Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Royalty1702]

Predictions:
- DQ Rep (They were likely before, they are even more now)

- Dee (Really popular and if Nintendo has access to the official ballot and Dee scored high (which he likely did), they would probably pick him because Waddle Dees (as a species) are iconic, marketable (in Japan) and used in a lot of promotional art, along with BWD)

- Rayman (he's a lock in my book, since Ubisoft and Nintendo are buddies now and Rabbids made it as a spirit)

- King Boo (gotta get that Luigi's Mansion promotion)

- Insert Microsoft character here

 

[IceKitsune]

Unless the N64 classic doesn't feature Banjo Kazooie

Given how good of a relationship Nintendo and Microsoft have right now with the crossplay stuff and everything, I would find that unlikely. (and yes I get you're joking)

 

[Koopaul]

I think my reservation comes from the fact that I hate commercials and people trying to push products on me. Nintendo choosing the characters is at best innocent advertisements and just screams manipulative to me.

I hate crap like that. If it is product placement, I will not buy it.

I feel like what makes it worse is that they seem to only advertise certain things. And not others. Like why choose to advertise Corrin when they could have advertise another Nintendo title?

Atleast with fan favorites, classic icons, or strange surprises there is a little bit more fairness in who gets in. Nintendo is basically choosing for us what is the hot new Nintendo game we all should love. And for some reason it's always a Fire Emblem character.

I think perhaps I would be a little more sympathetic if the promotional character was from a game that wasn't doing too well and need a little push. Like Chibi-Robo.

 

[Deleted member]

I really don't understand why people would put Sylux as a possible newcomer. He's literally based on ONE BIG ASSUMPTION that's he's gonna be the main antagonist of Metroid Prime 4. We know nothing about that game yet he's somehow going to be relevant because Samus did a terrible job of offing the guy in Prime Hunters? That he had two cameo appearances and they're all leading up to Prime 4? What if he doesn't show up, or has a minuscule role? What then?

I remember people suggesting Sylux over Ridley like he was the next best thing to a Metroid newcomer if Ridley was never going to happen as a playable character. It's utterly baffling to me that Sylux, who has nothing but assumptions would somehow get in over Ridley. It's still baffling because he's all based on assumptions.

Sylux is the Boba Fett of Metroid

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate’s DLC line-up is now complete. This time the selection was made entirely by Nintendo. I decide if we can create a fighter based on their selection, then come up with the plan.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) November 6, 2018

This tweet gives me hope for characters that Sakurai wouldn't necessarily consider.

Wait, what? Since when have people considered Rhythm Heaven obscure?

I mean to be fair, Megamix got a digital only release in America while it got a physical releases everywhere else...
It just seems like it just doesn't do well in the States
(I am saying this as a Rhythm Heaven fan)

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Nintendo needs to stop getting into multiple peoples pants and dms

Sega, Capcom, Namco, maybe Konami/Square, Platinum, Wayforward, the new Dead Telltale, Ubisoft, Microsoft...Nintendo pimps out

Don't forget Yacht Club Games, which has Shovel Knight as an assist in Ultimate.

And WayForward, since they have that Shantae spirit.

Joking aside, something's going to be really amiss if Rayman isn't in the game as a Spirit.

Sylux is the Boba Fett of Metroid

>in before the Metroid Prime 4 bad guy turns out to be one of the other Hunters instead of him

 

[Enchess]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

 

[N3ON]

Didn't the Mii Costume come with Cloud, though?

Cloud may have been in development before the ballot ended, too, since unique fighters supposedly take a year to finish.

I am expecting a DQ character or Sora, though, if Nintendo's pool of characters for Sakurai to choose from didn't include Geno.

What I'm saying is the statement in question proves Sakurai was cognizant of Geno's popularity pre-ballot, still opted for Cloud (or at least Nintendo did), and even with the ballot, didn't include him. Now that we're back on to DLC, with Nintendo calling the shots, I believe the factors that got Cloud included over Geno last time, even though Geno was already known to be a very popular fan request, will once again cause favouritism towards the character with the wider appeal.

 

[TheCJBrine]

inb4 Nintendo's character pool included Sans and Sakurai chose him.

 

[Robertman2]

and all 5 will be 5 stars because hes just lucky like that

5 wrys

 

[Flyboy]

I really don't understand why people would put Sylux as a possible newcomer. He's literally based on ONE BIG ASSUMPTION that's he's gonna be the main antagonist of Metroid Prime 4. We know nothing about that game yet he's somehow going to be relevant because Samus did a terrible job of offing the guy in Prime Hunters? That he had two cameo appearances and they're all leading up to Prime 4? What if he doesn't show up, or has a minuscule role? What then?

I remember people suggesting Sylux over Ridley like he was the next best thing to a Metroid newcomer if Ridley was never going to happen as a playable character. It's utterly baffling to me that Sylux, who has nothing but assumptions would somehow get in over Ridley. It's still baffling because he's all based on assumptions.

Finally someone said it.

It's the same **** with Sceptile in that he's just kind of a relic from the old days where he got a burst of popularity based on trends or fan rules or "this guy is deconfirmed so I guess it has to be this guy". People just stuck with it because hey, we used to support this guy so let's throw him in, sure!

 

[Darkraid]

Okay, since the DLC is ready now, they're definitely gonna announce it shortly after or right before the launch. The only question is when? Sooner is better if they wanna get ahead of leakers before they figure things out.

They're not teady. They only just picked it

 

[Noipoi]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

Farewell, my friend.
See you on the flipside.

 

[FreeFox]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

Good luck and thanks for being part of the speculation cycle.

This speculation cycle keeps getting wilder and wilder. I just hope there will be surprises along the way.

 

[Jetsurge]

Why are people saying Edgelord and a gen 8 Pokemon will be in when it has already been established that dlc was decided too late for Rex?

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

I've said before that I'd like to see a Three Houses rep in as DLC, specifically Edelgard, but now that I think about it, Edelgard probably won't be a DLC character for Smash Ultimate. Sakurai did mention before that he was worried that FE was over-represented, and I'm sure he's aware of the backlash from the west after the reveal.

 

[Zinith]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

See ya, and thanks for the Boshi support

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

See you tomorrow

 

[drag0nscythe]

Actually, given Nintendo choose the DLC, does that mean the game rule is no longer valid?
Are we getting Goku?

 

[Idon]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

This happens to me like every Smash cycle.
And now I'm here, ****posting again.

 

[Koopaul]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate’s DLC line-up is now complete. This time the selection was made entirely by Nintendo. I decide if we can create a fighter based on their selection, then come up with the plan.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) November 6, 2018

This tweet gives me hope for characters that Sakurai wouldn't necessarily consider.

Why is Nintendo more trustworthy to deliver characters we want than Sakurai is?

If anything the list might just be a bunch of future Nintendo titles they want to advertise for. Games they don't even know players will like.

 

[IceKitsune]

They're not teady. They only just picked it

I could see them just showing five renders of the DLC characters as a teaser at the VGAs or something. It doesn't need to be trailers.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Predictions:
- DQ Rep (They were likely before, they are even more now)

- Dee (Really popular and if Nintendo has access to the official ballot and Dee scored high (which he likely did), they would probably pick him because Waddle Dees (as a species) are iconic, marketable and used in a lot of promotional art, along with BWD)

- Rayman (he's a lock in my book, since Ubisoft and Nintendo are buddies now and Rabbids made it as a spirit)

- King Boo (gotta get that Luigi's Mansion promotion)

- Insert Microsoft character here

It would be ironic if BWD wasn't picked of Sakurai's own volition. Overall, I'd be mighty fine with the former 4 scenarios.

They're not teady. They only just picked it

Right, back to the usual then.

 

[Untouch]

Why are people saying Edgelord and a gen 8 Pokemon will be in when it has already been established that dlc was decided too late for Rex?

Outside of the people who want these characters, just general obnoxious pessimism.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Wait, what? Since when have people considered Rhythm Heaven obscure?

It's much less popular outside of Japan.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Actually, given Nintendo choose the DLC, does that mean the game rule is no longer valid?
Are we getting Goku?

I'm gonna be extremely blunt with you. Goku in smash jokes have never been funny and never will be, and anyone who makes them come off to me as desperate for cheap laughs.

 

[P.Kat]

Well with Nintendo picking the characters, Ammy has less of a chance than before that's sad, but it just means I have another chance in wave 2. For now I'm eager to see what characters Nintendo chose. I'd be over the moon if any of them were Elma, Shantae, Sora, Rayman, or all of the four.

 

[Flyboy]

I am so ****ing giddy about Travis's chances now. If he gets in and Chibi Robo gets a Spirit and Costume, that's my Brawl most-wanteds both in.

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm gonna be extremely blunt with you. Goku in smash jokes have never been funny and never will be, and anyone who makes them come off to me as desperate for cheap laughs.

Lemme be real with u
Remember when you mocked teamfake LOL

 

[Starbound]

Don't know if it's been brought up yet, but today's song is Guile's Theme.

This soundtrack is legitimately the best in any video game I've played (or will play).

 

[blackghost]

i think that when we get the 5 there will be 4 clear Nintendo picks and one will be Sakurai's.

i don't believe we will see another wtf character. joke character dlc is a risk and not worth it. we will more than likely learn in a few years that PP was going to be in the base and time ran out.
people seem to forget that nintendo wants ultimate to be bigger in every way over 4. that includes dlc. if they go from Bayonetta, cloud, and ryu as dlc to something lesser it wont be well received by the general audience. i've said it before they want huge reponses internet crashing responses. every character doesnt have to do this but 3/5 need to imo.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Lemme be real with u
Remember when you mocked teamfake LOL

Remember when you believed in sassy geno LOL

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Nintendo is deciding the DLC? Yeah, I'm out. I don't see any road forward for Saki, Elma, Matthew, Mio, Lip, Mach Rider, or any of the other characters that would excited me. I might still buy it (I didn't for Sm4sh), but I don't see a point in speculation any more.

It's been cool, guys. I'm out.

Bye, have a good one...

 

[TheCJBrine]

We need Lancer Deltarune for that remix of his theme and "THE WORLD REVOLVING".

 

[Zinith]

Outside of the people who want these characters, just general obnoxious pessimism.

Which is why I keep suggesting Poochy. He's a pre-established character with a game coming up where he's VERY prominent in AND it's quite clear Nintendo loves the little guy regardless of what Sakurai thinks...

 

[Idon]

Remember when you believed in sassy geno LOL

There, now no one remembers anything.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

i think that when we get the 5 there will be 4 clear Nintendo picks and one will be Sakurai's.

i don't believe we will see another wtf character. joke character dlc is a risk and not worth it. we will more than likely learn in a few years that PP was going to be in the base and time ran out.
people seem to forget that nintendo wants ultimate to be bigger in every way over 4. that includes dlc. if they go from Bayonetta, cloud, and ryu as dlc to something lesser it wont be well received by the general audience. i've said it before they want huge reponses internet crashing responses. every character doesnt have to do this but 3/5 need to imo.

If we wanna get technical, piranha plant can be considered dlc, sooo

 

[Luigi The President]

Remember when you believed in sassy geno LOL

Ackshually if you knew **** you'd know I never once stated Sassy Geno was real, only defended it.
You on the other hand told me multiple times to just accept the leak was real

So, I'm not sure why you should have any authority on Goku jokes. Which are pretty freaking funny if done right. And that also seemed to be a genuine question on drag0n's hand.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Remember when you believed in sassy geno LOL

Okay, Luigi The President and J JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL I recommend stopping this before it gets out of hand...
I can already see some trouble brewing...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I unironically want King Boo, Luigi needs a nemesis and at least he'd have a sensical reason to use a tongue.