Snake Q&A

[Black_Heretic]

Black:

Do the infinite 1-2 times for that extra 16% then fthrow them. Then go camp with 'nades while they recover, and if they try to close in, space with ftilt.

Also, I study it from 9am to 10pm (my hours of operation) >.>

nah, my style is more of ftilt then fair for the meteor, I've never much cared for the dthrow infinite, C4 on the underside of the ledge is more fun

also, If I'm not at work or doing my college work, I'm on here, idk the hours I'm on though but generally late into the night

 

[SuSa]

Fair for meteor is far to risky and will get you punished by most players.

You're better off C4'ing near the edge, placing a Mine at Roll Distance, and then if you have the time start up your Nikita, get it above the edge, aim it up, pause a second, drop it. Then wait for your opponents reaction.

(or **** the nikita and do a full hop/double jump nair so if they try to ledgehop)

I don't really care for the dthrow infinite, but when I can, I do >.>

Also c4 on Battlefield under stage is hilarious when your friends trying to ledgecamp you, then "Now!" KABOOM! *stage spiked*

 

[Black_Heretic]

Fair for meteor is far to risky and will get you punished by most players.

You're better off C4'ing near the edge, placing a Mine at Roll Distance, and then if you have the time start up your Nikita, get it above the edge, aim it up, pause a second, drop it. Then wait for your opponents reaction.

(or **** the nikita and do a full hop/double jump nair so if they try to ledgehop)

I don't really care for the dthrow infinite, but when I can, I do >.>

Also c4 on Battlefield under stage is hilarious when your friends trying to ledgecamp you, then "Now!" KABOOM! *stage spiked*

I'm well aware of how dangerous fair is, I wasn't serious, in matches I tend to forget Snake has a fair, I just meant if I was gonna risk a free hit, I'd want one that kills

double mine spaced right on the ledge = sex, strip some nades out over the ledge, make them go for the stage only to hit a mine (or 2)

bolded = agreement

I would pay to see that happen to plank

 

[SuSa]

Lol... Silly Snake players... Snake has no fair...... >.> oh the quotes that will come from this.


I don't risky off-stage encounters. We all know Snake.. really... really... sucks... in the air.... hard....he's better on the ground.


Question:

Who here has blown themselves to ****ing smitherines at 180-200% with a c4 by accident.... and LIVED... :o *raises hand*

Proper DI is a must.

 

[Black_Heretic]

Lol... Silly Snake players... Snake has no fair...... >.> oh the quotes that will come from this.


I don't risky off-stage encounters. We all know Snake.. really... really... sucks... in the air.... hard....he's better on the ground.


Question:

Who here has blown themselves to ****ing smitherines at 180-200% with a c4 by accident.... and LIVED... :o *raises hand*

Proper DI is a must.

whats a fair? lol

I just toss cooked nades offstage then shield drop another to edgeguard, no need to go anywhere near the ledge >.>

I've C4 stage teched myself to 280 in a tourney match on my last stock only to ledgehop a retreating nair, killing a MK ftw, it was epic

does that count?

 

[SuSa]

whats a fair? lol

I just toss cooked nades offstage then shield drop another to edgeguard, no need to go anywhere near the ledge >.>

I've C4 stage teched myself to 280 in a tourney match on my last stock only to ledgehop a retreating nair, killing a MK ftw, it was epic

does that count?

Considering I can't stage-tech myself worth **** *goes to practice in training mode at FD as the CPU set to 150%* that does count. Also, that is epic.


I go near the edge a little, but I mostly sit cooking and tossing nades after I set a mine and c4

 

[Black_Heretic]

Considering I can't stage-tech myself worth **** *goes to practice in training mode at FD as the CPU set to 150%* that does count. Also, that is epic.


I go near the edge a little, but I mostly sit cooking and tossing nades after I set a mine and c4

it won me $75 so I was happy

My snake is afraid of heights, he only goes to the ledge when there is no other option

well... depending on the matchup, sometimes a run off bair stage spike is necessary (or too epic to pass up)

I wonder if our random talk is answering any questions?

 

[SuSa]

Oh yah... that reminds me for the video guide.......

Stage-spiking with c4, bair, epic grenade play (throw it against stage and catch it.... lol....), using the cypher to star KO (that is ALWAYS epic... haven't done it in a tourney, but I've done it 4 times in friendlies)

Snake's don't like heights, why do you think they slither and not fly? lol


EDIT:

I'm sure we're answering SOME questions.... and letting people know some good uses for things. lol

 

[Taeran]

Speaking of stage spikes, what moves that snake has can he stage spike with?

I once thought I had discovered a spike when I only hit with the first hit od D3's dair, but it was really close to the edge and I realised it was a stage spike.

%$#*!

Spiking/meteoring people is fun.

:bigthumbu

Hmmm...


:hunger:

 

[SuSa]

Bair, last hit of nair/dair, uair (if they are under a lip), grenades, c4, nikita.... and that covers it methinks.

Practical ones:

Bair
Grenades
C4
Nikita

Ones that you'll get 1/10-20 matches most likely

Bair
Grenades

Ones that you'll get 10/50-60 matches
Nikita
C4

 

[Black_Heretic]

Oh yah... that reminds me for the video guide.......

Stage-spiking with c4, bair, epic grenade play (throw it against stage and catch it.... lol....), using the cypher to star KO (that is ALWAYS epic... haven't done it in a tourney, but I've done it 4 times in friendlies)

Snake's don't like heights, why do you think they slither and not fly? lol


EDIT:

I'm sure we're answering SOME questions.... and letting people know some good uses for things. lol

also, mortar sliding with a nade, throw it up, uptilt = sexy kill

Flying snakes, thats ridiculous

lol, hopefully

EDIT, mortar missile can stage spike if it hits somebody recovering below stage, its pretty common if you edgeguard by throwing out upsmashes

 

[Taeran]

Flying snakes, thats ridiculous

lol, hopefully

That snake has been inhalin'.

Not a herion related post, but helium.

Snake says in high-pitched voice: Go!

 

[SuSa]

also, mortar sliding with a nade, throw it up, uptilt = sexy kill

Flying snakes, thats ridiculous

lol, hopefully

EDIT, mortar missile can stage spike if it hits somebody recovering below stage, its pretty common if you edgeguard by throwing out upsmashes

Flying snakes, thats ridiculous

lol, hopefully

That snake has been inhalin'.

Not a herion related post, but helium.

Snake says in high-pitched voice: Go!

Great, now we Snake's have two snake meme's.

1. "Flying Snakes, thats ridiculous"
2. "Camp with 'nades space with ftilt"

Also, yah I forgot about Upsmash >.> but its a bit more risky and less worth it then other methods.

Also yes, DAC with a grenade... from 'same spot' and a roll away, or a small walk back....

 

[Black_Heretic]

Great, now we Snake's have two snake meme's.

1. "Flying Snakes, thats ridiculous"
2. "Camp with 'nades space with ftilt"

Also, yah I forgot about Upsmash >.> but its a bit more risky and less worth it then other methods.

Also yes, DAC with a grenade... from 'same spot' and a roll away, or a small walk back....

whats a fair?

its not so risky if used properly, I only try it if the opponent has to recover vertically so it works on a good chunk of the cast

it cooks them almost perfectly, and nobody is ready for the nade DAC to shield explosion

 

[SuSa]

LOL my question time...


Can you Grenade Strip (or Grenade Drop w/e) a Shield Dropped Grenade?

I haven't bothered to test, but I know you can Grenade Drop a normally tossed 'nade by just shield dropping another...

 

[Black_Heretic]

LOL my question time...


Can you Grenade Strip (or Grenade Drop w/e) a Shield Dropped Grenade?

I haven't bothered to test, but I know you can Grenade Drop a normally tossed 'nade by just shield dropping another...

as long as its your nade you can strip it whether shield dropped or normal tossed

by shield dropping a second grenade it'll make the first one regardless of where it is, who's holding it, or anything else fall straight down

its very useful for edgeguarding

 

[SuSa]

Haha thanks...

never bothered to try and Grenade Strip a Shield Dropped 'nade xD

 

[Black_Heretic]

Haha thanks...

never bothered to try and Grenade Strip a Shield Dropped 'nade xD

I've made it a habit, nade stripping is too fun

Spoiler

is every thread on here going to be just me talking to you?

 

[SuSa]

Active people:

Havokk, Black_Heretic, 8Angel8, Taeran

Is there any more? XD

 

[Taeran]

Active people:

Havokk, Black_Heretic, 8Angel8, Taeran

Is there any more? XD

Don't worry, I'm only the forerunner of a vast swarm of noobs that are about to swarm the board.

It will be an OVERSWARM!!!!!

*OS pops his head out of the sea of noobs*

I will be at their lead...

:flame:

 

[Black_Heretic]

Active people:

Havokk, Black_Heretic, 8Angel8, Taeran

Is there any more? XD

do we need anymore?

@ Taeran

lol if Overswarm searches his name and come here like WTF?

 

[SuSa]

do we need anymore?

@ Taeran

lol if Overswarm searches his name and come here like WTF?

Depends how useful those 'more' are...

If we get noobs who ask about the double up-B. There will be hell. (read my sticky, rofl)

 

[Taeran]

lol if Overswarm searches his name and come here like WTF?

Meh, probably not, OS's feelings toward brawl now that MK wasn't banned...

:nes:

At my lead, any noob who asks about double cypher shall be flogged to death!

Most of them are too stupid to type faster then a man shrunk to the size of an atom!

 

[Black_Heretic]

Depends how useful those 'more' are...

If we get noobs who ask about the double up-B. There will be hell. (read my sticky, rofl)

I still say we should sticky a thread that says why Nades don't beat D3's cg unless he f***s up

we've gotten like 3 of those threads in the past few weeks

also, we have 2 useful people then me and you who are on every thread

its like a little family

 

[SuSa]

I still say we should sticky a thread that says why Nades don't beat D3's cg unless he f***s up

we've gotten like 3 of those threads in the past few weeks

also, we have 2 useful people then me and you who are on every thread

its like a little family

Angel is the father, you're the...second father! , I'm some random noob who came and become the child.

And now we have a second child


Screw it.

Genetic Father, Clone Father, and me and the new guy are clones.

Let's stick somewhat to the MGS storyline

 

[Black_Heretic]

Angel is the father, you're the...second father! , I'm some random noob who came and become the child.

And now we have a second child


Screw it.

Genetic Father, Clone Father, and me and the new guy are clones.

Let's stick somewhat to the MGS storyline

I mained Snake before Angel... s***, I've used Snake since release XD

 

[Nic64]

I still say we should sticky a thread that says why Nades don't beat D3's cg unless he f***s up

have you tried mashing B while screaming CRAB BATTLE!?

 

[Black_Heretic]

have you tried mashing B while screaming CRAB BATTLE!?

that doesn't make me wrong, it causes a mistake due to being a WTF moment allowing you to pull a nade

 

[Nic64]

that wasn't serious -_-

 

[SuSa]

I mained Snake before Angel... s***, I've used Snake since release XD

then you're the genetic father and we're all clones that works.


I'm seriously just the random guy that wants to kill MK and Snake seems to stand the best chance (besides possibly... diddy kong...)

 

[Black_Heretic]

that wasn't serious -_-

I know, and I'm still gonna try it later for some lulz

Edit: @havokk

random guy you may be, but you're trying hard to improve things around here so that makes you useful

 

[Taeran]

*sniffles* awww... I'm the baby clone!

Edit: Or maybe the embreyo...

Edit 2: We should get back on topic...

 

[Black_Heretic]

*sniffles* awww... I'm the baby clone!

Edit: Or maybe the embreyo...

You can be Raiden, but then nobody would like you and we'd make fun of you for getting ball grabbed by the president

EDIT: @ your edit 2, ask a question somebody

 

[8AngeL8]

I check this thread to help out and it turns out I somehow became a parent, lol.

Yeah, I'm pretty new to Snake myself, but I came up with the best advice next to "Don't get hit." I'm talking, of course, about "Camp with 'Nades and space with Ftilt."

Man, the D3 threads are kinda getting out of hand. I know it's probably our hardest matchup, but people need to accept that and learn to not get grabbed, rather than thinking they discovered a way out with 'nades.


Since this is a QandA thread, when do you guys use the Dair? The only use I have for it as of now is out of shield when they're close and short enough that I know I can DI behind if they shield.

 

[-Ran]

Jab cancel -> Dair.
Perfect Shield laggy attack -> Dair.
Down throw -> Dair.
Never out of Spot Dodge.
Never as a short hop.
Never as a full hop.
Never as a double hop.
On the rare occasion as I fall down vs someone approaching aerially when they are anticipating an air dodge.

Really, the Dair doesn't have much use where it is the optimum choice, or when it is actually safe.

 

[SuSa]

From Dthrow Techchase
OOS
Edgeguard... believe it or not

and thats it

 

[8AngeL8]

Edgeguard? Hmm... I'll have to try it. I've always just used Full hop nair. If you do it right as they get up, you cover almost all their options. If they just get up or jump up, they'll get hit, and their get up attack will usually go under you. If they just jump away, you won't be punished since they have to get back.

 

[-Ran]

Dair doesn't cancel into a ledge grab so chasing off level with it isn't recommend. Aside from the fact that Snake has crap priority in the air.

 

[yellowroy]

what are snakes good counterpicks? because i ussualy just counterpick with neutrals.

 

[SuSa]

battlefield, smashville..... >.> he does good on neutrals... lol

check the Snake Stage Discussion thread in a few weeks for more details

also:

Can some others post on the Stage Discussion? lmao