Smashing Composers: An Insight to the SSBB Soundtrack! (K.K. Rider Update)

[Chill]

It's interesting that Nintendo will go all out with the music (even hiring full orchestras for past iterations) for a fighting game, but then will totally skimp out for something like Zelda.

Nice topic, it's a cool and easy way to listen to a sample of these composers music.

 

[Kashakunaki]

This topic wins. Hardcore, might I add.

Most people... not, I'd push it and say about 90% of people say they are disappointed with the relaunch of the site, and while, I will admit, it wasn't what I expected, I am thoroughly pleased on two points:

1. It will be updated regularly with new information, so the site relaunch was the start of that. Not to mention I'm digging the new look.

2. The list of composers is mind blowing. I saw that and had to step back and take a breath or two before I went on. This soundtrack will blow everything out of the water... ever.

 

[GenG]

Awesome compilation work, Kenji Ito is one of my favourite composers ever, has a very distinctive epic rock style, adding changes in the tune here and there who make you asplode in awesomeness because you have the changes where you want, is hard to explain. His tunes are full of virtuosism and have a lot of variations and epic twists.

Prelude of Fight - Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
Challenge to Pantheon - Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
The Battle - Romacing SaGa 3
Battle 2 - Romancing SaGa 3
Four Noble Devils - Romancing SaGa 3
The Last Battle - Romancing SaGa 3
Seeking the Holy Sword - Sword of Mana
Battle 2 - Sword of Mana
The Final Decisive Battle - Sword of Mana

I'm looking forward for his contributions. The sound team for this game is as legendary as the game itself, I still can't believe it.

 

[Zinc]

Isn't the girl who composes Kingdom Hearts series also the same person who composed for SMRPG and M&L?

and uh, just curious but how good is the music for the person who composed the 'Everybody votes channel!'?

 

[GenG]

Isn't the girl who composes Kingdom Hearts series also the same person who composed for SMRPG and M&L?

Correct, she also composed M&L2. I think this could mean they could've borrowed a SMRPG track, possibly the Forest Maze theme, and Geno! (daydreaming).

 

[Darkfur]

May I make a suggestion that this composition by Yoko Shimomura be added under her name as well? It would make many fans potentially happy, methinks.

http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/sounds/mid/smrpgfrstmze1.mid

Edit: *laugh* I see it was mentioned. And here I thought no one rememebered and I'd surprise people by posting just the song with no name. It is indeed Forest Maze, AKA Geno's Woods.

 

[Nasanieru]

The list of composers for SSBB is amazing! And on top of that Motoi Sakuraba!!! In my opinion this guy is the greatest video game music composer of all time. He has composed soundtracks for very successful games such as the Golden Sun series, the Tales of... series, the Star Ocean series, Valkyrie Profile, Mario Sports, Baten Kaitos, the list goes on and on. I've been expecting great things from SSBB and so far it hasn't failed my expectations in a single aspect. I'm really looking forward to this ! ^ ^

Motoi Sakuraba Official Website: http://sakuraba.cocoebiz.com/

 

[Zeela12]

I just listend to most of the songs there, I have to say, some of the best things ever. It doesn't really matter if the charaters in the game that they composed for gets in or not, as long as these music pieces get in, It's good enough for me ^_^

(although it is a bit weird for the site to "capitalize" some of the game titles isnt it? hint maybe? or just inconsistant typing techinques?)

 

[Chidosengan]

Usually when writing/typing in roman characters, Japanese people tend to capitalize all the letters.

Example: Naruto. We would wright it that way, but the Japanese would go ナルト and then romanize it as NARUTO.

He was most likely copying and pasting. Or translation.

 

[Zeela12]

Usually when writing/typing in roman characters, Japanese people tend to capitalize all the letters.

Example: Naruto. We would wright it that way, but the Japanese would go ナルト and then romanize it as NARUTO.

He was most likely copying and pasting. Or translation.

o ic, that really takes out my excitment for things T_T

(OMG CHORNO FOR BRAWL?!?11 ONE ONE?!... guess not)

thx for clearifying.

 

[Avonej]

He only did the Main Theme for SSBB. He wasn't included in the list. We don't know if he's still part of the team, though he said he wanted to do more....

Actually, I believe Nobuo Uematsu did the main theme for brawl, whereas it was mainly Hitoshi Sakimoto who composed FFXII. Sakimoto took part in the Final Fantasy Tactics series, so you should look into those soundtracks if you like his music.

 

[Razo]

Koji Kondo - Midna's Desperation
http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/7298/72

If this music was included (perhaps slightly remixed to make it more SSBB friendly) at least as an alternate theme in a Zelda Twilight Realm stage... i think i'd orgasm.

 

[Junaur]

Ah, nice to see an organized topic on this. Honestly, I'm suprised more people don't really like this new info.

To keep the topic from gettting stale anytime soon, may I make a suggestion? Ask us all for tracks from the composers that we recommend, then let us vote for which track we liked best from each composer.
Fairly simple, and it'll last a while at a composer per day. Then just put the voted track as the sample music, so anyone who hasn't heard of them can hear, in our opinion, their best work.

 

[Lemon Drop]

I think that this update was awesome, I love listening to music of all kinds and all these great composers helping make the game's soundtracks is pretty awesome

People expect to much now a days

 

[Fawriel]

Awesome compilation work, Kenji Ito is one of my favourite composers ever, has a very distinctive epic rock style, adding changes in the tune here and there who make you asplode in awesomeness because you have the changes where you want, is hard to explain. His tunes are full of virtuosism and have a lot of variations and epic twists.

Prelude of Fight - Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
Challenge to Pantheon - Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
The Battle - Romacing SaGa 3
Battle 2 - Romancing SaGa 3
Four Noble Devils - Romancing SaGa 3
The Last Battle - Romancing SaGa 3
Seeking the Holy Sword - Sword of Mana
Battle 2 - Sword of Mana
The Final Decisive Battle - Sword of Mana

I'm looking forward for his contributions. The sound team for this game is as legendary as the game itself, I still can't believe it.

Wow, GenG. This post made my heart skip a beat.
I've always loved the music from Romancing Saga, one of the best to have some funky midi listening action with.
But when I read Sword of Mana, I experienced the first bit of hype again since the site launched.
Well, turns out it was NOT the game I was thinking of. I played Sword of Mana and liked the music but couldn't enjoy it as much since the game sucked so hard.
But then I looked up Legend of Mana... and the composer is there, too.
Yoko frikkin Shimomura.
Forget SMRPG and everything else. Legend of Mana, baby.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NWAIt3OeN9M
^. a demonstration of a boss fight in the game with the song Pain The Universe. It's the BEST **** BOSS BATTLE SONG IN EXISTENCE. I don't know how to find a downloadable version of appropriate quality, but... wow.

If Brawl has any songs like this, I'll cry.
And contrary to popular belief, that's a rare sight.

 

[GenG]

Sword of Mana isn't that great, is a remake of a very old title for the GB (called Seiken Densetsu, Secret of Mana being Seiken Densetsu 2) which was indeed superior than the remake, but the music rocked for a 8-bitish machine, and the remade songs are amazing. There is a concert of Seiken Densetsu too.

It's nice to see more Ito fans, it's such a underrated composer (due to the obscurity of his games) but has a style that everyone can enjoy instantly.

Legend of Mana has a very good soundtrack too: Pain the Universe.

 

[Fawriel]

...the mp3 has a variable bitrate. It's perfect.
I've spent the last few minutes trying to find my mp3 of Pain the Universe.
GenG, you are my hero. ;_;

 

[Sandy]

Best Boss theme in my opinion:

Giygas' Theme by Keiichi Suzuki / Hirokazu Tanaka

Game: Earthbound

Giygas Battle Music (Piano)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0onpcfEh5L0

Guitar Hero 2 Custom Song - Giygas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6QPlo1OSY

 

[Fawriel]

Oooooh, you have a point there, you really do... hehe, the whole game's full of crazy and awesomely tacky music, and suddenly you get frikkin METAL.
If someone could find a good downloadable version of that, it'd be muchly appreciated.

And GenG, it seems I have understated Kenji Ito. I hadn't listened to those remade Saga songs... they are awesome. =o Looks like the old systems just couldn't contain the ROCK this guy has!

Wikipedia:
"Kenji Ito is most well-known for his epic, rock-based battle themes and use of string ensembles in counterpoint and harmony. Strings, in some form, are present in a vast majority of Ito's music. Although usually not part of the melody, two to four string voices are often present in his music at lower pitches to harmonize and define chord progressions. These strings often move with the main melody in a form of counterpoint.

Also widely-used by Ito in his battle tracks is the slap bass. It is used in every Super Nintendo SaGa battle theme, and in many SaGa tracks onward. The slap bass sample controls the song's bassline and defines its chord progression at the root note. A common slap technique applied by Ito is octave "popping", where the original bass tone halts to make way for the same note an octave higher. When this technique is repeated (usually in eighth notes), the bass becomes more percussive (help·info)."

 

[Hydde]

Sword of Mana isn't that great, is a remake of a very old title for the GB (called Seiken Densetsu, Secret of Mana being Seiken Densetsu 2) which was indeed superior than the remake, but the music rocked for a 8-bitish machine, and the remade songs are amazing. There is a concert of Seiken Densetsu too.

It's nice to see more Ito fans, it's such a underrated composer (due to the obscurity of his games) but has a style that everyone can enjoy instantly.

Legend of Mana has a very good soundtrack too: Pain the Universe.

Secret of Mana had one of the best soundtracks i have listened in my gamer life. I remember i played that game when it came out on snes.... and fell totally in love with the soundtrack.


The boss battle (a great progressive rock/metal composition) , the flammies´s flight....and the Mana beast theme---- are just legendary.


If u have the chance , listen to that OST....


i just cant wait to see his contribution...............


dammit everyday im thinking more and more that ill buy brawl just tolisten the tunes!!!


fuking crazy game this will be.

 

[Hydde]

Oooooh, you have a point there, you really do... hehe, the whole game's full of crazy and awesomely tacky music, and suddenly you get frikkin METAL.
If someone could find a good downloadable version of that, it'd be muchly appreciated.


Wikipedia:
"Kenji Ito is most well-known for his epic, rock-based battle themes and use of string ensembles in counterpoint and harmony. Strings, in some form, are present in a vast majority of Ito's music. Although usually not part of the melody, two to four string voices are often present in his music at lower pitches to harmonize and define chord progressions. These strings often move with the main melody in a form of counterpoint.

Also widely-used by Ito in his battle tracks is the slap bass. It is used in every Super Nintendo SaGa battle theme, and in many SaGa tracks onward. The slap bass sample controls the song's bassline and defines its chord progression at the root note. A common slap technique applied by Ito is octave "popping", where the original bass tone halts to make way for the same note an octave higher. When this technique is repeated (usually in eighth notes), the bass becomes more percussive (help·info)."

this article is very accurated...specially the slap bass comment.

In the Mana songs i previously posted, the bass is just kicking ***, In the mana beast song for example.... there are few strings or guitars.. but the bass is the one who steals the show there.


In the boss theme... the bass is just kicking *** too.

The style of Ito, and the way he changes tempo in a song, remembers me a lot the rocking style of Dream theater. Listen the boss theme for example.. the drum beats resemble Mike Portnoy(dream theater)´s style.

 

[Y34HDUD3!!!]

Good music alright.....
This game is gettin better every second!

 

[Fawriel]

Hmmm, Hydde, Ito didn't work on Secret of Mana... that's Hiroki Kikuta, and unfortunately, he isn't in the team...
I love the SoM soundtrack as well. It had some true gems, especially the Flammie songs.. ESPECIALLY the one that plays when that island thing has been resurrected... hehe, been a while since I played.
Seiken Densetsu 3 is even more beautiful...

If you like the normal battle song... download this: http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01485/
Read the description and be amazed.
( Note: It's chip-tune-ish for the most part. But seriously, it's AMAZING. )


So, Chidosengan, I suggest that you replace the song for Kenji Ito with one of the songs GenG ( I think? ) gave, especially Pantheon - Four Kings Battle and Prelude of Fight, since the one you originally gave doesn't correspond to his general style and does nowhere near as well demonstrate his awesomeness.


EDIT: Oh, and while I'm at it, the Bomberman song is AWESOME!
I made my girlfriend very happy with it, too. She set it on repeat for, like, half an hour.

 

[SkyeYuki]

I found it rather funny that there was an H-game listed in one of the composers' works on the SSBB site. Hehe.

 

[GenG]

Pantheon of Fight is undoubtly the most popular Ito's piece (has a lot of fan remixes for example). It's a good example of Ito's perfomance.

 

[Darkfur]

I still think the best one on there is Yoko Shimomura. Her music has astounded me for a long time. All of her battle music has been great through the years as well, so I have no doubt she'll be doing great stuff for Brawl.

Ps. SkyeYuki, check your PMs.

 

[Kelp Plankton]

I wonder if this type of massive list of contributors will be seen for any other parts of the game, like artwork or sound effects. Voice acting, definitely, that's always required with a cast this varied... but.

 

[Chidosengan]

Ok so I changed Ito's sample song to "Prelude of Fight" like everyone suggested. I guess it represents his style better.

Btw any leads to Yusuke Takahama?

 

[Charzendat]

I wonder if this type of massive list of contributors will be seen for any other parts of the game, like artwork or sound effects. Voice acting, definitely, that's always required with a cast this varied... but.

It is possible that they got in a guy who designed Link for Twilight Princess to help them with the SSBB model. And the same with other characters to. Although with music they are actually getting these people to make the music. I can't see that happening with game graphics.

 

[Hydde]

Hmmm, Hydde, Ito didn't work on Secret of Mana... that's Hiroki Kikuta, and unfortunately, he isn't in the team...
I love the SoM soundtrack as well. It had some true gems, especially the Flammie songs.. ESPECIALLY the one that plays when that island thing has been resurrected... hehe, been a while since I played.
Seiken Densetsu 3 is even more beautiful...

If you like the normal battle song... download this: http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01485/
Read the description and be amazed.
( Note: It's chip-tune-ish for the most part. But seriously, it's AMAZING. )


So, Chidosengan, I suggest that you replace the song for Kenji Ito with one of the songs GenG ( I think? ) gave, especially Pantheon - Four Kings Battle and Prelude of Fight, since the one you originally gave doesn't correspond to his general style and does nowhere near as well demonstrate his awesomeness.


EDIT: Oh, and while I'm at it, the Bomberman song is AWESOME!
I made my girlfriend very happy with it, too. She set it on repeat for, like, half an hour.

oh my i messed up big time there..... it was because some guys were talking about the SoM bgms and i tho that the composer was there. In fact is hiroki Kikuta the one of secret of mana!!

ah geeez what let down =,,,,(


and yeah... the song u are talking about, the one when the island arise form the ocean, is called "last flight" or something. One guy from OC remix,,,(dont remember the name right now) did the most memorable remix of that song,,,, u must listen to it.... is so beautiful, it even have lyrics.... and really good ones.

 

[Fawriel]

Hehe, I knew that song already... http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01404/ There it goes for the others. It's truly beautiful indeed, only letdown is that the singer seems maybe a little inexperienced, but the rest is just great.
I hope this doesn't count as spamming.. it's totally relevant, I swear. D=

By the way, is the whole soundtrack of Luigi's Mansion that groovy? I might have to yoink it if that's the case.

 

[Hydde]

Hehe, I knew that song already... http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01404/ There it goes for the others. It's truly beautiful indeed, only letdown is that the singer seems maybe a little inexperienced, but the rest is just great.
I hope this doesn't count as spamming.. it's totally relevant, I swear. D=

By the way, is the whole soundtrack of Luigi's Mansion that groovy? I might have to yoink it if that's the case.

ah nice youknew it Xd, yes the singer seems inexperienced but i think im one fo the ew who thinks that he did quite well in the singing. well who cares Xd the acoustic guitar in that song is beautifull XD.


hye it seems that u frequent a lot that site.... just by curioisity... do you go to dwelling of duels too?

 

[lanky_gunner]

i'm excited about the composers. upon hearing the menu 1 song from melee, i was really happy and looked forward to what other songs will sound like. and it is awesome we get composers from square enix, capcom, sega, and konami. one thing i found interesting was there was 2 composers from grasshopper, which i know made the game killer 7, so i wonder what the music they make will sound like. maybe that creepy vibe the game always has

 

[Devastlian]

Ya know, back when the Contribution Fist was being updated on the old Japanese website, Mr. Sakurai posted people's music requests so maybe some of those will be the "elite selections" that he speaks of. Too bad nobody ever translated all of those. :/ There were some good ones from what I remember from glancing over it with Excite.

 

[Hydde]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NWAIt3OeN9M
^. a demonstration of a boss fight in the game with the song Pain The Universe. It's the BEST **** BOSS BATTLE SONG IN EXISTENCE. I don't know how to find a downloadable version of appropriate quality, but... wow.

QUOTE]

Remember the site i was mentioning you about earlier?

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/nov05/03 - SnappleMan - Mana - With Real Potato Flavor.mp3


Just enjoy


the guys in this site just rock!!

 

[Hydde]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NWAIt3OeN9M
^. a demonstration of a boss fight in the game with the song Pain The Universe. It's the BEST **** BOSS BATTLE SONG IN EXISTENCE. I don't know how to find a downloadable version of appropriate quality, but... wow.

If Brawl has any songs like this, I'll cry.
And contrary to popular belief, that's a rare sight.

Remember the site i was mentioning you about earlier?

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/nov05/03 - SnappleMan - Mana - With Real Potato Flavor.mp3


Just enjoy


the guys in this site simply rock!!

PD: btw the song remix is renamed "with real potato flavor", dont know why XD

 

[Darkfur]

Now that topics are being stickied again, this one should be!

 

[SkyeYuki]

You know what would be awesome? If all this was a late April Fools joke, and every song in the game was done by Journey.

 

[Darkfur]

I'd probably comit Seppuku. X_X (And I'm not even a Samurai.)

 

[SkyeYuki]

Behold the power of Journey.