So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[SAX]

its not trolling if you do it every day in your life and im not responding to it..
yea i talk type like a baby atleast i dont drink out of cups like one lol
come at me! bro

Hey man, not baby cups man. They're taller and just have lids. Respect the lids man. That = no spills. :D

Esam, do you plan on coming to cfl anytime soon?
I wanna MM your IC if you don't mind. Jeff is the only ICs I face so I wanna see what different players play like. Lol

 

[Exdeath]

Hey man, not baby cups man. They're taller and just have lids. Respect the lids man. That = no spills. :D

Esam, do you plan on coming to cfl anytime soon?
I wanna MM your IC if you don't mind. Jeff is the only ICs I face so I wanna see what different players play like. Lol

Just wait until Jeff teaches me to CG consistently. I'm coming at you bro.

 

[2-DJeff]

lol xdeath only go ic when hes wario lol we will beat your ic with mk like 3stock lol i have a super hard time beating sax.

 

[Exdeath]

lol xdeath only go ic when hes wario lol we will beat your ic with mk like 3stock lol i have a super hard time beating sax.

Why would I go IC on his Wario when I can use Dedede...?

Sax would get destroyed by ESAM (no offense is meant to Sax) -- his style in the match-up is more suited to you as a player than ICs. I do like how Sax plays, though.

ITT: IC Social becomes CFL Social.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'm pretty jealous about that cup.

 

[2-DJeff]

sax gives me more trouble then seibrik so you dont know that.
your just saying esam will destroy sax because esam is a better player which he is but at this particular MU that was the same with mero. mero was telling me how he 3stocked mks in MD VA when he was up there but then he played sax and mero won but it was only 1stock. so like i said you can just say that. just because sax beat gdx dosnt mean he can beat d-torr. and just because you beat d-tor dosnt mean you can beat gdx. styles and mu means alot so your arguement/statement isnt really valid. Ill teach you the CG and then ill put 100$ on sax to ethier 3stock you or 2stock low percent.
you keep underestamating sax. Thats like when you destroyed aglow (IC main) with mk then play me with mk and get destroyed. Its a diffrent situation

 

[SAX]

Why would I go IC on his Wario when I can use Dedede...?

Sax would get destroyed by ESAM (no offense is meant to Sax) -- his style in the match-up is more suited to you as a player than ICs. I do like how Sax plays, though.

ITT: IC Social becomes CFL Social.

That's exactly WHY I want to MM him lol. I wanna learn those different styles. It'll just help me as a player.
I'd like to say I would get him down to last stock though

No johns, but when I faced Mero, I had JUST gotten to NNL and he'd already played a bunch, and I hadn't played in a couple days... Just sayin.

Not saying I'll win or lose against anyone here. I just wanna MM esam IC. Simple as that.

 

[2-DJeff]

its like there 3 diffrent types of players ones that Knows MU. ones that are just good players in genral(the best kind imo). then theres ones that are just as good as there character(the worst kind imo in most ways not all)

 

[Sieguest]

IC social just got hijacked by Florida smashers...
What the deuce?

 

[2-DJeff]

they like to follow me lol xD

 

[Sieguest]

Do you owe them money or something? Bros are onto you!

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I was here before it was cool to be here.

 

[Sieguest]

But it's always been cool to be here. It's the Ice Climbers.

 

[SAX]

I was here when I saw Jeff's awful typing.

I couldn't resist.
The troll will live on forever. I think Mink will make sure of that more than anyone though xD

 

[2-DJeff]

Lol eff you sax

@hospes the just love me lol

 

[Exdeath]

you keep underestamating sax. Thats like when you destroyed aglow (IC main) with mk then play me with mk and get destroyed. Its a diffrent situation

IIRC, I three stocked you after I beat Aglow haha. Maybe you're thinking of when I was playing extremely unsafe and just experimenting. If that's what you're talking about then you probably did beat me a lot.

I think highly of Sax, however he has a lot of holes in the MU that I don't see you take advantage of, which --along with the significant difference in skill level-- is why I think that ESAM will beat him badly. It has nothing to do with what he's done vs. other players. Sax and I will point out holes in each other's play -- I appreciate that he does that for me and I assume that he appreciates it as well. In the case of the IC MU, we disagree on how MK should play the MU, so it will ultimately come down to that. No biggie.

I can see why you would think that I underestimate Sax, though. At the last Gallaxfest that Sax was at, you said that he would beat me in MK dittos and had a good chance at beating D-Torr, and -- given what I'd seen of him that day -- I disagreed. From that I can see you getting the impression that I think lowly of Sax.

 

[SAX]

sax gives me more trouble then seibrik so you dont know that.
your just saying esam will destroy sax because esam is a better player which he is but at this particular MU that was the same with mero. mero was telling me how he 3stocked mks in MD VA when he was up there but then he played sax and mero won but it was only 1stock. so like i said you can just say that. just because sax beat gdx dosnt mean he can beat d-torr. and just because you beat d-tor dosnt mean you can beat gdx. styles and mu means alot so your arguement/statement isnt really valid. Ill teach you the CG and then ill put 100$ on sax to ethier 3stock you or 2stock low percent.
you keep underestamating sax. Thats like when you destroyed aglow (IC main) with mk then play me with mk and get destroyed. Its a diffrent situation

IIRC, I three stocked you after I beat Aglow haha. Maybe you're thinking of when I was playing extremely unsafe and just experimenting. If that's what you're talking about then you probably did beat me a lot.

I think highly of Sax, however he has a lot of holes in the MU that I don't see you take advantage of, which --along with the significant difference in skill level-- is why I think that ESAM will beat him badly. It has nothing to do with what he's done vs. other players. Sax and I will point out holes in each other's play -- I appreciate that he does that for me and I assume that he appreciates it as well. In the case of the IC MU, we disagree on how MK should play the MU, so it will ultimately come down to that. No biggie.

I can see why you would think that I underestimate Sax, though. At the last Gallaxfest that Sax was at, you said that he would beat me in MK dittos and had a good chance at beating D-Torr, and -- given what I'd seen of him that day -- I disagreed. From that I can see you getting the impression that I think lowly of Sax.

God, I hope I never play that awful again haha. I main wario again though, So I'll be going wario for those MU from now on, Which I redeemed myself by getting 3rd at the first CPR :D
And yeah, I do appreciate the help xdeath, I appreciate any help anyone gives me, It can only make me better. We should friendly/MM next time we meet up.

 

[DeLux]

I'm bad at the wario matchup

 

[Hylian]

Wario is my best match-up .

 

[DeLux]

I'm actually bad at every matchup Hylian. That's the joke.

I thought I was good at the Snake matchup for a while, but then I realized I was bad at that one too.

 

[Hylian]

I'm actually bad at every matchup Hylian. That's the joke.

I thought I was good at the Snake matchup for a while, but then I realized I was bad at that one too.

You just need to play more lol.

I've always been pretty good at brawl(started off amazing, got not great, now pretty good again lol) but melee I played for 6-7 years and wasn't decent until like..5 years after I started playing competitively and then I was only mediocre lol so I know what it's like. Something eventually just clicks.

 

[DeLux]

My worst matchup has been against myself as of late.
I've been CGing at a 10%ish success rates. Lots of Grab Setups > Lots of Dropped Grabs.

Debating taking a tournament break for awhile to get my head on straight or trying to power through it with more and more practice.

Not sure which :\

 

[Sieguest]

DeLux gets JV 4 Stocked by himself.... wtf.

Methinks you just need to slow down and breath bro.

 

[2-DJeff]

IIRC, I three stocked you after I beat Aglow haha. Maybe you're thinking of when I was playing extremely unsafe and just experimenting. If that's what you're talking about then you probably did beat me a lot.

I think highly of Sax, however he has a lot of holes in the MU that I don't see you take advantage of, which --along with the significant difference in skill level-- is why I think that ESAM will beat him badly. It has nothing to do with what he's done vs. other players. Sax and I will point out holes in each other's play -- I appreciate that he does that for me and I assume that he appreciates it as well. In the case of the IC MU, we disagree on how MK should play the MU, so it will ultimately come down to that. No biggie.

I can see why you would think that I underestimate Sax, though. At the last Gallaxfest that Sax was at, you said that he would beat me in MK dittos and had a good chance at beating D-Torr, and -- given what I'd seen of him that day -- I disagreed. From that I can see you getting the impression that I think lowly of Sax.

Have you never went a set without getting 3stocked by me in tourney when the tourney had money on the line? Have you ever beat me in a paid tourney with mk? My point exactly. You only beat me in a friendly like a couple weeks after I picked up ic. Your ddd gives me way more trouble we can mm ic vs mk if you want
O and I didn't say sax will beat you in the mk ditto. I saod you should watch out because I've been helping him but then you told me you train woth redhalberd(one of the best mk ditto players) in it. I thought to my self this isn't good.

 

[DeLux]

Well, I used to think before, "It's ok, I would have won if I didn't drop my grabs."

But now I've decided that mentality is a cop out and I need to own up to my failures before I can conqueor them. No more John of the Ice Climbers.

 

[Smoom77]

My best matchup is Peach.

 

[DeLux]

I'm bad at the Peach matchup

 

[Smoom77]

My best matchup is MK.

 

[Smoom77]

did you read my super long post on the peach matchup LUX?!?!?!??!?!!

 

[z00ted]

If YOU DIDn'T YOU SHOULD...

IT'S REALLY GOOD

 

[DeLux]

I read it. I'm not top 5 ICs level yet like you are Smoom.

I don't understand floating. It's broken lol

If ICs could float they would be top tier.

 

[Exdeath]

Have you never went a set without getting 3stocked by me in tourney when the tourney had money on the line? Have you ever beat me in a paid tourney with mk? My point exactly. You only beat me in a friendly like a couple weeks after I picked up ic. Your ddd gives me way more trouble we can mm ic vs mk if you want
O and I didn't say sax will beat you in the mk ditto. I saod you should watch out because I've been helping him but then you told me you train woth redhalberd(one of the best mk ditto players) in it. I thought to my self this isn't good.

I gave up on Game 1 after losing my then-winning stock at low % due to an accidental Side-B. That my never-used DDD beats you after you three stock my MK is... something or other.

I don't regularly train with him per say. I just played with him in two different long-ish sets. I said that Halberd helped me in the ditto, which he did. The only MK in FL that I genuinely feel that I have little to no real chance of beating is him. I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way vs. S3ibrik/Afr0/Sax at this time.

Spoiler

With some fire, salt, and a hint of cinnamon, I summon thee Red Halberd!

 

[Smoom77]

they can lux. just fuse!!!!!!!!!!!

and how did you know i said that illmatic..............?????????????????

 

[DeLux]

Can you fuse against peach though?

I can see how float would beat float

 

[Smoom77]

if we had a float, it wouldn't help. what can we do against them doing a retreating floated fair? NOTHING!

and yeah, you can fuse against peach. grab.

 

[DeLux]

How do I bait a peach to grab me?

 

[Smoom77]

put your controller on your lap, but don't tell them you have invisible strings from your controls to your fingers.

 

[z00ted]

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[DeLux]

but wouldn't they just Dair me?

 

[Smoom77]

no, they would obviously grab you.

or you could tell them to grab you.