So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[Sieguest]

Oh neato! That makes things convenient! :D

 

[Myollnir]

I posted my set against Glutonny in the video thread

 

[Mr. game and watch]

mink are you in florida? or like mobile alabama?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Mink is in Orlando, Florida.

 

[Exdeath]

ugh fine
Beloved Floridians, i will be in Pensacola in mid july for a week, so if you would ever so kindly have a tourney then, or we could meet up and brawl, thatd be great :D
how was that?

No.

Spoiler

Nononono.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Esam's got my back.
/bronies

and I live in Orlando.
Though if you're ever near Cloudsdale i'm around there too.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

So much RPing Mink @_@ I acted like that before I had Trixie as my avatar.

 

[Roller]

Yo Mink, I'm actually in Equestria right now. Lemme know when a good time would be to take one of my flying contraptions up to see you!

 

[Sieguest]

Wonder if MLP is going to make any college students switch their major to Equine Science. x.x

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Yo roller swing by. When you get to the weather factory take a right. You cant miss my house, purple roof.

I'll be waiting.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

Wonder if MLP is going to make any college students switch their major to Equine Science. x.x

i hope it falls off a cliff but alas i know that wont happen

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Haha I could definantly see mink with a purple roof. I like your pony choice mink, I haven't started the series yet but I'm likin the looms of the cowgirl one

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

She sure has a southern drawl.
You should get watchin'.

The season finale's almost here.

 

[DeLux]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302248

I didn't mean to make the thread originally, but the double post sort of made it happen. Sorry to tease you guys, but if I had time I would have gotten it out earlier

Enjoy people

 

[Mr. game and watch]

xD i wanna start it! i probably will soon!

 

[Roller]

Excellent .

 

[DeLux]

What? So confused

 

[Mr. game and watch]

De, do you 2nd lucas?
i do really good with people, and havent looked at his meeta game or AT's once xD

 

[DeLux]

I main Lucas. I secondary ICs.

Spoiler

since like a week ago

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Ahhhhhhh mk! I like Lucas for his sffling

 

[DeLux]

Oh dear God, dare I ask what is sffling?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Sffling is winning.

 

[Hylian]

shffling is a melee term that cant apply to any character in brawl.

short hop fast falled lcanceled attack

 

[DeLux]

Confused. Lucas is not in melee?

 

[Exdeath]

MK has a pseudo SHFFL with Uair.

 

[Hylian]

No he doesn't.

 

[DeLux]

So if that's the case, then what is mr. game and watch talking about?

 

[Hylian]

Probably lucas hopping around with nair.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

im talking about short hop fast falling dair, nair, bair, and nair, with any and every character in brawl?
uhhh.... well the fast fall isnt that important to it, but i get the fast falls in on my short hop aeriels. i SERIOUSLY doubt im the only person on brawl who does this.

 

[Exdeath]

No he doesn't.

Yes he does. Uair can be buffered into an air dodge so that it has less lag than landing normally. Same natural input, similar -- if not the same -- effect, but different mechanics.

UAIR
frame breakdown:
1 startup
2-3 hitbox out
4-13 aerial cooldown

frame summary:
Hits on: 2
IASA frame: 14
Aerial cooldown: 10
Landing lag: 12
Autocancels on: 21
Shield hitlag differential: 0
Shield stun: 2
Optimal shield advantage: -10
Optimal shield drop advantage: -3

 

[Sieguest]

im talking about short hop fast falling dair, nair, bair, and nair, with any and every character in brawl?
uhhh.... well the fast fall isnt that important to it, but i get the fast falls in on my short hop aeriels. i SERIOUSLY doubt im the only person on brawl who does this.

It's not a smart thing to do with all of your aerials. If you hit the ground before the autocancel frames on any aerial then you'll experience aerial landing lag. Best example I know is Ganondorf's fair.

Yes he does. Uair can be buffered into an air dodge so that it has less lag than landing normally. Same natural input, similar -- if not the same -- effect, but different mechanics.

By normally I hope you mean "without aerial landing lag" (or whatever the term is for it). Landing with an air dodge will still cause a character to experience soft/hard landing lag.

 

[Exdeath]

It's not a smart thing to do with all of your aerials. If you hit the ground before the autocancel frames on any aerial then you'll experience aerial landing lag. Best example I know is Ganondorf's fair.



By normally I hope you mean "without aerial landing lag" (or whatever the term is for it). Landing with an air dodge will still cause a character to experience soft/hard landing lag.

Reduced landing lag. In other words, 5 frames instead of 12. IIRC, L canceling would reduce lag by down to a minimum of 5 frames.

 

[Hylian]

im talking about short hop fast falling dair, nair, bair, and nair, with any and every character in brawl?
uhhh.... well the fast fall isnt that important to it, but i get the fast falls in on my short hop aeriels. i SERIOUSLY doubt im the only person on brawl who does this.

You can't l-cancel in brawl, that was my point so shffling doesn't exist. Fast falling isn't usually very good from short hops either because you won't autocancel.

Yes he does. Uair can be buffered into an air dodge so that it has less lag than landing normally. Same natural input, similar -- if not the same -- effect, but different mechanics.

And where exactly is the fast fall? You can't fast fall uair into airdodge so you can't shuffl.

 

[Exdeath]

And where exactly is the fast fall? You can't fast fall uair into airdodge so you can't shuffl.

I really hope that you aren't serious.

 

[Hylian]

Why? Do you understand shffling in melee? At the peak of your short hop you use a move and fastfall it then l-cancel to apply pressure/combo. MK cannot do this into an AD from the peak of his SH he will hit the ground from fast falling.

 

[Sieguest]

And where exactly is the fast fall? You can't fast fall uair into airdodge so you can't shuffl.

The fastfall occurs just after the apex of the short hop. You can buffer an airdodge and fastfall. I've actually just done it quite a few times in training mode just now. Actually, I'm going to rescind that statement. I've been FFing with the airdodge.

I really hope that you aren't serious.

Wtf I quoted the wrong post (I wanted to quote the post where you put the frame difference). But okay, I was just making sure I wan't missing anything here. xD

 

[Exdeath]

I'm pretty sure that you can air dodge before you land with a FFUair...

 

[Sieguest]

Well, to be technical, you can't FF the uair and buffer the airdodge before you land (You cut it close just trying to do that with a full hop). What you can do is perform a Uair just as MK starts falling from the top of his short and then buffer an FFairdodge.

 

[Hylian]

Well, to be technical, you can't FF the uair and buffer the airdodge before you land (You cut it close just trying to do that with a full hop). What you can do is perform a Uair just as MK starts falling from the top of his short and then buffer an FFairdodge.

But the whole point is to fast fall the aerial lol, fast falling the airdodge isn't shffling especially considering there is no airdodge in shffling lol you don't fast fall an l-cancel...

Edit: This argument is stupid lol.

 

[Smoom77]

Let's get this straight.

Shffling does NOT exist in brawl.

>_>