Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[murdokdracul]

Here is all the color/skins in ultimate

Shiny Incineroar, Spiky-Eared Pichu, Dark Young Link, Dark Meta Knight and Galacta Knight are some notable ones.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Wasn't there a Brawl mod with like a hundred characters?



Venus, are you okay?

I’m more than ok...I’m

Spoiler: click to reveal how I am currently doing

And slightly drunk. Maybe I should give the man my booze money too

On topic,

I'm working on a better version, cause this one looks like garbage, but here's a version with Sora added
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That reminds me that I should also update my roster soon-ish.

I do think that on top of the five newcomer DLC, we have a good possibility of 2-4 Echoes as single DLC much like how PP will be managed.

I have a question, I know Sora is our new speculation poster boy but why? Is there a leak about him? Is it cause Geno was kinda deconfirmed? Anything besides Verge saying “there’s another SE rep?”

 

[RoysOurBoy]

i have reason to believe that all 5 of the DLC characters are going to be third party characters and here’s why.

I believe that the licensing and contracts for these characters was done 2015/2016. I think Rex would have been prioritized over any first party character had the planned DLC been first party. If these characters were third party, Sakurai would be legally obligated to develop these characters for DLC. This makes sense to me especially since they haven’t started development yet. That’s why they made a special point to include ARMS/Xenoblade 2 content in anyway they could to appease us for not being able to add them because of their contracts with the third party companies.

Also 3/4 newcomer DLC in smash 4 was third party so the math makes sense. Plus with Simon + Richter being the only new third party representation, I could totally see them being DLC. Especially since companies will want in on that DLC money. I’d expect Square, Microsoft, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Capcom, Activision, Namco and other third parties to want to jump in on the action.

Basically, I won’t believe we’ll get first party DLC (besides Pirahna Plant), until I see it.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Seriously why does some people assuming a season 2?

I’m asking this because Sakurai stated dlc ends in February 2020 and the fifth one will be finished at that time.
(Atleast I think that’s what he said.J

 

[osby]

DLC predictions:

1) Minecancer Steve

Mature.

2) Heiachi

It's certainly possible, I'd like to see him.

3) Fire Emblem 3 Houses Lead Character previously unseen

Didn't we saw him though? He's name is Byleth. Don't know how he's possible if Rex and Spring Man weren't but okay.

4) Geno
5) Maybe Banjo

That feels like wishful thinking at this point, but it would be nice. Though not sure if Geno would be "Square rep", there are plenty of other choises.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Then it's probably going to be just that.

Further speculation seems a lost hope at this point, and also frankly... boring.

Not entirely. He only said Minecraft CONTENT which for all we know could mean a spirit in the base game or that Banjo Kazooie have to share their pack with a Minecraft stage.

 

[Kuon]

Then it's probably going to be just that.

Further speculation seems a lost hope at this point, and also frankly... boring.

I agree completely. It also gets repetitive when we all speculate on the same ten characters over and over again

 

[Opelucid]

Banjo
Steve
Paper Mario
Octopath Traveller Rep
Bandana Dee

 

[osby]

Seriously why does some people assuming a season 2?

I’m asking this because Sakurai stated dlc ends in February 2020 and the fifth one will be finished at that time.
(Atleast I think that’s what he said.J

Wishful thinking?

I agree completely. It also gets repetitive when we all speculate on the same ten characters over and over again

At least people won't get their hopes up, we all know how that ends with this fandom.

 

[Kuon]

Seriously why does some people assuming a season 2?

I’m asking this because Sakurai stated dlc ends in February 2020 and the fifth one will be finished at that time.
(Atleast I think that’s what he said.J

You're right, which is why I think those five will be it. A season two dlc sounds too good too be true, just like the Grinch leak did

 

[Polar Bair]

Alright here’s a another crack theory by Janitor Peeton.

You’re nearing then of your World of Light journey, just nearing the final boss! It’s been a long game, about 10 hours of total playtime. When you click to start the fight, a cutscene plays showing all the characters once more and just as everyone is about to attack.... someone falls out of the sky? It’s a wooden doll! It flips its wrist to reveal a gun and points it at galeem (or whatever the final bosses name is) then you see a bear and bird beside him, then a woman with white hair and two guns, and a kid with blade that looks like a key, and finally a brave little waddle dee with a bandanna and a spear!

The camera then pans out to show all of them and the base roster +piranha plant and ends with a “to be continued”

Only if you've paid for all of them, of course

 

[Cosmic77]

I already know people will get annoyed at this suggestion, but what if a Champion from BotW was planned as DLC?

If you remember, "Zelda Wii U" was being brought up by Nintendo since 2013. There was a lot of hype surrounding that game back then, so what if Sakurai planned for one of the characters as DLC, but didn't know what his options were? Yes, the game wouldn't launch until early 2017, but that's only three and a half months after Su/Mo, the game that Incineroar debuted in.

I already know it's unlikely, seeing how each character comes with a stage and we already have something from BotW. I guess it's not a total deal-breaker since there's other games in Smash that have gotten multiple stages (SM64, KI:U, X/Y), but I don't see it a very realistic outcome. Wouldn't mind being wrong though.

 

[Robertman2]

I’m more than ok...I’m

Spoiler: click to reveal how I am currently doing

And slightly drunk. Maybe I should give the man my booze money too

On topic,


That reminds me that I should also update my roster soon-ish.

I do think that on top of the five newcomer DLC, we have a good possibility of 2-4 Echoes as single DLC much like how PP will be managed.

I have a question, I know Sora is our new speculation poster boy but why? Is there a leak about him? Is it cause Geno was kinda deconfirmed? Anything besides Verge saying “there’s another SE rep?”

Spawn Wave mentioned him being revealed at the Game Awards

 

[Kuon]

Wishful thinking?



At least people won't get their hopes up, we all know how that ends with this fandom.

We're still gonna get our hopes up, because it's only human to hope for the best
Edit: I mean, just look at the predictions. People think Banjo and Geno will be dlc. Was the grinch leak being fake not a wake up call that those two will not be in the game? I'm sorry but it's just not happening. Now if Vergeben had mentioned Banjo as dlc that'd be different, but he hasn't.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

You mean the full renders? Robin does.

Spoiler: And it's awesome.

You’re a ****ing saint

Glad to know Sonic's alts are still awful. Half the reason I hoped for shadow was possible better alt's

Shadow wasn’t gonna have alts that were any different from what Sonic gets...and think about this...atleast Sonic’s alts have gotten better with their limitations than Cloud or Pac-Man

 

[Nekoo]

I have a question, I know Sora is our new speculation poster boy but why? Is there a leak about him? Is it cause Geno was kinda deconfirmed?

We need more anime Swordman that's why.

But ahem, more seriously it's because of the stars lining up.

Spawn-Wave back in October said that there might be a reveal of the first DLC at the Game Awards, since then he's been repeating it in three of his smash video, saying that it will be someone big, to sell people on the fighter pass.
Spawn-Wave seems to hint at Sora and his reaction to Geno being a spirit was "This will go well."
Vergeben saying that the Square-Enix Characters is first DLC.
Vergeben ignoring all questions about Sora counting or not as a Square-Enix Rep ever since back in August.

It can also be a Dragon Quest Characters. But people seems to believe it's Sora.


But I'm not complaining, I'm living in a world where Sora is in the front of speculation as DLC when literally what? Less than a month ago he was the laughing stock and scapegoat of Muh Disney nazis

 

[Polar Bair]

Seriously why does some people assuming a season 2?

I’m asking this because Sakurai stated dlc ends in February 2020 and the fifth one will be finished at that time.
(Atleast I think that’s what he said.J

Usually when DLC is sold in seasons there are multiple seasons. I'm 50/50 on whether that's actually going to happen, all things considered. It would be hard to not add more if you were Sakurai and could come up with another 5 characters to add.

 

[Keyblader_Of_Smash]

Here is all the color/skins in ultimate

Literally the only 2 skins I loved are gone. RIP Red Robin and Cordelia Lucina.. At least Big the Incineroar is a thing now. *sighs*

 

[Graizen]

If they put Agumon in they should add his stage from Digimon Battle Spirit including the Gotsumon stage hazard.

I’m more than ok...I’m

Spoiler: click to reveal how I am currently doing

And slightly drunk. Maybe I should give the man my booze money too

On topic,


That reminds me that I should also update my roster soon-ish.

I do think that on top of the five newcomer DLC, we have a good possibility of 2-4 Echoes as single DLC much like how PP will be managed.

I have a question, I know Sora is our new speculation poster boy but why? Is there a leak about him? Is it cause Geno was kinda deconfirmed? Anything besides Verge saying “there’s another SE rep?”

Sakurai said on the Direct that all the DLC will be new characters , no Echoes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's honestly wild we're already getting more DLC newcomers than 4. 4 had 8 DLC characters, 3 if which were veterans, although Mewtwo needed Newcomer-esque time to make due to Melee being too old and his unique moveset, meaning 5 newcomers to the series.
Ultimate has that same in the Fighter's Pass but Audrey's a bonus character meant to make people want to get the game early and doesn't seem to come with a stage or music, making 6. **** me man, I'm just so amazed at this game

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Question

Do crash bandicoot still have a chance for one of the 5 dlc slots?

Or do you think he suffered the same fate as Rex and Pyra (game was too late)

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I agree completely. It also gets repetitive when we all speculate on the same ten characters over and over again

10? I count much higher than that.

1. Geno
2. Sora
3. Banjo
4. Crash Bandicoot
5. Steve the Minecraft
6. Katalina the Granblue
7. Shantae
8. Dixie Kong
9. Another Pokemon
10. Impa
11. Bandanna Waddle Dee
12. Another FE character
13. NES retro (MAch Rider?)
14. Chorus Kids
15. All the Mega Men (Thank you Chrom)
16. Assist Trophy promotions maybe...?

Bit of a stretch that last one

 

[Jetsurge]

To the people angry about Steve and the Plant (i am included):


It could have been worse.

How worse? Well, worse like Playstation All Stars Battle Royale.

Agreed Minecraft Steve, PP and Katalina are far better choices than Fat Princess

 

[Keyblader_Of_Smash]

We need more anime Swordman that's why.

But ahem, more seriously it's because of the stars lining up.

Spawn-Wave back in October said that there might be a reveal of the first DLC at the Game Awards, since then he's been repeating it in three of his smash video, saying that it will be someone big, to sell people on the fighter pass.
Spawn-Wave seems to hint at Sora and his reaction to Geno being a spirit was "This will go well."
Vergeben saying that the Square-Enix Characters is first DLC.
Vergeben ignoring all questions about Sora counting or not as a Square-Enix Rep ever since back in August.

It can also be a Dragon Quest Characters. But people seems to believe it's Sora.


But I'm not complaining, I'm living in a world where Sora is in the front of speculation as DLC when literally what? Less than a month ago he was the laughing stock and scapegoat of Muh Disney nazis

I know right? It’s crazy to think Sora could actually end up being in Smash. I for one would adore that. My friend might end up hating him because of me but i’m ok with that.

 

[Knight Dude]

So is it true Robin's Final Smash is still the same, even though Chrom's a fully playable character? Because that sounds like some Noob-Smoke MK9 type of stuff.

 

[Nekoo]

So is it true Robin's Final Smash is still the same, even though Chrom's a fully playable character? Because that sounds like some Noob-Smoke MK9 type of stuff.

So far. Yes.

But we never saw Chrom and Robin together in the battlefield as of yet while Robin do his Final Smash, it can be an Alfonzo situation or Chrom was such a late addition they didn't removed him from Robin's FS

 

[Gyrom8]

> ROB buffed
> Olimar buffed
> Bowser Jr nerfed into the earth's core

The Sakurai giveth, the Sakurai taketh away.

 

[Kuon]

10? I count much higher than that.

1. Geno
2. Sora
3. Banjo
4. Crash Bandicoot
5. Steve the Minecraft
6. Katalina the Granblue
7. Shantae
8. Dixie Kong
9. Another Pokemon
10. Impa
11. Bandanna Waddle Dee
12. Another FE character
13. NES retro (MAch Rider?)
14. Chorus Kids
15. All the Mega Men (Thank you Chrom)
16. Assist Trophy promotions maybe...?

Bit of a stretch that last one

I think only sora, Steve, a FE rep, and katalina are realistic choices. I don't expect any other Nintendo characters aside from FE

 

[ButterGeek]

Is this better? I had to make the rest of the roster look bad to make sora look less wrong, so I'm not sure if its better

 

[Deleted member]

Here's my list of what we definitely will get for the season pass:
1. Piranha Bean
2. Fire-spewing Piranha Plant
3. Flying Piranha Plant
4. Giant Jungle Piranha Plant
5. Baby Pink Gold Piranha Plant

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

>Nana-swapping is back
Good. Also, nice of Peach and Daisy to have matching black dresses, that's pretty neat.

That said, one idle thought I had this morning that most may not have considered:

If Kirby inhales Steve, would he turn into a cube?

Spoiler

Literal Qbby.

You know, people used to poke fun at me for thinking Don-chan has a high chance as a potential Namco rep, and a newcomer.
Then the Piranha plant happened.

So, now what do you all think about having this drum becoming a potential newcomer and namco bandai rep, and what do you think his odds compared to other namco reps are? This thing is insanely iconic and popular in Japan.

Well, he has pretty stiff competition, between Heihachi, Agumon, Siegfried/Nightmare, Jin, Klonoa, Ms. Pac-Man, Valkyrie and a metric ton of others. The Tekken cast in particular would be the biggest obstacle to get past.

Are you sure you aren’t just seeing things...?
View attachment 175224

On that note, I'm glad that Luxord got brought back, for a PotC world, no less.

 

[SuperMasterHand]

Don't know if it's been posted, but we can see Luigi's grab (kind of)

 

[Knight Dude]

So far. Yes.

But we never saw Chrom and Robin together in the battlefield as of yet while Robin do his Final Smash, it can be an Alfonzo situation or Chrom was such a late addition they didn't removed him from Robin's FS

That's weird. But pretty cool. If we get one of those other Super Fighting Robot Men, or Fiora. I wonder if that'll change by launch?

I'm not getting my hopes up too much though.

 

[Mr. Trumo]

> Bowser Jr nerfed into the earth's core

Nooooooooooooo...

 

[Kuon]

Question

Do crash bandicoot still have a chance for one of the 5 dlc slots?

Or do you think he suffered the same fate as Rex and Pyra (game was too late)

I think he's too late. I don't think he's happening

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Question

Do crash bandicoot still have a chance for one of the 5 dlc slots?

Or do you think he suffered the same fate as Rex and Pyra (game was too late)

I think he's a bit too late...

 

[Deleted member]

Question

Do crash bandicoot still have a chance for one of the 5 dlc slots?

Or do you think he suffered the same fate as Rex and Pyra (game was too late)

I feel like he still has a tiny chance.

I posted in his support thread some points that could benefit him.

 

[praline]

Honestly I still think Dragon Quest has a better chance of having a rep than Sora being the dlc character.

 

[Deleted member]

Unequipable Fighter Spirits confirmed.

Note: This is a Fighter Spirit.

Fighter Spirits cannot be equipped. They are there just to allow players to enjoy the art. pic.twitter.com/wpoD67BBhk

— Will (PushDustIn) (@PushDustIn) November 3, 2018

 

[Deleted member]

Unequipable Fighter Spirits confirmed.

Note: This is a Fighter Spirit.

Fighter Spirits cannot be equipped. They are there just to allow players to enjoy the art. pic.twitter.com/wpoD67BBhk

— Will (PushDustIn) (@PushDustIn) November 3, 2018

There's hope friends.