So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?

[-LzR-]

I don't know anything about Melee IC duh. It's just that their smashes seems to be pathetically weak. Well I practiced today and now I use the fthrow to hypen smash. It works great so far.

 

[Rubberbandman]

Hyphen smash = liability to trip.

 

[kackamee]

Dsmash does like 23472587% But has no knockback.

 

[DeLux]

So unless my new main fails me in pools and I'm forced to rush and debut them one day early, my version of the 2011 Climbers debut in one day. WGF hype

Good luck to IC's competing in tournaments everywhere this weekend.
I pray that your CGs and Nanas serve you well

 

[Vex Kasrani]

So unless my new main fails me in pools and I'm forced to rush and debut them one day early, my version of the 2011 Climbers debut in one day. WGF hype

Good luck to IC's competing in tournaments everywhere this weekend.
I pray that your CGs and Nanas serve you well

You got this.

 

[-LzR-]

Hyphen smash = liability to trip.

Doing it without dashing is harder than the cg itself >_>

 

[EverAlert]

Dsmash does like 23472587% But has no knockback.

dsmash does have decent knockback, it's just not top tier knockback like usmash.

Doing it without dashing is harder than the cg itself >_>

Nah it's the same, just pretend like you're going to regrab off an fthrow but press usmash instead of grab.

 

[-LzR-]

I'll try that. But doesn't that have different timings for each character too?

 

[Exceladon City]

Tournament today. Time to CG to the money. I'm gonna be chaingrabbing dollar bills.

 

[Rubberbandman]

I'll try that. But doesn't that have different timings for each character too?

no fthrow is exactly the same for every character. Same with upthrow.

 

[TheSaintKai]

Going to a tourney in Daphne, Alabama that has Kismet and Reflex. O:
Wish me luck guys.
(NO NAME HYPE.)

 

[EverAlert]

I'll try that. But doesn't that have different timings for each character too?

It doesn't, but even if it did my tip wouldn't change.

 

[Smoom77]

I'm going to a 15 man tourney with Razer, Jerm, and Trela! Wish me luck!

 

[Darkshadow96]

someone used my account to spam, sorry.

 

[-LzR-]

Fthrow is the same for each character?
It feels different for Ness for example, but do you mean the speed of the animation is always the same no matter how heavy the opponent is?

 

[Sieguest]

Fthrow is the same for each character?
It feels different for Ness for example, but do you mean the speed of the animation is always the same no matter how heavy the opponent is?

The throw speed is exactly the same for all characters. The reason Ness feels different is because of spacing and the shape of his hurtbox.

 

[Smoom77]

Lol I got like super low in singles, idk what place. But I got third with Illmatic. I made $2.50 lol

 

[TheSaintKai]

Got 5th, with Reflex, Kismet, Billy, and George there.
Billy and George are 3 and 4 on Alabama's PR.
I felt like I could've got third though.

 

[DeLux]

I am kind of playing a big shot guy first round of bracket tomorrow. It rhymes with "Wii Fartin". I am doomed.

PS: I played like crap today, but still managed to claw my way into bracket. Hopefully I get my **** together for tomorrow.

When I am less tired, I'll tell you guys the funny story on how I lost the money match to Rich Brown.

 

[TheSaintKai]

I am kind of playing a big shot guy first round of bracket tomorrow. It rhymes with "Wii Fartin". I am doomed.

PS: I played like crap today, but still managed to claw my way into bracket. Hopefully I get my **** together for tomorrow.

When I am less tired, I'll tell you guys the funny story on how I lost the money match to Rich Brown.

He went Lucario against my ICs when I played him in November, I don't know if he will against you,

but if he does, realize that even if his second jump is used, and he d-airs your shield, he's still able to do it again.
Footstools are gay. I might've actually beaten him if I had found a way around that.
I took him to his last stock, and I'm a scrub though.
YOU CAN DO IT LUX.

 

[ch33s3]

I am kind of playing a big shot guy first round of bracket tomorrow. It rhymes with "Wii Fartin". I am doomed.

PS: I played like crap today, but still managed to claw my way into bracket. Hopefully I get my **** together for tomorrow.

When I am less tired, I'll tell you guys the funny story on how I lost the money match to Rich Brown.

I came sorta close the last time. Yougotdis.

 

[Roller]

He actually gets grabbed a decent amount. You just have to not fu** up the cg. I'd be practicing vs lucy tonight.

 

[-LzR-]

The throw speed is exactly the same for all characters. The reason Ness feels different is because of spacing and the shape of his hurtbox.

Thank you guys. This will also be helpful.
You know the IC boards are so friendly and helpful, I am gonna like you guys ^_^

 

[kackamee]

Got 5th, with Reflex, Kismet, Billy, and George there.
Billy and George are 3 and 4 on Alabama's PR.
I felt like I could've got third though.

Good stuff bro! Who'd you beat?

I am kind of playing a big shot guy first round of bracket tomorrow. It rhymes with "Wii Fartin". I am doomed.

PS: I played like crap today, but still managed to claw my way into bracket. Hopefully I get my **** together for tomorrow.

When I am less tired, I'll tell you guys the funny story on how I lost the money match to Rich Brown.

D: Lucario ain't nuthin. MK is something though.

 

[Exceladon City]

So guess who had a pool full of Anti-ICs and a terribad mindset and didn't make it to brackets?

<-----

Yeah, I had a pretty jittery feeling in my body and almost losing to Nicalobe just put me in a dumb mood. Then I lose to Sorasin's Falco because NOBODY TOLD ME THAT UTILT STOPS ****ING IAPs. So, my Nana got phantasm ***** over and over again. So at that point in time, I was literally seething that I lost a match-up I could've easily won AND I dropped like 9378726328 grabs. So I go MK against him and I just blew it. A match-up that I practice on a REGULAR basis and I had such a clouded thought process that I couldn't even play correctly. Yeah, I was in a ****ty mood after I lost to him. I went MK in all of my pools matches except against a Fox player who switched to GW when I picked ICs and SoraSin's Falco.

Brb quitting life.

 

[Rubberbandman]

Excel, play my GnW more online if you really need help with the MU that badly. -.- It at least got Dom better at the MU. ;P

And yes, phatasm gets stopped by almost every option you have, I've stuffed it with Up angled Ftilt a couple times before.

 

[Exceladon City]

Excel, play my GnW more online if you really need help with the MU that badly. -.- It at least got Dom better at the MU. ;P

And yes, phatasm gets stopped by almost every option you have, I've stuffed it with Up angled Ftilt a couple times before.

Sure. Like I 2 stocked his GW, but he doesn't really play GW. It's Falco that I need practice against. He would phantasm the moment I got within Blizzard range and I'm like "WTF do I do against this?!?!" I

 

[Rubberbandman]

Learn on your own the best thing to do. I might just get slightly out of bliz range and bait out a phantasm to utilt.

Be creative, he's more scared of you.

 

[Exceladon City]

Learn on your own the best thing to do. I might just get slightly out of bliz range and bait out a phantasm to utilt.

Be creative, he's more scared of you.

Yeah, it was more of me being stressed because I really just needed to beat him to ensure that I got out of pools. Top 4 made it out and I already knew who the Top 3 seeds were going to be. With him running a train on my ICs, it didn't help at all with that.

 

[TheSaintKai]

Good stuff bro! Who'd you beat?

Best Marth in AL, thanks to Hylian giving me advice on the MU. (Name was Kola.)
Uhm. Best Pika in AL. (Name was PikaCam.)
In friendlies I was beating Billy after I practiced CGing Snake for 15 minutes when I was salty after my loss in tourney.
Best G&W in AL. This match was interesting, too. (His name was darkm3troid, but his tag was m3t.)
I whooped him in round 1, JV 3 stock.
Round 2 was RC, where...well. Yeah.
Round 3, he was about to 3 stock me, and I sat in the respawner and calmed down. And then I Got two grabs on him, and I guess he choked, because he SD'd on the third life. :DD Close as ****.
Best Peach in AL. (CheapPeach)

I played Reflex, and that was just bad. I need practice on the Wario MU.
I took two games off of Kismet.
Not in bracket, I didn't face him in bracket.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Best Marth in AL, thanks to Hylian giving me advice on the MU. (Name was Kola.)
Uhm. Best Pika in AL. (Name was PikaCam.)
In friendlies I was beating Billy after I practiced CGing Snake for 15 minutes when I was salty after my loss in tourney.
Best G&W in AL. This match was interesting, too. (His name was darkm3troid, but his tag was m3t.)
I whooped him in round 1, JV 3 stock.
Round 2 was RC, where...well. Yeah.
Round 3, he was about to 3 stock me, and I sat in the respawner and calmed down. And then I Got two grabs on him, and I guess he choked, because he SD'd on the third life. :DD Close as ****.
Best Peach in AL. (CheapPeach)

I played Reflex, and that was just bad. I need practice on the Wario MU.
I took two games off of Kismet.
Not in bracket, I didn't face him in bracket.

You beat the -only- Marth in AL, the -only- Pikachu in AL, the -only- Game and Watch in AL, and the -only- Peach in AL, none of which are any more than sort of decent at the game.

You don't need to work on the Wario matchup--You just need to stop being so cursed formulaic. You have three gameplay types: You're either using the most basic B move desynchs, using Smash attacks repeatedly, or running up to the opponent and spotdodging until the opponent panics and does something, allowing you to get a grab. It's easy to tell which phase you're on at the moment, and makes dealing with you really, really easy, because you don't vary from that -at all.- One thing I can say as a positive is that you're rather efficient with your chaingrabs; you rarely mess up when you get it started. You need to pivot grab a lot more, you need to learn how to be more creative with your desynchs, and you need to stop relying on spotdodging in order to get your grabs.

The main reason my older brother can consistently maintain his number two on the AL Power Rankings is because no one else in Alabama has any idea at all on how to play against Ice Climbers.

Don't let this come off as trashtalk or anything. I just don't want you to get an inflated ego for beating mediocre players.

 

[Hylian]

I did bad at the circuit final . Got 5th losing to domo in winners and mjg in losers both game 3. I played falco and gw against mjg but mm'ed him after going all ics and took his tl to game 3 all close. I think im just going to use ics vs him now. My set with domo was dumb, i died at like 10% on my last stock game 3 .

 

[TheSaintKai]

You beat the -only- Marth in AL, the -only- Pikachu in AL, the -only- Game and Watch in AL, and the -only- Peach in AL, none of which are any more than sort of decent at the game.

You don't need to work on the Wario matchup--You just need to stop being so cursed formulaic. You have three gameplay types: You're either using the most basic B move desynchs, using Smash attacks repeatedly, or running up to the opponent and spotdodging until the opponent panics and does something, allowing you to get a grab. It's easy to tell which phase you're on at the moment, and makes dealing with you really, really easy, because you don't vary from that -at all.- One thing I can say as a positive is that you're rather efficient with your chaingrabs; you rarely mess up when you get it started. You need to pivot grab a lot more, you need to learn how to be more creative with your desynchs, and you need to stop relying on spotdodging in order to get your grabs.

The main reason my older brother can consistently maintain his number two on the AL Power Rankings is because no one else in Alabama has any idea at all on how to play against Ice Climbers.

Don't let this come off as trashtalk or anything. I just don't want you to get an inflated ego for beating mediocre players.

Alright. I agree with it all.
I can tell it's not trash talk, because trashtalkers don't point out anything good, and you did, thanks Reflex.
I'll work on it all.

As for me seeming to have an inflated ego: I didn't realize there were so few players in Alabama. I assumed, because I was told that they were the best with their characters, that they were the best in state. That's why I specified that they were the best.

I'll work on actively thinking as I play, so I don't fall into a "gameplay type", as you put it.
The spotdodging into a grab thing was a carry-over from playing Marth all the time. Hylian told me that it was useful, and I got used to it, I guess.

Thanks for critiquing me. Sorry for getting you worked up. xD

 

[-LzR-]

People, no one has never, EVER touched IC in Finland before. I am pretty decent them already.

If I practice enough would I really do well with them due to everyones lack of experience?
People have really learned the MK MU already and I want to **** on flat stages too :D

 

[2-DJeff]

Alright. I agree with it all.
I can tell it's not trash talk, because trashtalkers don't point out anything good, and you did, thanks Reflex.
I'll work on it all.

As for me seeming to have an inflated ego: I didn't realize there were so few players in Alabama. I assumed, because I was told that they were the best with their characters, that they were the best in state. That's why I specified that they were the best.

I'll work on actively thinking as I play, so I don't fall into a "gameplay type", as you put it.
The spotdodging into a grab thing was a carry-over from playing Marth all the time. Hylian told me that it was useful, and I got used to it, I guess.

Thanks for critiquing me. Sorry for getting you worked up. xD

go to ZP or Ryos birthday then we can see how good you are. I wanna see how good you are for myself.

 

[DeLux]

Things that I am good at:
Fighting characters that aren't MK

Things that I am not good at:
Fighting characters that are MK

It's like, every time I catch them in a blizzard trap using my desync, I just want to run in and grab. And every time I would get Dair separated and ***** because I did it.

Kept saying, "Don't do that and just take your free damage and reset. Wait for tornado and grab that." But my thumb kept being like, "Do that thing I taught you." and hitting the grab button over and over.

If you ever face me at a tourney, counter pick MK against me. You'll probably win and I need the practice lol

I did not play Lee. They changed my bracket. I lost to TKD who went MK on me instead of Fox. And I lost to UTT who went MK on me. I might go MK on me and start playing the character as well.

 

[-LzR-]

Mk is almost as hard to grab as Wario. And lol@Blizzard comboing into a grab.
Try not to get so greedy D:

 

[Rubberbandman]

Your fingers will deceive you. Do not trust them.

 

[Roller]

Mk is almost as hard to grab as Wario. And lol@Blizzard comboing into a grab.
Try not to get so greedy D:

umm... You can pivotgrab wario out of ANYTHING.










Just sayin'.

 

[Smoom77]

Oh PLEASE do not try to grab after blizzard. The only character that works on is like Ganon at 0%. If you got that MK in like one of your climber's blizzard, run back and RAR blizzard back. And learn to tech the ground for Nana while you're doing blizzard. All she'll do is (if you miss) is airdodge and that doesn't matter.

I want to play more top level MKs

Who does everyone think has the best MK vs ICs? I've only played havok and Dphat so I can't really say.