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[Scoliosis Jones]

Prepare yourselves for when Challenger Pack 5 is the most hype newcomer of all!

GOOIGI.

 

[CannonStreak]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

Something like this?

Or this?

Or this?

Personally, I would want this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpBVlZzHTt0

 

[SnakeFighter64]

There's like no dialogue at all. A bit pre-battle banter and some ending cutscene but the games are very light on plot.

aren't they SHMUPs? How is there "Pre-Battle Dialogue"?

 

[Lamperouge]

There! You happy now?!!!

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You better rock that **** everywhere you go.

 

[Cosmic77]

We also got Ridley, aka "Captain America" as Japan put it.

You kinda assume that we're the target demographic.

We're not. Nintendo may treat us better than other Japanese companies treat their West playerbase, but if you held a gun to their head, they'd always put Japan first.

If Nintendo is a business that looks at everything in terms of, "What will make us a profit?", then the West is absolutely the target audience when it comes to Smash. That's part of the reason Iwata begged Sakurai to make not only Smash Wii U/3DS, but also Ultimate. Nintendo knows how much it can drive sales for a console overseas.

Regardless, my orginal point about Reimu still stands. Nintendo could end up choosing her just for the heck of having another Japanese icon, but I really don't think that's what they had in mind with any of these characters. Aside from Banjo who was genuinely just an act of good will for the fanbase, every character in this pass has felt like a step toward something bigger, like an attempt to get Persona on Nintendo consoles or aiding SE promote their latest DQ game - a series that historically does best on Nintendo consoles.

 

[Idon]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

Something like this?

Or this?

Or this?

Personally, I would want this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpBVlZzHTt0

The Persona animes and movies have some banger tunes, despite some of them being of... questionable quality.
My favorite has to be P3's final movie which really does feel like the ULTIMATE version of the song "Burn My Bread".

Not going to go for the embed because I don't wanna inconvenience users who have trouble loading them.

 

[Cosmic77]

Allright, may as well start a discussion because mah thread slow:
What's your opinion on Ring Fit Adventure so far?
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I can unironically say that I want the RFA trainer as a character in Smash.

The game looks fun though. Might pick it up in the holiday season when I need to burn some calories the most.

Prepare yourselves for when Challenger Pack 5 is the most hype newcomer of all!

GOOIGI.

You joke, but I'd actually be down with that. It'd give us an opportunity to get a Luigi who does more with the Poltergust.

Or he could just be an alt added for free. Gooigi could work as a number of different things.

 

[Wademan94]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

Something like this?

Or this?

Or this?

Personally, I would want this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpBVlZzHTt0

The Pokémon theme deserves to be the first in that category, it’s so iconic to the series as a whole.

 

[Lamperouge]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

I feel like this song deserves a place among the other legendary tracks included in Smash:

Spoiler: Warning! Banger alert!

 

[Wario Bros.]

Allright, may as well start a discussion because mah thread slow:
What's your opinion on Ring Fit Adventure so far?
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Tried it at a friend's house last night.

The minigames are really fun.

The adventure mode reminded me that I am out of shape...

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Okay. So since all the Awakening characters have their own unique victory theme, and since Corrin has his own, and since any Three Houses character will probably have it's own victory theme as well, can Roy and Ike get unique victory themes based on their own games too?

 

[Knight Dude]

EVO Grand Finals, Pokemon Stadium 2 It's quiet, and then.....

"I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST....LIKE NO ONE EVER WAAAAS!"

But for other songs, if we can get Electronic Communication and Wild FANG from MM8 and MMX8. That'd be clean too.

And the Character Select Rap from 3rd Strike too.

 

[Rangez]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

Can't forget about this little classic:

 

[Alternis]

Honestly, for the first indie character in Smash, Reimu is the most sensible choice, imo.

At this point, maybe I'll finally play a Touhou game, lol.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Prepare yourselves for when Challenger Pack 5 is the most hype newcomer of all!

GOOIGI.

They'd never put Gooigi in as DLC, he'd just be a clone of Mario.

 

[Idon]

Okay. So since all the Awakening characters have their own unique victory theme, and since Corrin has his own, and since any Three Houses character will probably have it's own victory theme as well, can Roy and Ike get unique victory themes based on their own games too?

Yes, Jesus Christ, I've been asking for this for so long.

I think it's incredibly biased to give Corrin and Robin brand new victory theme songs and not do the same for Roy and Ike, especially when Roy's canonical "Victory theme song" is already in the game.

 

[Shroob]

aren't they SHMUPs? How is there "Pre-Battle Dialogue"?

I mean, the bosses are characters.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Allright, may as well start a discussion because mah thread slow:
What's your opinion on Ring Fit Adventure so far?
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HOLLUP, THAT GAME'S ALREADY OUT?!

NINTENDO, WHY MUST YOU BE SO BAD AT MARKETING ANYTHING THAT ISN'T MARIO, ZELDA, OR SMASH?!

THIS IS WHY YOUR FRANCHISE STARTERS TEND TO FLOP!

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, for the first indie character in Smash, Reimu is the most sensible choice, imo.

At this point, maybe I'll finally play a Touhou game, lol.

Sensible? Nah I beg to differ, honestly.
While I hate to admit this, considering Toby Fox's ties to Nintendo via Gamefreak, seems pretty likely(to me at least) that an Undertale character(s, possibly?) would be more sensible than Obscure Waifu-bullet hell over here.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I mean, the bosses are characters.

Oh. I guess that makes sense. Text or VA?

 

[Zinith]

You better rock that **** everywhere you go.

If I am caught wearing that, it'll be with a despondent Sound of Silence stare

 

[Idon]

Oh. I guess that makes sense. Text or VA?

Considering Touhou has the budget of 3 stale graham crackers, it's safe to assume it's all text.

 

[Lamperouge]

Honestly, for the first indie character in Smash, Reimu is the most sensible choice, imo.

*cries in Shantae*

 

[Kirby Dragons]

About music, if Smash had music from video game TV shows, like those starring characters in the game playable already, what would you want?

The second opening of the Kirby anime was fire.

Spoiler

Same with the first Hoenn opening.

Spoiler

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Considering Touhou has the budget of 3 stale graham crackers, it's safe to assume it's all text.

So since it's all text, and there's so little of it, it would be incredibly easy to quick localize a handful of them and plunk em on the eshop so western players can get the full experience.

 

[BlueMonk]

HOLLUP, THAT GAME'S ALREADY OUT?!

NINTENDO, WHY MUST YOU BE SO BAD AT MARKETING ANYTHING THAT ISN'T MARIO, ZELDA, OR SMASH?!

THIS IS WHY YOUR NEW FRANCHISES TEND TO FLOP!

tbf not many people would be getting this anyways

 

[Shroob]

If Nintendo is a business that looks at everything in terms of, "What will make us a profit?", then the West is absolutely the target audience when it comes to Smash. That's part of the reason Iwata begged Sakurai to make not only Smash Wii U/3DS, but also Ultimate. Nintendo knows how much it can drive sales for a console overseas.

Regardless, my orginal point about Reimu still stands. Nintendo could end up choosing her just for the heck of having another Japanese icon, but I really don't think that's what they had in mind with any of these characters. Aside from Banjo who was genuinely just an act of good will for the fanbase, every character in this pass has felt like a step toward something bigger, like an attempt to get Persona on Nintendo consoles or aiding SE promote their latest DQ game - a series that historically does best on Nintendo consoles.

It absolutely can.

But I view this completely differently.


Again, I don't even think Reimu's in(The Fighter's Pass at least, seperate DLC is a whole different ballgame), but I'm not willing to shoot down something 'just because I don't think it's likely/makes sense."


It's fine to be cautious in speculation, but where's the fun if you doubt everything that you see 100% without even trying to dig a bit deeper? Closing yourself off to new ideas is 'the' fun part of speculation. Terry, Joker and Hero were NOT on my radar when it came to DLC predictions, and there's still a handful of characters I'd have more, but the 'fun', at least to me, doesn't come from seeing them, it's the discussion around them and the build up to their potential reveals.


You might want a character "Because this is a character I want"

I want characters "Because it'd make their underdog fanbases happy"



Like I said before many times, Ultimate was already 'perfect', so ANY DLC we got was icing on the cake to me. To try to stomp on someone's most wanted just because you don't see them as likely just sucks the fun out of speculation and ngl it's a reason I kinda dread seeing you post here at times.

 

[Alternis]

Sensible? Nah I beg to differ, honestly.
While I hate to admit this, considering Toby Fox's ties to Nintendo via Gamefreak, seems pretty likely(to me at least) that an Undertale character(s, possibly?) would be more sensible than Obscure Waifu-bullet hell over here.

It's sensible because Touhou has been around for 20 years, and one man has been making each major installment. And the amount of fan content it's gotten is staggering. It's a quintessential indie game, ergo, it makes sense as the first indie fighter.

 

[Raxxel]

tbf not many people would be getting this anyways

Wasn't Wii Fit a massive success? I feel like that would be an odd assumption of Nintendo to make if that was the case.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

What do you think is likely to be Terry's victory theme?

 

[Deleted member]

It's sensible because Touhou has been around for 20 years, and one man has been making each major installment. And the amount of fan content it's gotten is staggering. It's a quintessential indie game, ergo, it makes sense as the first indie fighter.

Again, I beg to differ.
The fact that it's so old doesn't mean it sensible, in fact I think it actually makes the idea worse!(and don't even get me started on the obscurity)

 

[RandomAce]

I’m pretty meh on Reimu.

I’ll admit that it has a large influence in Japan with a large legacy and could introduce a new franchise and group to Smash, and it would be kinda funny to see Reimu sending a barrage of bullets on the battlefield

However, I feel Touhou’s obscurity at least here is pretty offputting. It’s not like Hero or Terry where Dragon Quest and SNK had at least a bit of notoriety in other regions that makes introducing them more appealing. From what I’m aware, Touhou is obscure around here and is almost entirely Japanese based.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say that they are the worst per @Cosmic77’s opinion. I’m pretty sure Reimu would still do well and at least have place remembered in Smash history, but I feel her obscurity is on a different level here, and it’s why I personally wouldn’t be much of a fan.

 

[Idon]

So since it's all text, and there's so little of it, it would be incredibly easy to quick localize a handful of them and plunk em on the eshop so western players can get the full experience.

Yup.

Which is what many many fan translators have been doing for about 2 decades now.

 

[BlueMonk]

Wasn't Wii Fit a massive success? I feel like that would be an odd assumption of Nintendo to make if that was the case.

yeah but RFA probably isn't something that they want to do a big marketing drive over

the target audience probably wouldn't even see the marketing

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Yup.

Which is what many many fan translators have been doing for about 2 decades now.

That's not official though.

I'm sorry, but any time I see an unlicenced fan game I'm nervous about engaging with it because it's a violation of copyright law. Fangames are against the law, even if the creator is chill with it.

 

[Deleted member]

tfw you start a debate that goes on for multiple pages, but you don't care about the subject at all:

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

Ah man, a tornado touchdown in my area again. I’m getting into sheltered room now. I’ll be fine but still a bit nervous.

 

[Cosmic77]

I’m pretty meh on Reimu.

I’ll admit that it has a large influence in Japan with a large legacy and could introduce a new franchise and group to Smash, and it would be kinda funny to see Reimu sending a barrage of bullets on the battlefield

However, I feel Touhou’s obscurity at least here is pretty offputting. It’s not like Hero or Terry where Dragon Quest and SNK had at least a bit in other regions that makes introducing them more appealing. From what I’m aware, Touhou is obscure around here and is almost entirely Japanese based.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say that they are the worst per @Cosmic77’s opinion. I’m pretty sure Reimu would still do well and at least be remembered considering in Smash history, but I feel her obscurity is on a different level here.

If you don't mind me asking, who would you consider to be the worst DLC character if it's not Reimu (If she actually got in)?

I'm asking assuming you can order them from most to least favorite, not just saying that they're all your favorite or something similar to that.

 

[Deleted member]

We all know the definitive videogame show song to add in Smash:

 

[Shroob]

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