ssbbFICTION
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No i get that there a videos of players beating players. I still think that marth wins the matchup though.
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The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
w h y
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
yeah. like i love matchups and tier lists as much as the next guy, but all it really comes down to is it fine or not. also included is hard (but fine.)
GSUB
Smash Lord
falcon beats marth on-stage
marth beats falcon off-stage
Marth and Falcon both start on-stage though, giving Falcon the advantage.
marth beats falcon off-stage
Marth and Falcon both start on-stage though, giving Falcon the advantage.
TheZhuKeeper
Smash Champion
Marth > Falcon imo
Lovage
Smash Hero
ya marth ***** falcon
at low levels its prolly falcons favor
once marth learns to DI its even
once marth learns to recover perfectly and gimp perfectly its marths favor
this is ********
at low levels its prolly falcons favor
once marth learns to DI its even
once marth learns to recover perfectly and gimp perfectly its marths favor
this is ********
KikoMePlease
Smash Journeyman
marth beats falcon because im gay
emerican
Smash Ace
agreed with johnny.. personally i'd rather play as marth against falcon than falcon against marth
hahahahaha.its pretty hard to play an entire game without getting knocked off stage regardless of where you start
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Falcon beats Marth on Dreamland,FD, any counter-pick stage. Marth gets fuked on Rainbow Cruise
Even~ on Battlefield
Disadvantage/gay on Yoshis and Fountain
Not really that bad of a matchup but Marth isn't very approachable and camping Marth back is boring. I think optimally Marth can just sit back and smack Falcon away everytime he approaches and can just sit there and Falcon can't do anything. Most Marths don't do this or they mess up/get outplayed though since most marths suck
Combos only work if opponent fuks up DI-ing (not DI-ing down and away)
least favorite matchup cuz it has potential to be gayyy
Even~ on Battlefield
Disadvantage/gay on Yoshis and Fountain
Not really that bad of a matchup but Marth isn't very approachable and camping Marth back is boring. I think optimally Marth can just sit back and smack Falcon away everytime he approaches and can just sit there and Falcon can't do anything. Most Marths don't do this or they mess up/get outplayed though since most marths suck
Combos only work if opponent fuks up DI-ing (not DI-ing down and away)
least favorite matchup cuz it has potential to be gayyy
practice_mAn
Smash Journeyman
marth vs falcon is a cool match up, i always liked it
up throw knee at a certain percent and if you mistime it they can jump out lol
up throw knee at a certain percent and if you mistime it they can jump out lol
KILLA.FOR.CASH.
Smash Champion
helll no marth ***** falcon on battlefield son!!
actually marth ***** falcon anywhere and everywhere except for dreamland and all those other gay stages
actually marth ***** falcon anywhere and everywhere except for dreamland and all those other gay stages
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
kiko do u go to chapman?
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
Yeah but so can everyone else, and his lack of ability to outright kill at med-high percent is magnified on that stage.
KikoMePlease
Smash Journeyman
Naw, I go to Arcadia High School ;P
home of the Arcadians?
Larry vs Remen 2
Larry ur sooooo good
this is one example of why stocks dont matter in a game.. larry ***** him but it was close
this is why we tell noobs to not be like, "I only got 1 stocked by SS!"
Larry ur sooooo good
this is one example of why stocks dont matter in a game.. larry ***** him but it was close
this is why we tell noobs to not be like, "I only got 1 stocked by SS!"
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
imagine kouryuu yelling louder and louder in that post. pretty hilarious.
KikoMePlease
Smash Journeyman
Connor when are we gonna play HoN you *****!?
Adam M!
Smash Lord
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kouryuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ur taking my spot on the rankings, the obligatory "this guy aint good enuff to be ranked but thurr aint no one else whos done ****"
marth can always gimp falcon/sheik/fox/falco at any time, knawmsayin. even peach if ur m2k.
ur taking my spot on the rankings, the obligatory "this guy aint good enuff to be ranked but thurr aint no one else whos done ****"
i think marf that dis well lives better than any character in the game except for MAYBE peach (id STILL pick marf cuz im ******) cuz hes floaty wit priority.
marth can always gimp falcon/sheik/fox/falco at any time, knawmsayin. even peach if ur m2k.
MacD
Banned via Administration
adam was the one who told me that in marth vs peach, marth lives longer
we all had a good chuckle after that one
we all had a good chuckle after that one
Larry ***** him =D
especially cause Remen is a top fox in Europe and Larry is our unknown secret weapon
also must i really explain why you're ranked? you went to two tournaments, i'm sure you remember all your matches
Kouryuu
Smash Champion
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C'mon Mccain, use your head.
If the Marth's spacing is on point, what little hits Peach is going to squeeze in isn't going to kill him any time soon. Coupled with good DI, Marth is going to live longer. Not much Peach can do about it. When Peach is living longer than Marth, it usually means the Marth is ****ing up hard.
Marth is definitely the hardest character for Peach to hit.
Nah, Larry didn't **** him.
Out of curiosity, how reluctant was the PR to put me on the rankings? I mean, I suck lol.
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
Marth isn't terribly hard to edgeguard though; once he loses his jump, if you bait the fair or airdodge coming down, or force him to up B onto the stage, he's done or at least taking more damage and is most likely off the stage still. And aside from a tipper and utilt, which aren't the easiest things to land, Peach will kill faster. You can survive a non-tipped fsmash on DL64 at like 170%. Peach nair will kill 20-30% before that. Not to mention that on DL64 especially, you can just recover high against him all day. Marth can't really do that; he has to win the priority battle back to the stage, and while he has really good priority, he's much more predictable in the air coming back than he is on the stage.
Adam M!
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marth is hard to edge guard cuz he can always make the corner of the stage or sweetspot the ledge in a multitude of ways. because you always have to be on the lookout for the latter he can get on the stage when you totally cover that and just take the hit, DI it and come back close enough to the stage to return safely.
and marth can tip peach via grab until ~90% with good high, and higher w/ bad. peach nair won't kill til like 150-160% and marth can tech platforms w/o peach able to follow up effectively.
spacing dog. if marth keeps his spacing in the air fair, dair, nair or forward b outprioritize anything you can do.
and marth can tip peach via grab until ~90% with good high, and higher w/ bad. peach nair won't kill til like 150-160% and marth can tech platforms w/o peach able to follow up effectively.
spacing dog. if marth keeps his spacing in the air fair, dair, nair or forward b outprioritize anything you can do.
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
Yeah of course Marth has the spacing advantage, but he needs to because if he loses it, he's in more trouble than other characters, especially compared to Peach. Marth on the ground has tons of mobility and unpredictability. Marth returning to the stage in the air doesn't, he just has to hope his fair (or whatever) hits. And if Marth doesn't get those tip kills or edgeguards before high %, it's just going to be a battle of attrition, which Peach is much better at. I still don't think Peach wins vs Marth on DL64 but I definitely think it's Marth's worst neutral against her.
Kouryuu and I aren't "top level"
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
step up ya game then
MacD
Banned via Administration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm8KUKEE5Rk
armada loses first stock at 188, m2k loses first stock at 187
armada loses 2nd stock at 178 (tippered), m2k dies at 113 because of edge guarding
armada dies from tipper at 136, m2k dies at 130 cause of some (i think surprising) WC DI
armada has 177 last stock and m2k is a noob and dies at 92 from dash attack
granted that is only one match on FD but still
armada loses first stock at 188, m2k loses first stock at 187
armada loses 2nd stock at 178 (tippered), m2k dies at 113 because of edge guarding
armada dies from tipper at 136, m2k dies at 130 cause of some (i think surprising) WC DI
armada has 177 last stock and m2k is a noob and dies at 92 from dash attack
granted that is only one match on FD but still
Lovage
Smash Hero
i would be interested in an aggregate percent for every character (in every matchup) for when they die. like someone would go thru every tournament match in the last year and average out all the percents when people die. so you could say, fox dies at an average of 113 against falco or something.
that would be cool
that would be cool