Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Michele]

On the topic of Undertale, because I can't contain my hate-boner for it, it does a very poor job of making you feel bad for the monsters you kill because they're the ones who attack you. Killing a monster who's trying to kill you first isn't exactly the most complex moral dilemma there is. And even if you go for the genocide route, where it's more likely that you're the one hunting the monsters, its very nature just replaces any kind of emotional impact with having to slog through the same bull**** over and over. You're not getting into a character, which would actually give some impact, you're just filling a quota to complete an ending, completely removing yourself from your character's actions and motivations.

You know what would've made the genocide route more effective? A more in-depth battle system. Give the player more abilities that they get as they level up so that people actually have an incentive. Make the pacifist route more difficult, so that then you can more accurately blame the player for committing genocide just to get stronger and have an easier time. As it stands, the genocide route loses its impact because there's no incentive to do it since you can get through the game just fine at level 1. The only reason people have for doing genocide is to get the ending.

The game is so up its own *** about how smart and meta it is that, with none of the intended impact, it just becomes obnoxious.

Woah, woah! I know that you like that game, but if you hate that, then can you please rant in another thread? It just doesn't seem the right topic here!

That seems likely. Would be nice if we get a nice surprise like we did with Brawl. Those were the days staying up until 3/4am here to find out who the next character will be revealed as a newcomer

For me, I honestly think it's very unlikely. Can't agree with what he said, since it's not possible at the moment, to do these several things. I think a Direct would be better, but let's not rush it.

 

[Misery Brick]

Pick 2, dismiss 2. What are your choices?

Pick Mew, because he looks more like an actual fetus in this design, and Golbat because Kanto really only has two Pokémon that lick now.

20 character roster?

I'm going to pick off the characters already in the game:


Unlockable:

 

[Blue7113]

I'm a bit bored. Let's play a game. Imagine you were a director instead of Sakurai, and you had to create a DS version/game of Smash. Which characters would you put, assuming 20 is the limit? Remember, only 4 playable, and 16 unlockable.

Also, Mario, Kirby, Link and Pikachu should be in the roster.
For me:


Unlockables:

Okay
Playable

Unlockable

 

[Handy Man]

Wait. Guys. I just realized something.

Famitsu is having news on Smash Ultimate.

Necky the fox confirmed.

 

[MrSmashFour]

I have a theory. Nintendo will just do the Smash reveal through the Smash website before Famitsu releases their new issue to avoid spoilers, and then they will do the Direct.

Interestingly enough, that article has since been removed. Do with that what you will.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I have a theory. Nintendo will just do the Smash reveal through the Smash website before Famitsu releases their new issue to avoid spoilers, and then they will do the Direct.

Agree

That’s basically doing the same thing what they did with Lucina/Robin trailer back in smash 4

 

[MojoRobo]

Woah, woah! I know that you like that game, but if you hate that, then can you please rant in another thread? It just doesn't seem the right topic here!

People were talking about Undertale and its writing when I was writing that, so I just shared my two cents on the topic.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

 

[Michele]

People were talking about Undertale and its writing when I was writing that, so I just shared my two cents on the topic.

Understandable, I do still think it's not relevant to Smash here though. We were about to talk about that theory that IGuessItsOver talked about.

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

Hello, new duo! I think Skull Kid will be announced. After all, the clock's ticking...

 

[praline]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

Skull Kid or Isaac I think.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll never say Undertale is a bad game, because it isn't. But good god is it overrated.
Aside from the issues I already mentioned, it tries to present itself as an RPG even though the battle system can barely be called one and the stats and equipment are completely pointless because it's all OHKOs from your side or the enemy's. It's a deeply flawed system and makes it seem more like they're trying to mock RPGs for the way they handle the deconstruction of its tropes.

 

[MojoRobo]

Understandable, I do still think it's not relevant to Smash here though. We were about to talk about that theory that IGuessItsOver talked about.

The thread goes off topic a lot anyways. Also writing that on a phone took longer than it should've, obvs.
For my thoughts on the thing with Famitsu, I kind of echo the sentiment that it's possible, considering the Robin/Lucina reveal trailer was a thing.

 

[Will]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

It could be literally anyone.

 

[monadoboy]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

I hope it's Elma.

 

[Iridium]

Golbat and Exeggutor are GOATs.

I really like Crobat, so I don't really get scared of Golbat's. It's a bit funny. Imagine that in 3D.

Mew... has an interesting design. I wonder what would happen if the design stayed like that, in the games, movies, and Smash too. Imagine this in 3D.

 

[Michele]

Nintendo is about to say something in 10 minutes. Get ready.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Getting Skull Kid as a playable character when Ghirahim got the Assist Trophy treatment again... What an offensive idea!

I mean it would still be awesome but I demand one-shot villain equality!

 

[IGuessItsOver]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

I'm saying it's time we get Geno, he's had STRONG support during the Brawl and Sm4sh days, so i think it's finally his time to come out.

 

[MojoRobo]

I'll never say Undertale is a bad game, because it isn't. But good god is it overrated.
Aside from the issues I already mentioned, it tries to present itself as an RPG even though the battle system can barely be called one and the stats and equipment are completely pointless because it's all OHKOs from your side or the enemy's. It's a deeply flawed system and makes it seem more like they're trying to mock RPGs for the way they handle the deconstruction of its tropes.

You're nicer to the game than me, clearly. lol

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Nintendo is about to say something in 10 minutes. Get ready.

What are you talking about?! TELL US

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm saying it's time we get Geno, he's had STRONG support during the Brawl and Sm4sh days, so i think it's finally his time to come out.

Nah, Geno will be the final character announced

 

[MrSmashFour]

Nintendo is about to say something in 10 minutes. Get ready.

Source?
If you're just randomly saying this, that's not very fair to people who are trusting you.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Interestingly enough, that article has since been removed. Do with that what you will.

Probably because people are making the wrong asspyuon of the next Famitsu magazine. They are looking at this past weeks which did have a smash article and for whatever reason they a week in advance. I don't get it...

 

[MojoRobo]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

I'm still getting on Skull Kid next. All of the Skull Kid related stuff recently would be weird if he wasn't revealed next. I think we'll get our new Pokemon when LGPE's release is near.

 

[ReeseBalaski]

I think Super Flippin' Smash Bros. is the perfect reboot name.

/s

 

[Deleted member]

So... who do we think is the character being announced? My bet's on Incineroar...

My heart says Octoling or Isabelle, but my mind says probably a Pokemon. So Incineroar or Lycanroc, I'm thinking.

 

[SonicMario]

"New Super Smash Bros."

Well, that's a title of a reboot if I ever saw one.

Toad finally gets in Smash.

In fact, there's two of them.

 

[Sigran101]

People are talking about grima or something for Robin's new final smash. Why can't it just be pair up with a different character? He could summon Morgan or Tharja.

 

[Michele]

Source?
If you're just randomly saying this, that's not very fair to people who are trusting you.

It's just my prediction. I'm sorry for randomly saying it, that was impolite of me. But I do have a feeling that Nintendo will say something in about six minutes. I have seen Nintendo randomly tweeting after three hours of inactivity.

 

[Deleted member]

I literally cannot trust people who would put Ganondorf over Zelda in hypothetical limited rosters

 

[Cosmic77]

Dunno if it's been talked about yet, and it may be a bit off-topic, but Ubisoft really knows how to handle Nintendo's property well.

First, it was an out-of-the-blue crossover between the Rabbids and Super Mario characters that was hated until it actually released and was deemed a surprisingly good game

Now? Most people are saying they should pitch Ubisoft in on the creation of a new Star Fox game for their extremely well-done implementation of the characters in StarLink. Even I have to admit that it's very charming.

Nintendo is starting to figure out an effective way of beefing up their library. Third-parties can make the game, while Nintendo can provide a popular franchise that will attract consumers.

It's a smart move overall. Might not be as big of a profit as they're used to, but at least their first-party studios have a massive weight off their shoulder this way. Hope to see more companies get involved in the future.

 

[Deleted member]

People are talking about grima or something for Robin's new final smash. Why can't it just be pair up with a different character? He could summon Morgan or Tharja.

I don't get why people suggest Tharja when her crush is canonically one-sided, she has nothing over other Awakening characters.
It's gonna be Morgan if they keep Pair Up

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Nintendo is about to say something in 10 minutes. Get ready.

Tell the source or stop making stuff up

 

[L9999]

I do wonder why the title has "beware spoilers" and all of you cry of the potential Famitsu reveals when all you have been doing for the last summer has been reading every leak ever.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

I literally cannot trust people who would put Ganondorf over Zelda in hypothetical limited rosters

They're LOZ icons!

I mean unless you're arguing the franchises should have very few reps in general

 

[Deleted member]

I gotta say, after a bit of a drought, the Switch is about to get some real good ****. Before Smash, we're gonna have Pokemon, Civilization and Diablo in one month. YIKES. I don't expect my wallet to survive at all before Smash Ultimate.

 

[Sigran101]

I don't get why people suggest Tharja when her crush is canonically one-sided, she has nothing over other Awakening characters.
It's gonna be Morgan if they keep Pair Up

Well she's a stalker who is obcessed with Robin either way and she is vastly more popular than Morgan. I think it could go either way.

 

[Pakky]

Nintendo is about to say something in 10 minutes. Get ready.

Telling lies?

 

[Will]

I don't get why people suggest Tharja when she can't even be in the game for being an E10+ killer.

 

[Nazyrus]

Telling lies?

Yeah let's not… The wait is painful as it is