Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Arymle Roseanne]

Digimon Adventure and Smash 20th Aniversary?
Oh. Imagine that.

Just a coincidence, it won't lead to anything most likely.

 

[Idon]

Has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...sh_bros_ultimate_leaked_on_japanese_textboard

We've been discussing it for the last few pages.
It seems plausible, but being a 5ch post is the main thing going against it currently.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Digimon Adventure and Smash 20th Aniversary?
Oh. Imagine that.

And yet Banjo wasn't revealed at the Game Awards for his 20th Anniversary.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...sh_bros_ultimate_leaked_on_japanese_textboard

It has, but I'd rather not believe it because Mementos is maybe the worst possible choice of P5 stage.

 

[Deleted member]

Has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...sh_bros_ultimate_leaked_on_japanese_textboard

You have no idea how much it weirds me out that futaba is called 5chan now.

 

[Luigi The President]

Has anyone posted this yet?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...sh_bros_ultimate_leaked_on_japanese_textboard

None of you can register the sadness and outrage I feel that we let this stupid ass leak make its way onto any site

 

[Noah]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

 

[Noipoi]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

He's gonna be Bayo 2. So obnoxiously top tier he becomes the bane of everyone's existence.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

If he ends up being top tier, you can expect people to call out on pay to win shtick.

 

[Noah]

He's gonna be Bayo 2. So obnoxiously top tier he becomes the bane of everyone's existence.

Yeah I imagine great recovery, maybe busted projectiles, insane combos and I swear to god if they make a duo character with him and his persona

 

[Noah]

If he ends up being top tier, you can expect people to call out on pay to win shtick.

I hope he’s top tier just not busted and not fun to play or play against

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Yeah I imagine great recovery, maybe busted projectiles, insane combos and I swear to god if they make a duo character with him and his persona

Just reading all that gives me Vietnam flashbacks from Smash 4 Bayo.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

None of you can register the sadness and outrage I feel that we let this stupid *** leak make its way onto any site

It's not really stupid though. Like, it makes sense. While the GranBlue Fighting game had been hinted at by Hitagi, P5A's development being halted because of that is a new point. Additionally, it makes sense, similar to how the Geno and Sephiroth thing made sense. If I recall correctly, it lines up with things that xenother and Hitagi had heard from their sources, which makes it even more suspect.

Who'd have thought that a real leak would come from 5chan?

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

Depends on what his moveset is. I think he'll definitely be good though.

 

[Cheryl~]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

Not sure what abilities he has in Persona 5 but I expect some busted stuff to come out of him. Maybe he'll just steal everyone's hearts for a nice 0-death combo! (God no please no not that again Sakurai...)

 

[ClaTheBae]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

the two things that determine if a character is good or not are

1. if they are fast with fast moves. they don't even need kill power, just mobility

or

2. if they have one stupid feature about them that makes them better than all the mediocre characters (ie bayonetta's combo potential, k rool's belly armor, etc)

 

[Noah]

Just reading all that gives me Vietnam flashbacks from Smash 4 Bayo.

I hope that’s not Sakurais goal
“Let’s give them all Nam flash blacks”

 

[Idon]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

Well he's by and large the most agile megaten character and agility usually correlates strongly to being top tier.

 

[Luigi The President]

It's not really stupid though. Like, it makes sense. While the GranBlue Fighting game had been hinted at by Hitagi, P5A's development being halted because of that is a new point. Additionally, it makes sense, similar to how the Geno and Sephiroth thing made sense. If I recall correctly, it lines up with things that xenother and Hitagi had heard from their sources, which makes it even more suspect.

Who'd have thought that a real leak would come from 5chan?

Remember how a big point for the Grinch leak was that it made sense?
It connected things and wrapped it all together? And...then look at what happened with that.
And the example you bought up as well is dead in the water, but I do see why you bought it up.

The only thing this leak has going for it is P5A's development being halted. Which is unconfirmed nor implied as far as I can tell.
Wouldn't even make sense for that to happen-P5A is developed by another "team" then the one developing the GBF fighter.

 

[Noah]

the two things that determine if a character is good or not are

1. if they are fast with fast moves. they don't even need kill power, just mobility

or

2. if they have one stupid feature about them that makes them better than all the mediocre characters (ie bayonetta's combo potential, k rool's belly armor, etc)

He might have a broken persona duo but until gameplay comes out, it’s only speculation

 

[Deleted member]

Does anyone else think Joker will be high tier-top tier

DLC characters in fighting games generally have to be good, or at least decent. There are exceptions of course though

 

[Noah]

Well he's by and large the most agile megaten character and agility usually correlates strongly to being top tier.

True, just giving more reasons he probably will be

 

[xAquaCrystal]

Going by that leak saying Joker will get a Mementos stage would be disappointing. I would rather prefer the casino stage and have a remixed Whims of Fate song playing in the background. Plus it will be just cool having a colorful casino like stage in smash.

 

[Double K]

Well he's by and large the most agile megaten character and agility usually correlates strongly to being top tier.

Did Joker show anything that could correlate to a decent recover? Like, I know he has his pistols, curse magic and dagger, but what about Arsene would let him recover? Wasn't the grappling hook PAnther's thing?

 

[Noah]

Did Joker show anything that could correlate to a decent recover? Like, I know he has his pistols, curse magic and dagger, but what about Arsene would let him recover? Wasn't the grappling hook PAnther's thing?

Sakurai will find a way to make him busted

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Going by that leak saying Joker will get a Mementos stage would be disappointing. I would rather prefer the casino stage and have a remixed Whims of Fate song playing in the background. Plus it will be just cool having a colorful casino like stage in smash.

Yeah, honestly Mementos is quite bland compared to other potential stages like the Casino.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

im good with a Mementos stage, I'll just be happy Joker exsists

 

[Knight Dude]

So...I got cast to voice in a horror video game...I'm pretty happy...

Spoiler: The character I voice

Congrats dude!

Going by that leak saying Joker will get a Mementos stage would be disappointing. I would rather prefer the casino stage and have a remixed Whims of Fate song playing in the background. Plus it will be just cool having a colorful casino like stage in smash.

Considering the second Sonic stage isn't like that, it would be nice. I guess SEGA's got great Casino stages, and if they don't they buy the companies that do.

 

[Noah]

Imagine Killia from Disgaea 5 in smash

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Remember how a big point for the Grinch leak was that it made sense?
It connected things and wrapped it all together? And...then look at what happened with that.
And the example you bought up as well is dead in the water, but I do see why you bought it up.

The only thing this leak has going for it is P5A's development being halted. Which is unconfirmed nor implied as far as I can tell.
Wouldn't even make sense for that to happen-P5A is developed by another "team" then the one developing the GBF fighter.

You see, I would agree with you about the Grinch hoax, but I had it pegged as fake from the start. Why? Because it was dissonant with already known information (Ken and Incineroar) and the points for it were loosely connected at best. Comparatively, there's nothing really conflicting with this one.

As always, I'm not saying to take it as gospel, but I would heavily consider it and prepare myself for it being true.

Erdrick reveal in T-Minus 5 days?

 

[Double K]

Imagine Killia from Disgaea 5 in smash

that sounds awful, because Killia was the worst character in the worst Disgaea

 

[Luigi The President]

You see, I would agree with you about the Grinch hoax, but I had it pegged as fake from the start. Why? Because it was dissonant with already known information (Ken and Incineroar) and the points for it were loosely connected at best. Comparatively, there's nothing really conflicting with this one.

As always, I'm not saying to take it as gospel, but I would HEAVILY consider it to be true.

Nothing conflicts with it, but nothing's really going for it.
It uses something we've known about for over a month, and the P5A being halted tidbit is completely unconfirmed from what I know nor does it make sense by what I said.

I totally get why you feel this way TPC, but for me it's just on the same level as the typical 4Chan leak that we can't really deconfirm for a month because there's no real way how. But that's just us disagreeing, which is the beauty of our debates.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

that sounds awful, because Killia was the worst character in the worst Disgaea

Imagine Killia from Disgaea 5 in smash

as cool as Killia would be, Christo is a far better character

 

[Dee Dude]

If it’s a Japanese leak then I think it could be pretty legit, leaks are common here in the West because our internet is full of attention seeking trolls with BS claims.

Now I ain’t saying there’s no internet trolls in Japan but this ain’t the first time something Smash related got leaked in Japan. (etc)

That said, I’ll try to take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Double K]

as cool as Killia would be, Christo is a far better character

Yeah, him, Usalia and RED MAGNUS were the best parts

but the game undoing the entire main plot through the post game and retconning a bunch of **** pissed me off. Killia is also zzz and Seraphina learned nothing from her arc.

If you'd bring any NIS character, bring in Laharl since he gets brought back in every Disgaea, has a cool moveset and also a bunch of other things going for him

 

[Luigi The President]

If it’s a Japanese leak then I think it could be pretty legit, leaks are common here in the West because our internet is full of attention seeking trolls with BS claims.

Now I ain’t saying there’s no internet trolls in Japan but this ain’t the first time something Smash related got leaked in Japan. (etc)

That said, I’ll try to take it with a grain of salt.

Don't quite understand. Lucario and Ganondorf were leaked by official Nintendo footage. This is just a text leak.

 

[Idon]

Did Joker show anything that could correlate to a decent recover? Like, I know he has his pistols, curse magic and dagger, but what about Arsene would let him recover? Wasn't the grappling hook PAnther's thing?

Well usually he turns into that cartoonish black shadow thing when he leaps so that may be how he recovers. Arsense as well has wings and could possibly help him recover. Also his whole chain motif could be used. Going more out there, there's also Futaba's teleportation of the crew.

 

[Deleted member]

Just got to Galeem. Wow that fight was a bit of a pushover. Maybe I’m just using too good spirits.
Also does anybody know how to get past that gate in the city area? It’s loterally the only thing I havent done in the map.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Just got to Galeem. Wow that fight was a bit of a pushover. Maybe I’m just using too good spirits.
Also does anybody know how to get past that gate in the city area? It’s loterally the only thing I havent done in the map.

There is a power plant nearby the city. You can get there via the forest.

 

[LetterO]

Wasn't Hitagi already saying that we'd get a Granblue fighting game? Couldn't the 5chan leak just be riding off of that and have gotten a lucky guess?

 

[Deleted member]

There is a power plant nearby the city. You can get there via the forest.

I did the power plant but it doesn’t seem to provide any access to the spirit past the gate.
Edit never mind I’m an idiot lol