So? sheik is #1 again...

[soap]

she hasnt won too many tournies so im wondering what the backroom was talking about... i feel like the Kdj dominance from a year ago was probably a big deal.

i also agree that she is the best when played right, fox style lagless moves+ marth sword length bair+ needles= 222good

 

[soap]

lol, nvm... souroush's list tricked me, it seemed so official..... anyways she has always been at least top 3 in every list compiled so i guess it doesnt really matter the exact number placement... she is top tier

 

[otg]

Dunno, m2k and a few others think she is #1, although I would think Fox is truly there as well at the end of the day.

 

[Zodiac]

The new list will in all likley hood either be

Top
Fox
Falco
Marth
Sheik

Or

Top
Fox
Falco
Sheik
Marth

 

[KirbyKaze]

sheik is weird because only m2k atm plays her at very top level and, aside from there being no vids of it, he likes playing marth more even though he says his sheik, fox, and marth are all about the same.

for good active players we're in a weird spot... nobody's playing her as a main or anything. when kdj was around we had him, i guess, and drephen consistently does well but he doesn't win major stuff either which sucks because i love drephen.

in any event... falco is probably fourth; most people seem to agree on this, or rather, most credible people (there are exceptions, of course). the top three thereafter are sort of debatable depending on what you define a tier list as and how much you weight tournament success (in which case, marth would be first). if you go by just objectively who appears to be the best character (for human capacity) it's probably sheik. if you go by total potential then it's fox.

it all depends.

 

[mecatomato]

fox style lagless moves+ marth sword length bair+ needles= 222good

sadly.
Sheik's Bair < Marth's Grab range or Dtilt

T-T
hating marths



*Edit*

I agree to Zodiac.

I've never thought that sheik is the highest tier.
true that she counters a lot of characters

BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
sheik gets COUNTERED BY THEM. so... yeah..
Zodiac seems to be right for the first 'top tier list' he wrote.

 

[Vro]

Sheik really is only countered by IC's, and who really plays them?

 

[Winston]

Sheik really is only countered by IC's, and who really plays them?

It's not really a counter; it was a counter back in 2005.

 

[KirbyKaze]

ics is at least even if not in sheik's favour.

try spacing aerials and needles and not doing easily cced tilts/d-smash and you'll find ics become easier.

 

[ADHD]

Icys aren't that hard on platform stages right?

I know it's captain jack, but he beat an ice climber player on FD

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

sheik is weird because only m2k atm plays her at very top level

Amsah......

 

[NJzFinest]

Captain Jack? lol

 

[soap]

amsah doesnt affect our tier list, neither does CJ

 

[S0FT]

Most people who win tournaments use multiple characters, I think its really hard to win a tournament with just one character. Alot of the top players, KDJ, M2K, KEN, use a combination of fox and Marth.

 

[NJzFinest]

KDJ pretty much only used Marth against Chu Dat.

 

[otg]

Sheik is very good at separating Icies, and can gimp Nana free. Think about the matchup if Sheik never gets grabbed, than think about top Level Sheik's never allowing Icies to get grabs in, now think about how screwed the Ice Climbers are.

/thread

 

[KirbyKaze]

Amsah......

I forgot.

@ NJzFinest - Marth beats IC considerably harder than Sheik does and there's no 0-death chain grab crap either, which means that when Marth makes a slight mistake he doesn't have a 70% cg waiting for him. He probably picked Marth because Marth's the safer pick.

 

[Deleted member]

the SBR never produced a melee tier list this year.

Zelda beats ICs much harder than marth ever could.

 

[-Marc-]

Drephen plays at the top level. >_>

 

[Brainjack]

sheik pisses ppl off making her top tier maybe even first

 

[DtJ Jungle]

no one likes shiek. shes homo

 

[ss118]

the SBR never produced a melee tier list this year.

Zelda beats ICs much harder than marth ever could.

normally I would just quote you because your awesome like that, but also I want to point out how completely correct this statement is.

It's not even funny! Bair just adds lag onto shield if they do manage to block it, but Nana's lag usually means that she gets owned and **** like that.

 

[NJzFinest]

@ NJzFinest - Marth beats IC considerably harder than Sheik does and there's no 0-death chain grab crap either, which means that when Marth makes a slight mistake he doesn't have a 70% cg waiting for him. He probably picked Marth because Marth's the safer pick.

I'm well aware. I only stated that since KDJ otherwise wouldn't normally use Marth. The person I quoted made it seem as if Marth was a common character for KDJ to use.

 

[KirbyKaze]

i see.

i feel dumb LOL.

 

[$ick]

lol, nvm... souroush's list tricked me, it seemed so official..... anyways she has always been at least top 3 in every list compiled so i guess it doesnt really matter the exact number placement... she is top tier

Lol man that was funny. Get raaaaped.