Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CrusherMania1592]

I'd remove Chrom and Corrin because I don't like them and replace the two with Celica and Elm


But hey what do I know about Smash anyway?

 

[Nekoo]

Smash can contribute to a character's popularity you know...

That would mean that
33k and 29k so around 60k of players were mostly Smash fans who voted Roy and Ike.
Counter point being that Lyn and Lucina were both winner in the girls side.

 

[Zeox]

sign my petition to get both in

Ok you convinced me.

 

[Deleted member]

If I had to cut a FE character, I'd cut K. Rool without a second thought.

 

[Idon]

"Marth without tippers" is objectively a major difference from Marth in terms of serious, competitive play though. It goes so far that even pros like Zero main her over Marth because of the consistency. Such a minor change is actually a major difference between her and her base. Both you and your opponent can change your entire playstyle when Lucina is in play vs when Marth is in play

It's a major difference that still makes her have far less variance than every other Marth variant and most other clones.

And besides that wasn't the point, Marth -potential reward +consistency is still incredibly lame of a character concept.
Imagine if Ken was just "Ryu but with no command inputs." which while providing technically a different albeit extremely similar style of play, is still really uninteresting.

 

[SquashiniKun]

A few pages back i heard that Duon might be one of the DLC Characters. Info pls?

 

[kirbsmash]

If we're talking about cutting FE characters, I'd cut Corrin in a heartbeat.

No, seriously.

Why? Is he/she that bad of character? I meant, I'm pretty sure they could do better with them.

 

[Bionichute]

A few pages back i heard that Duon might be one of the DLC Characters. Info pls?

jokes clown

 

[Deleted member]

It's a major difference that still makes her have far less variance than every other Marth variant and most other clones.
And besides that wasn't the point, Marth -potential reward +consistency is still incredibly lame of a character concept. Imagine if Ken was just "Ryu but with no command inputs." which while providing technically a different style of play, is still really uninteresting.

You do you, I think Ken not having command inputs but moves that are stronger then Ryu's no command input moves but weaker then Ryu's command input moves would actually be really interesting to see how it affects the meta. To each their own.

 

[Zeox]

If I had to cut a FE character, I'd cut K. Rool without a second thought.

Oh you just didn't go there!!
...
No wait...
...
You actually did just go there, nevermind I was wrong, sorry.

 

[Idon]

Why? Is he/she that bad of character? I meant, I'm pretty sure they could do better with them.

Because Corrin's character sucks and I'd rather not have him in anything I touch.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

The amount of people wanting to cut my boi Roy is disturbing


Fite mah

 

[Impa4Smash]

Get rid of one of the only two Fire Emblem characters who got in through fan demand and not immediate relevance, and the literal main character of Awakening.

Makes total sense.

Wait. Who was the second one? Ike?

 

[Deleted member]

Celica and Elm

You asked for this

New ship guyz

 

[Idon]

Wait. Who was the second one? Ike?

I believe it was probably the Roy outcry from the Melee fans during the Brawl-Smash 4 era.

 

[Seine]

Stop sleeping

oh

Lyn will stay in Smash...but will be a costume at worst and a mere spirit at best

K I’ll stop sleeping

 

[LetterO]

Okay, what if I cut Corrin and replace him with Fredrick. On one hand thats 4 characters from Awakening. But also we get Fredrick.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Okay, what if I cut Corrin and replace him with Fredrick. On one hand thats 4 characters from Awakening. But also we get Fredrick.

Then people will complain about Awakening being overrepped


It's a never ending lose-lose scernio for the FE fans

 

[SquashiniKun]

Going a bit off topic here, How would you guys react if we get teasers for the other characters in the fighter pass at the VGAs, like what Tekken 7 did?

 

[Impa4Smash]

Corrin isn’t even the best choice for a Fates Rep, let alone a FE rep. The real choice

 

[PsySmasher]

That would mean that
33k and 29k so around 60k of players were mostly Smash fans who voted Roy and Ike.
Counter point being that Lyn and Lucina were both winner in the girls side.

-Ike was still extremely popular, even outside of Smash. He's honestly one of the most, if not the most, well-received FE characters in both FE and Smash.
-Lyn obviously is the big outlier in all of this, as you mentioned. Literally the most popular FE character (you could make the debate of Lyn vs Ike, buy I'm not going into that). And she doesn't have Smash to thank for that.
-Lucina was still one of the most popular characters from Awakening, even within the FE community.
-Roy is very popular among the Smash community, but in the FE community, it's MUCH more divisive. People either love him or outright hate him.

 

[Idon]

Okay, what if I cut Corrin and replace him with Fredrick. On one hand thats 4 characters from Awakening. But also we get Fredrick.

Name 5 words that Frederick has said in his life that aren't "Pick a god and pray."

 

[Luigifan18]

Why? Is he/she that bad of character? I meant, I'm pretty sure they could do better with them.

Oh, they could do much worse. Like Glass, the mercenary who boasts that his swordplay intimidates the gods, and is promptly bodied by a 15 18-year-old girl.

 

[Graizen]

I kinda hope one of the DLC characters is Agumon, even if is impossible.
Not because I love Digimon, not because is a very important part of my childhood, not because anything, but for the small, minuscule, ridiculous impossible chance that it will come with the theme "Butterfly".

Is just too good, ok?

Yeah , maybe...

 

[ClaTheBae]

for the dlc characters we're gonna get silhouettes again just like the first trailer screencap this

oh it's that one guy

 

[monadoboy]

Cutting FE characters?
I can't choose tbh
Anyone I think of feels like shooting myself on the foot
Can't cut Lucina 'cause she's my favorite, can't cut Marth and Ike because I love them and they're too iconic. I like Roy and love how he plays now. Robin is very unique not only among the FE cast but overall, Corrin, as much as I dislike them in Fates, is also fun and unique. Can't cut Chrom because he got his chance and he looks like he'll be amazing.

But add? Give me Celica, Micaiah, Fjorm, Eldegard, Lyn, Hector, Alm... (and the list goes on)

 

[Idon]

Oh, they could do much worse. Like Glass, the mercenary who boasts that his swordplay intimidates the gods, and is promptly bodied by a 15 18-year-old girl.

Don't underestimate 18 year old girls in Japan.

They've got the power of friendship and more importantly plot armor to tear through anything.
In fact I'm pretty sure that's the premise of Sailor Moon.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Name 5 words that Frederick has said in his life that aren't "Pick a god and pray."

Implying he needs to say anything else

 

[Luigifan18]

Don't underestimate 18 year old girls in Japan.

They've got the power of friendship and more importantly plot armor to tear through anything.
In fact I'm pretty sure that's the premise of Sailor Moon.

She's 15 in Japan...

 

[praline]

She's 15 in Japan...

She’s 13 actually.

 

[T3Z3R1]

Now for day 3!

【あと3日】
『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ SPECIAL』発売まで、あと3日となりました。
ワタクシも、イラストにだけ特別に登場させていただきましたよ。『ファイアーエムブレム』のヒーローさん達も、いまからワクワクが止まらないようです♪#スマブラカウントダウン #スマブラSP #FEヒーローズ pic.twitter.com/wg8kybXyFa

— ファイアーエムブレム ヒーローズ (@FE_Heroes_JP) December 4, 2018

This is fitting, given the current discussion ^here

【あと3日】レッツ ダンス ボーイズ💋

12月7日発売の『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ SPECIAL』に、我らが最強魔女ベヨネッタに続いて、魔界の名工ロダンもアシストフィギュアとして参戦します！イラストby @PG_y_hashimoto #ベヨネッタ #ベヨネッタ２#スマブラカウントダウン#スマブラSP #スマブラ pic.twitter.com/1jyIICgbf2

— プラチナゲームズ公式アカウント (@platinumgames_j) December 4, 2018

 

[PsySmasher]

Because Corrin's character sucks and I'd rather not have him in anything I touch.

Although I do like the overall design/concept of Corrin...

I do have to admit that his/her characterization in Fates was... lackluster, to say the least.

 

[Impa4Smash]

I would probably cut Corrin and Roy and replace them with Tiki (adult Tiki) and Ana (with her bow as main weapon).

I like Lucina, Ike, Robin, and Chrom too much to get rid of. And Marth is essential

 

[Idon]

She’s 13 actually.

BenjaLyn Button

 

[kirbsmash]

Could anybody tell me, without bias, why Corrin is a bad character? Anybody.

 

[Phobos_Anomaly]

So instead of wishing characters from a franchise to be cut that are already in the game why don't we discuss adding characters to any particular franchise that's considered severely underrepresented?

F-Zero for example. Would they ever add anyone else from that series? If ever?

 

[Luigi The President]

Could anybody tell me, without bias, why Corrin is a bad character? Anybody.

Define what you're saying here.
Moveset-wise? Character-wise?

 

[Impa4Smash]

Could anybody tell me, without bias, why Corrin is a bad character? Anybody.

He/she is just bland to me. They don’t have a personality like Robin did as the avatar. Also, depending on what game you play they are very naive with no real arc. Most of the characters in Fates are better then them also.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Name 5 words that Frederick has said in his life that aren't "Pick a god and pray."

Milord
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[Bionichute]

So instead of wishing characters from a franchise to be cut that are already in the game why don't we discuss adding characters to any particular franchise that's considered severely underrepresented?

F-Zero for example. Would they ever add anyone else from that series? If ever?

black shadow as a falcon echo. just do it already