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[DtJ Jungle]

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So thats 13 colors used
out of 40.

 

[Azua]

ones that are similar should be considered used

 

[uhmuzing]

I think it has to do with the groups being a public-type membership or not. Could just have to do with individual permissions for each group.

Alright, thanks. Just curious.

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So thats 13 colors used
out of 40.

You forgot Premium Pranked.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Thought i was forgetting one.

 

[nube]

I've never really written long posts before, but I plan to write a large guide very soon, so I want to know:

-is there a character limit for posts? The first post will be extremely huge.

-how do I use the show/hide feature? This would really help with organizing the guide.

-is there a way to make a picture show up smaller when I insert an image? I will use many images, but if they are too big, they really start to get in the way of the information. I use ImageShack for uploading btw.

I hope I'm in the right forum for this. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I don't believe that there is a character limit. Look at all character guides. Some are incredibly huge.

use [collapse=whatever] then {/collapse]

the only way to make an image smalelr is to do it yourself offline then upload it as a smaller image.

 

[nube]

Thanks for the quick reply.

testing show/hide:

[collapse=TITLE] info info info info info [/collapse]

edit: it works! thanks!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

No problem, check the melee falco guide for reference to see how big a post can be. its freaking huge

 

[KAOSTAR]

I thought the limit was ten k for a post.

but if it is, how does the collapse box affect character count?

same question with pictures?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Thought i was forgetting one.

Thee's also Heimie, though I don't know if that counts.

 

[Lythium]

Hiemie is not part of usergroup. Hiemie is a usergroup.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Well, the black-name "usergroup".

Has anyone thought of adding a bot filter?

 

[Zatchiel]

Has anyone thought of adding a bot filter?

How are we supposed to know that a new member just came on Smashboards to Advertise, Spam, and/or Troll?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

How are we supposed to know that a new member just came on Smashboards to Advertise, Spam, and/or Troll?

Because you can tell what's a bot and what's not.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Do tell how to do such a thing.

 

[Zatchiel]

Because you can tell what's a bot and what's not.

Not really. I've seen many usernames that you would think to be an everyday user, Attempting to point out someone you think is a troll or bot and it turns out to be a normal member makes you look stupid, and in some cases, it's a bit prejudicial, especially if they get banned by an assumption.

 

[Lythium]

I think what Dark Horse is suggesting is that we implement something like this:

Even so, that's not foolproof for stopping bots. It also may not load properly for certain users.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

This is a guess, but if you go to some suspected-of-being-a-bot's profile, the would only be the statistics. No "about me", no "contact", no everything else.

I think what Dark Horse is suggesting is that we implement something like this:

Even so, that's not foolproof for stopping bots. It also may not load properly for certain users.

Yes, that's what I was talking about.

Even though, it might be fool proof, it's better than just nothing.

And why doesn't it load properly on some peoples computers?

 

[Zatchiel]

I think what Dark Horse is suggesting is that we implement something like this:

Even so, that's not foolproof for stopping bots. It also may not load properly for certain users.

A Capacha(<--Spell check) Word Processing station won't really help us out with the trolls and such, but as for Spam Bots, it's something.

This is a guess, but if you go to some suspected-of-being-a-bot's profile, the would only be the statistics. No "about me", no "contact", no everything else.

Wrong, i know lots of members that don't add anything to their profiles, not even an avatar, and they turn out to be everyday newcomers.



Yes, that's what I was talking about.

Even though, it might be fool proof, it's better than just nothing.

And why doesn't it load properly on some peoples computers?

Again, it may prevent Spam Bots, but it won't keep us from getting the actually people that just join to troll, even the accounts that there is a human controlling the Advertisement, and actually registering themselves by filling in every selected field of Registration.

In Blue.

 

[Lythium]

Some people have weird browser settings that may not allow the image to load. Besides, bots are pretty much banned immediately anyway, and as far as I can tell, we get them pretty rarely.

Plus, it would probably mean another huge vBulletin update to implement this.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I think what Dark Horse is suggesting is that we implement something like this:

Even so, that's not foolproof for stopping bots. It also may not load properly for certain users.

huh, thought we had one of those.

And you can't stop human members from trolling, obviously. LP he said BOT filter not TROLL filter.

Only SWF staff is supposed to be answering questions. Why is this such a hard rule to follow?

@Kaostar: that's...a good question. i can only imagine that it would still affect the character count as it would without the collapse tags, i'll ask though.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Lucas, we obviously cannot know who the trolls will be, it's better to deal with them as they come.

I don't think Dark Horse is talking about trolls, but bots.

Argh double ninja'd.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Wrong, i know lots of members that don't add anything to their profiles, not even an avatar, and they turn out to be everyday newcomers.

But i'm pretty sure every human user has a contact page (where you can chose to VM or PM them)

Some people have weird browser settings that may not allow the image to load. Besides, bots are pretty much banned immediately anyway, and as far as I can tell, we get them pretty rarely.

But wouldn't it be better to stop them before they can do anything?


LP, i'm talking about bots, not trolls.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

You can choose not to put your contact information on that page.

 

[Lythium]

Every user has a contact page. Period. Regardless of whether they are a bot.

New members can't use VMs anyway, so the point is moot.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Every user has a contact page. Period. Regardless of whether they are a bot.

Then what about this guy?

And this guy?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I believe that only happens when someone is super banned for being an adbot.

 

[Zatchiel]

I don't think Dark Horse is talking about trolls, but bots.

I knew this already, but he's not explaining clear enough.
I get that Bots sign up automatically, with no input, but what about the humans that go through the time to sign up, copy paste advertisement and such?

But i'm pretty sure every human user has a contact page (where you can chose to VM or PM them)


But wouldn't it be better to stop them before they can do anything?

I don't understand what you mean, because every user has a contact page.
New members don't have immediately active VMs, but that's no reason to segregate them out by that fact.

Every user has a contact page. Period. Regardless of whether they are a bot.

New members can't use VMs anyway, so the point is moot.

This. Your contact page and such are disabled on your terms, or a Super Ban.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

You can't stop humans that sign up manually. The best you can do is infract them for their advertisement. Humans can go through any sort of security you can have to sign up for a forum, since it isn't made to be that difficult.

 

[Lythium]

Then what about this guy?

And this guy?

You can't PM/VM anyone who's been Super Banned. So, what's your point?

The contact page is stuff that the user adds. IM screen names, websites, etc.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Man, lythium knows so much more than i do

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I knew this already, but he's not explaining clear enough.
I get that Bots sign up automatically, with no input, but what about the humans that go through the time to sign up, copy paste advertisement and such?

What kind of company does that?

This. Your contact page and such are disabled on your terms, or a Super Ban.

My bad, didn't know. However, that doesn't defeat the purpose of a bot filter.

 

[Zatchiel]

You can't stop humans that sign up manually. The best you can do is infract them for their advertisement. Humans can go through any sort of security you can have to sign up for a forum, since it isn't made to be that difficult.

This is exactly what i wanted him to know.

Bots can be blocked, Human users can bypass any security we throw at them, provided it's fair and legit.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Guys, this point is moot. Yes, we can add things like the cache to stop adbots. This can be brought up with admins and what they do with it is up to them. We cannot stop human members from manually coming and advertising something. End of story.

LP he wasn't talking about HUMANS he was talking about BOTS man.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@"well, it could be humans"

Bot are much more likley than humans. I haven't heard of anything that uses humans to log in.

@mark

So is there at least a chance a bot filter could be added?

 

[Lythium]

That would be up to an admin to pass it along to MLG, and MLG would decide if they wanted to upgrade the site to support bot filters.

Now, you kids settle down.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I suggested it to an admin. Done all we can for now.

 

[Zatchiel]

LP he wasn't talking about HUMANS he was talking about BOTS man.

Then adding a Cache is all that is necessary.
After that, it's up to you to figure out what the companies are going to try to advertise their products on the largest Smash Brothers Forums in history.

I haven't heard of anything that uses humans to log in.

You aren't searching hard enough.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

What's your suggestion then

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

You aren't searching hard enough.

Show me an example.