Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Fenriraga]

Can someone tell me if Geno has a voice? If so, I've never heard it.

Nope. His only appearance was a Super Nintendo game and a Cameo in a GBA game, so definitely no voice. Not even bit crunched grunts. He'd need a new one, or would just be silent.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

Have we seen Sakurai in that oufit before? That shirt looks familiar.

Pretty sure that’s the same shirt he wore during the August direct.

 

[N3ON]

That's a really pretty looking stage.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: Pokefloats?

Possible stage and character leak? I got this image from the Source Gaming discord but it originates from 4Chan

Fake or not it looks really good

Now I'm sad because I know it's not happening

 

[BluePikmin11]

Apparently, the 4chan thread where the Pokefloats photo was posted also contains an image from the direct which doesn't correspond to anything we've ever seen before:

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Now I wanna photoshop Sakurai into different rooms for the memes.

 

[Dee Dude]

Apparently, the 4chan thread where the Pokefloats photo was posted also contains an image from the direct which doesn't correspond to anything we've ever seen before:

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Aaaaaand, let the pillow speculation straw grasping commence.

 

[WolfCypher]

That stage looks beautiful
Skull Kid looks amazing
Even adorable Waddles stole my heart

So its too good to be true...reeeeeally look at Waddle Dee...he somehow looks off...

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Aaaaaand, let the pillow speculation straw grasping commence.

"All according to keikaku..."

[Keikaku means trolling in Japanese]

 

[N3ON]

I do have to wonder why one picture is an off-TV shot and the other is (very strange looking) screengrab...

 

[fortun8]

Have we seen Sakurai in that oufit before? That shirt looks familiar.

My best contribution to Smash speculation, the photo is fake because it's a reflected image of Sakurai, look at the top button on his shirt. It's on the opposite side of his usual shirts and assuming fashion works by the same rules in the US the buttons for men's shirts are always on the right.

Fake because of fashion!

ooh, good eye, both of you! turns out he wore a similar shirt during the E3 direct and would be in a good pose to reflect onto the other side, as far as i know! but you're right, the shirt in the leak has the buttons on the wrong side.

i'd also like to add that it could be possible that the guy who made it made the background in a 3D program like SketchUp or something similar, since it has props you can put into the scene. it just looks very...clean. not to mention the bloom!

 

[Gumzilla]

Spoiler: Pokefloats?

Possible stage and character leak? I got this image from the Source Gaming discord but it originates from 4Chan

Fake or not it looks really good

This string on the Trumbeak balloon doesn't appear to be attached. The shadow adds on to this. This isn't full on evidence to say this leak isn't real but I figured I'd point it out.

 

[Funktastic]

Because they are probably fake

 

[7982Brick]

I put the Sakurai image into FotoForensic to see if the image has been photoshopped. Since I’m not familiar with identifying photoshop I figured one of you more skillful, individual can see for yourself. https://imgur.com/XpIteu3

 

[Enchess]

So I was listening to the GDC Vault and heard this quote from Sakurai that I hadn't heard before (I don't think):

"Here are some of the criterion we used when selecting characters...the character had to improve the balance of representing series. So of course there are some characters that aren't that famous...but we just wanted to get a good balance so we have a good representation of the characters in the game."

I think he is saying series representation matters when choosing newcomers (despite what most people say here), but it doesnt match the slides. Am I really misinterpreting this?

Edit: just Google GDC Brawl. I'm pretty sure its one of the free ones

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

That 'image of Sakurai' looks like garbage.

But that 'leaked image?' HOLY ****. Easily the best fake yet for Ultimate if it's not real. Unlike the previous ones, I'm actually not 100% on this one, only like 80%. There's a LOT of effort put into this, and it shows. I'll treat it as fake for now, but for once I wouldn't be surprised if this one was the real deal.

EDIT: Lol nvm fake as all get out, I got carried away. Shouldn't have gotten so swept up.

 

[Chrono.]

I do have to wonder why one picture is an off-TV shot and the other is (very strange looking) screengrab...

Because they're different fakes made by different people?

 

[Will]

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This string on the Trumbeak balloon doesn't appear to be attached. The shadow adds on to this. This isn't full on evidence to say this leak isn't real but I figured I'd point it out.

Dude we pretty much unaminously agreed that this was fake.

 

[Iridium]

Nope. His only appearance was a Super Nintendo game and a Cameo in a GBA game, so definitely no voice. Not even bit crunched grunts. He'd need a new one, or would just be silent.

Okay, so just like Mega Man. Makes sense.

 

[Untouch]

I put the Sakurai image into FotoForensic to see if the image has been photoshopped. Since I’m not familiar with identifying photoshop I figured one of you more skillful, individual can see for yourself. https://imgur.com/XpIteu3

It's taken with a camera, FotoForensic wouldn't pick it up.

 

[WolfCypher]

It be more "believable" if at least one of the fighters was actually standing on one of the balloons. They're both "leaping" or floating. Like whoever "made" this screencap couldn't risk having them stationary because it wouldn't look right or something.

I'm grasping at straws trying to prove it fake, rather than trying to believe it real.

 

[Funktastic]

I put the Sakurai image into FotoForensic to see if the image has been photoshopped. Since I’m not familiar with identifying photoshop I figured one of you more skillful, individual can see for yourself. https://imgur.com/XpIteu3

Quick, someone stop my beating heart!

 

[7982Brick]

It's taken with a camera, FotoForensic wouldn't pick it up.

Thanks for th input.

 

[N3ON]

Because they're different fakes made by different people?

That's just lazy, inefficient trolling.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

A reworked Poke Floats makes a lot of sense though. I'm might prod on with this one a bit, but let's see what might come up... especially when there's still like, a week for this leak to prove itself fully to us.

That photo with Sakurai in it though, seems intriguing thing to dissect through over time. How Photoshopped is that one?

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

I think that Poke Floats 2 image is fake for the following reason: shadow casting. Notice that everything on the left balloon casts its shadow to the left as though the light source were from the far right, but the Hoppip balloon has the shadows coming from straight above except Bandana Dee has no shadow at all and then lower on the balloon in which some shadows are cast to the right and large segments of the bottom of the balloon have no shadows at all. In 4 and before, shadows were faked so this was common, but in Ultimate, there's a real lighting engine which we've seen at work in every other screenshot so far so shadow casting should consistently apply to 100% of objects and have one clear light source.

 

[Zippo]

The big talking point right now seems to be Famitsu, which will have a lot of coverage of the Direct. Those are being printed as we speak, those release on mondays, and there's almost no way Nintendo can just have those taken out now. If they don't want leaks, it's gotta be done before then. So it's very up in the air right now what their strategy is going to be on this, very slippery slope. The timing could not have been worse.

 

[Nap_]

Fake as the fakest but the Pokefloats 2 stage is wonderful.Too bad for that concept.

 

[Chrono.]

I feel the name "Bandana Dee" is the biggest tell here.

 

[7982Brick]

The big talking point right now seems to be Famitsu, which will have a lot of coverage of the Direct. Those are being printeted as we speak, those release on mondays, and there's almost no way Nintendo can just have those taken out now. If they don't want leaks, it's gotta be done before then. So it's very up in the air right now what their strategy is going to be on this, very slippery slope. The timing could not have been worse.

They could release the direct either Saturday or Sunday.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Y'know, a new Poke Floats wouldn't be unlikely.

Not saying this leak's real, just that a remake with some mons that aren't Gen I isn't impossible.

 

[Untouch]

he absolutely messed up with the clone tool here.

Like what is up with his arm?

 

[Ridleyridster]

You were expecting to be the special 4000th post..

But it was me!

Truly one of the all-time great memes.

 

[Nazyrus]

Great now nintendo haters saw we got no direct today so they decided to make fake leaks to amuse/annoy us as we don't know when we're getting it now… internet is fun, lol

 

[Deleted member]

The big talking point right now seems to be Famitsu, which will have a lot of coverage of the Direct. Those are being printeted as we speak, those release on mondays, and there's almost no way Nintendo can just have those taken out now. If they don't want leaks, it's gotta be done before then. So it's very up in the air right now what their strategy is going to be on this, very slippery slope. The timing could not have been worse.

If they already have plans set for when the next Direct date is coming, media outlets like Famitsu are next. If what the Editor-in-Chief says about how they work are true, there'll be a good chance there won't be any leaks from scans.

 

[Icedragonadam]

So there's apparently clipping here.

https://i.imgtc.com/kLZvFHi.png

 

[UberMadman]

So... did anyone yet mention that a Mega Man 11 Demo just hit the eshop? It was probably supposed to be revealed in the Direct, but it’s out now regardless!

 

[Deoxys911]

I have to admit, I'm impressed by that edited picture of Sakurai. The room the "leaker" put Sakurai in does look very believable as part of Sora/NAMCO/wherever the Direct segments are filmed, almost to an uncanny extent.

 

[Zinith]

Well...

Considering what I KNOW is gonna be in the Direct, I'm anxious now...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

They could release the direct either Saturday or Sunday.

I doubt that the power in some damaged areas can be turned back on that fast by then. Unless they'd tell survivors to gather up in untouched cities, or something.

 

[Potato_]

So... did anyone yet mention that a Mega Man 11 Demo just hit the eshop? It was probably supposed to be revealed in the Direct, but it’s out now regardless!

Yep! Playing it right now, seems to be great so far.