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[Guybrush20X6]

Tim bringing up the caller's Togepi was pretty much the only sign that this was a Pokemon movie. That other guy saying "Let's catch 'em all" while holding up a Poke Ball could just pass as him just making a funny reference in a more realistic setting.

Also, did The Pokemon Company really allow them to make an alcohol reference? Granted they did allow some mild swearing in the movie.

I made list of all the somewhat PG-13 things that Detective Pikachu confirmed exist in the Pokemon world.

Spoiler: Just in case you haven't seen it yet

Insurance saleswork
Small towns losing youth to cities
Cancer
Climate Change
Drug Abuse
What TV Tropes diplomatically refers to as "a Date with Rosie Palms"
Listicles (Top Ten clickbait lists)
Unpaid internship
Underground fighting rings (Rhyme City exclusive)
Gasoline and with it, Arson
Serial Killers
Cartoonish Supervillainy of Dr. Colossus proportions.
Cusses
Tommy guns (via Angels with Filthy Souls)

 

[Deleted member]

Dat was lame

Agreed.

It’s just Tim talking. That’s it. lol

 

[Guynamednelson]

Cusses

Funny thing is, the use of "damn" in the movie can be justified by Pokemon media in Japan occasionally using it, from Surge saying it in the anime to an Incineroar card having an attack called "Goddamn Punch".

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Spoiler: Just in case you haven't seen it yet

Cancer
Drug Abuse
Serial Killers

Well, I certainly don't remember those.

 

[Cosmic77]

I made list of all the somewhat PG-13 thing that Detective Pikachu confirmed exist in the Pokemon world.

Spoiler: Just in case you haven't seen it yet

Insurance saleswork
Small towns losing youth to cities
Cancer
Climate Change
Drug Abuse
What TV Tropes diplomatically refers to as "a Date with Rosie Palms"
Listicles (Top Ten clickbait lists)
Unpaid internship
Underground fighting rings (Rhyme City exclusive)
Gasoline and with it, Arson
Serial Killers
Cartoonish Supervillainy of Dr. Colossus proportions.
Cusses
Tommy guns (via Angels with Filthy Souls)

Don't forget identity theft.

Spoiler

Mewtwo is still trying to recover from that.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Well, I certainly don't remember those.

A lot were hinted at in incidental dialogue.

Tim seeing Det. Pikachu's mountains of clues and red string. "This looks like a serial killer's place now!"
When the "big thing" happens at the end of act 2 "And people still thing climate change isn't happening!?"
And the detective show on the TV is actually the same fake movie from Home Alone that ends with the villain protagonists gunning someone down. "Keep the change ya filthy animal."

 

[Wario Bros.]

I made list of all the somewhat PG-13 thing that Detective Pikachu confirmed exist in the Pokemon world.

Spoiler: Just in case you haven't seen it yet

Insurance saleswork
Small towns losing youth to cities
Cancer
Climate Change
Drug Abuse
What TV Tropes diplomatically refers to as "a Date with Rosie Palms"
Listicles (Top Ten clickbait lists)
Unpaid internship
Underground fighting rings (Rhyme City exclusive)
Gasoline and with it, Arson
Serial Killers
Cartoonish Supervillainy of Dr. Colossus proportions.
Cusses
Tommy guns (via Angels with Filthy Souls)

All of that and I'm surprised that the Pokémon Company were okay giving Pikachu fart and pee jokes

Spoiler

as well as letting Tim say "Well, actually, I'm pretty good at being alone at night."

 

[Noipoi]

Throwback to when I thought I had a dog’s advanced sense of smell as a kid, when really I just didn’t like the smell of certain foods.

I was a dumb kid.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

All of that and I'm surprised that the Pokémon Company were okay giving Pikachu fart and pee jokes

Spoiler

as well as letting Tim say "Well, actually, I'm pretty good at being alone at night."

That's the 'what TV Tropes diplomatically refers to as "A Date with Rosie Palms".' I was referring to.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I made list of all the somewhat PG-13 things that Detective Pikachu confirmed exist in the Pokemon world.

Spoiler: Just in case you haven't seen it yet

Insurance saleswork
Small towns losing youth to cities
Cancer
Climate Change
Drug Abuse
What TV Tropes diplomatically refers to as "a Date with Rosie Palms"
Listicles (Top Ten clickbait lists)
Unpaid internship
Underground fighting rings (Rhyme City exclusive)
Gasoline and with it, Arson
Serial Killers
Cartoonish Supervillainy of Dr. Colossus proportions.
Cusses
Tommy guns (via Angels with Filthy Souls)

Ok you’re gonna have to tell me where they start talking about choking the chicken

EDIT; Nevermind I have been surpassed

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Man I can't get enough of this song. So catchy I can't stop listening to it.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Ok. Seriously. Why isn’t one of Pikachu’s alts Detective Pikachu? Smash Ultimate is great and all. But it has so many missed opportunities.

 

[Shroob]

I haven’t been on this thread in a while. But I haven’t been available much anyways. I had a sick kid and then I got sick. And now im preparing for a job interview. While also waiting patiently for Hero since my prediction of last week never came true.

Unrelated, I don’t know much about Arc System Works nor am I a huge fan of the whole anime aesthetic but I was watching some Granblue Fantasy Versus gameplay and, Man, they make good games. Which led me to think which Ninty or Ninty-related games would look in a ASW game.

My choices would be:
Mega Man
Fire Emblem
Pokemon
Zelda
Maybe Kid Icarus

I just don’t think the other series, even Xenoblade, could work well with it.

Wait......


What if the reboot to Smash after this game as an Arc Systems that goes all anime with Smash? Like....take all the things the studio is known for and just convert it into everything Smash is known for and combine them?

I really want this to happen now.

You have summoned the Eldritch God from it's slumber, what do you seek?

 

[PsySmasher]

Ok. Seriously. Why isn’t one of Pikachu’s alts Detective Pikachu? Smash Ultimate is great and all. But it has so many missed opportunities.

Tbh, they really don’t do much with alts in general.

Besides the returning alts, we got Builder/Wedding Mario, Crafted Yoshi, Pika Libre, Meta Ridley, Galacta/Dark Meta Knight... and that’s pretty much it.

Probably forgetting a few, but my point is that they don’t do much with alts and when they do, they get rid of some colors to keep it an even 8.

It’s kinda disappointing, but I can live with it.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

It's strange that alt costumes are mostly restricted to Miis. I can only assume it's a workload or an interface thing.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Tbh, they really don’t do much with alts in general.

Besides the returning alts, we got Builder/Wedding Mario, Crafted Yoshi, Pika Libre, Meta Ridley, Galacta/Dark Meta Knight... and that’s pretty much it.

Probably forgetting a few, but my point is that they don’t do much with alts and when they do, they get rid of some colors to keep it an even 8.

It’s kinda disappointing, but I can live with it.

I’ve said it before and i’ll Say it again. PSASBR did costumes better. Each character had 1-3 alt costumes and EACH ONE had 8 alt colors. Sakurai just drops the ball hard on costumes.

 

[TheMightyP]

Keep in mind that since Detective Pikachu says Hell, that means that at least the mere conecpt of Hell exists in the Pokemon universe, instead of the Distorted World Plantinum had.

Which means Heaven also is somewhere in there?

 

[Noipoi]

Keep in mind that since Detective Pikachu says Hell, that means that at least the mere conecpt of Hell exists in the Pokemon universe, instead of the Distorted World Plantinum had.

Which means Heaven also is somewhere in there?

Do people do bad **** so they can go to hell and catch Giratina?

 

[Deleted member]

Keep in mind that since Detective Pikachu says Hell, that means that at least the mere conecpt of Hell exists in the Pokemon universe, instead of the Distorted World Plantinum had.

Which means Heaven also is somewhere in there?

DO POKE-RELIGIONS EXIST?!

 

[Zinith]

How long do these AMAs last for each user?

 

[Deleted member]

How long do these AMAs last for each user?

Pretty sure a week or two? Don’t quote me on that.

 

[PsySmasher]

Keep in mind that since Detective Pikachu says Hell, that means that at least the mere conecpt of Hell exists in the Pokemon universe, instead of the Distorted World Plantinum had.

Which means Heaven also is somewhere in there?

I’ve given up on trying to understand Pokémon mythology long ago buddy.

It’s nowhere near as bad as trying to understand Pokémon pronunciations tho...

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

How long do these AMAs last for each user?

I believe they're stickied for about a week, though are open indefinitely

 

[TheMightyP]

DO POKE-RELIGIONS EXIST?!

Actually yes Gen 4 was filled with that.

I’ve given up on trying to understand Pokémon mythology long ago buddy.

It’s nowhere near as bad as trying to understand Pokémon pronunciations tho...

Remember, it's Ray-QAE-zah, not Ray-QUAH-zah.

Spoiler

It's still Ray-QUAH-zah to me, idk what anybody says

 

[ZephyrZ]

They've toned it down over the years but "adult" themes existed from Pokemon from the start. Gen 1 had bike gangs, casinos, and the mafia. Oh right, and Team Rocket murdered a Marowak.

Let's not forget about that lady who gives you the TM for Fling in Sun/Moon though. The one who's husband died in a vehicle / Ride Pokemon accident, who's Machamp refused to stay inside a pokeball since? Yeah.

Alcohol existing in that world isn't really that weird.

 

[Wario Bros.]

DO POKE-RELIGIONS EXIST?!

Well, Pikachu did say "Oh sweet mother of Arceus!"

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I’ve given up on trying to understand Pokémon mythology long ago buddy.

It’s nowhere near as bad as trying to understand Pokémon pronunciations tho...

Alrighty y'all, it's that time again

Is it Are-SEE-us, Are-KAY-us, or Are-KEY-us?

 

[Wario Bros.]

Alrighty y'all, it's that time again

Is it Are-SEE-us, Are-KAY-us, or Are-KEY-us?

The third one is the correct one.

 

[Zinith]

I believe they're stickied for about a week, though are open indefinitely

That means I have 5 more days to shill

 

[Wario Bros.]

For pronunciation of the first 5 generations I use Pokédex 3D Pro.

I've been on my own for 6-8.

 

[PsySmasher]

Alrighty y'all, it's that time again

Is it Are-SEE-us, Are-KAY-us, or Are-KEY-us?

I personally pronounce it the 1st way, but I’m fine with people who say it the 3rd way too.

If you say it the 2nd way... you’re dead to me.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

The third one is the correct one.

Congratulations! You've passed the test with flying colors!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I’ve said it before and i’ll Say it again. PSASBR did costumes better. Each character had 1-3 alt costumes and EACH ONE had 8 alt colors. Sakurai just drops the ball hard on costumes.

Sakurai can't do any costume he entirely wants. It's not a coincidence that Cloud has barely two different costumes overall. Square-Enix controls his image too.

Reality is the owners of the IP can be super picky. While the idea of Sakurai not trying very hard with some characters is plausible, Pokemon and the 3rd Parties are from far more controlling companies. We were lucky ones like MegaMan got some good costumes(it helps that Capcom has given MegaMan multiple different colors in multiple games, so it's just one of those few good times we'll get). The Pokemon Company has a lot of control over Pokemon. They're the reason we didn't get voices in Super Mario Maker for the Pokemon. I find that a lot more silly than the Smash context, where it's not just a few animations and a unique sprite. There's Pokeball Pokemon, the exact artwork used for the spirits, where the model came from in previous games, artwork for the stickers, etc. It's a lot more to look at. Hell, it could be why Pikachu and Jigglypuff didn't get a unique description in Smash 64 and used their literal Pokedex entry. Of course, that could also be a fun Sakurai thing he did as a joke since it's technically an official profile for any Pokemon in-game.

Not saying that PSASBR didn't do them better. They did. But Sakurai didn't drop the ball, really. It's an unfair situation. Hell, the fact PSASBR got a ton of good costumes is a miracle in itself.

 

[Cosmic77]

Sakurai can't do any costume he entirely wants. It's not a coincidence that Cloud has barely two different costumes overall. Square-Enix controls his image too.

Reality is the owners of the IP can be super picky. While the idea of Sakurai not trying very hard with some characters is plausible, Pokemon and the 3rd Parties are from far more controlling companies. We were lucky ones like MegaMan got some good costumes(it helps that Capcom has given MegaMan multiple different colors in multiple games, so it's just one of those few good times we'll get). The Pokemon Company has a lot of control over Pokemon. They're the reason we didn't get voices in Super Mario Maker for the Pokemon. I find that a lot more silly than the Smash context, where it's not just a few animations and a unique sprite. There's Pokeball Pokemon, the exact artwork used for the spirits, where the model came from in previous games, artwork for the stickers, etc. It's a lot more to look at. Hell, it could be why Pikachu and Jigglypuff didn't get a unique description in Smash 64 and used their literal Pokedex entry. Of course, that could also be a fun Sakurai thing he did as a joke since it's technically an official profile for any Pokemon in-game.

The Pokemon Company is just so weird sometimes. They hesitate to give the Smash Pokemon voices in Mario Maker, but the three starter Pokemon get voices and special Pokemon jingles.

 

[Wademan94]

I’ve said it before and i’ll Say it again. PSASBR did costumes better. Each character had 1-3 alt costumes and EACH ONE had 8 alt colors. Sakurai just drops the ball hard on costumes.

Keep in mind that Ultimate has over 3 times the roster All-Stars had, coming up with costumes for every character, especially since quite a few of these characters don’t have many options for costumes to begin with and some companies they work with have stricter guidelines on how their characters represented, isn’t an easy feat.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Anyone wanna hop into an online party in A Hat in Time?

 

[Zinith]

Still up for those stragglers that have yet to ask me anything

 

[CosmicQuark]

Sakurai can't do any costume he entirely wants. It's not a coincidence that Cloud has barely two different costumes overall. Square-Enix controls his image too.

Reality is the owners of the IP can be super picky. While the idea of Sakurai not trying very hard with some characters is plausible, Pokemon and the 3rd Parties are from far more controlling companies. We were lucky ones like MegaMan got some good costumes(it helps that Capcom has given MegaMan multiple different colors in multiple games, so it's just one of those few good times we'll get). The Pokemon Company has a lot of control over Pokemon. They're the reason we didn't get voices in Super Mario Maker for the Pokemon. I find that a lot more silly than the Smash context, where it's not just a few animations and a unique sprite. There's Pokeball Pokemon, the exact artwork used for the spirits, where the model came from in previous games, artwork for the stickers, etc. It's a lot more to look at. Hell, it could be why Pikachu and Jigglypuff didn't get a unique description in Smash 64 and used their literal Pokedex entry. Of course, that could also be a fun Sakurai thing he did as a joke since it's technically an official profile for any Pokemon in-game.

And let's not forget PASBR had 24 characters--Ultimate has over 70. I will say there are some--strange decisions. Why remove the Fire Mario alt color, when you can remove his Waluigi one? It fits Luigi more to have a Waluigi alt. Or get rid of Wario, since Wario's in the actual game. Little things like that are weird. Also, I would have much preferred Mega Man having alternate outfits of those in his final Smash, like EXE and Volnutt. I tend to care less about alt colors more than alt costumes to the point where I never use alt colors. It is, however, harder when it comes to third parties. Sega really dropped the ball with Sonic's alts--would have been nice if he could be the color of his friends (yellow, black, pink, purple) and have their shoe designs. And I try to avoid using the Random button to avoid getting alt colors (some look absolutely hideous), and instead use a random number generator. But I do play Lemmy, rather than Bowser Jr, Shirtless Shulk, and do plan on playing Three and Eight, rather than Hero's default. I like the variety alt costumes provide more than alt colors.

As it is, I don't think the number of alt costumes/colors is the problem--more the decisions made, some by Sakurai, and others that are out of his control, restrained by second/third party restrictions.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Keep in mind that Ultimate has over 3 times the roster All-Stars had, coming up with costumes for every character, especially since quite a few of these characters don’t have many options for costumes to begin with and some companies they work with have stricter guidelines on how their characters represented, isn’t an easy feat.

I know it’s not easy. And with a roster this size and a dev period so small I guess I don’t have any right to complain. It’s just that Sakurai kind of has a reputation for going all out.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I know it’s not easy. And with a roster this size and a dev period so small I guess I don’t have any right to complain. It’s just that Sakurai kind of has a reputation for going all out.

In some cases, whether to go all out or not isn't his decision.