Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Ultomato]

Someone else thirsty for Smash Bros. X Jump Stars.

Please give me my Bobobobobobobo VS Ridley please!!!!!

 

[Zinith]

Please give me my Bobobobobobobo VS Ridley please!!!!!

They'll defeat him through the power of divergent English dubbing

 

[Wademan94]

They'll defeat him through the power of divergent English dubbing

Just a reminder that this guy;

shares an English voice with this guy:


Same with these two:

 

[ganondorf_22]

"b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they're not related???!?"

Like the stupid-*** trope of sibling incest that isn't actually incest because they aren't blood related is stupid af bc like even though they aren't blood related doesn't ****ing mean it isn't ****ing incest

Like if you grow up with somebody who acts like your sister, talks like your sister, and is, for all intents and purposes, your sister in EVERY ****ING WAY besides genetically, then it's weird if you ****ing bone her. Even if you aren't blood related. It's weird and bad and really gross and I hate it.

Like so much weird media goes "oh it's not incest because they aren't blood related" but that's just a paper thin excuse to pretend that they aren't making some gross incest ****, because they ****ing are. It's definitely based on the idea and desire of nailing a relative, even if they aren't blood related. If somebody gets off to someone ****ing their stepsister, then they're getting off to the idea of someone ****ing their sister. Full stop.

The main reason incest is bad is because the offspring might be messed up. If the partners are not blood related, that concern goes away.

Although if you were responding to that Corrin/Corrin S ranking video, then yeah, that was weird.

 

[MainJPW]

Same with these two:
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Shadow and Poppa Rocks look like the same character.

 

[Ultomato]

Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?

Please stand up

 

[ZephyrZ]

The main reason incest is bad is because the offspring might be messed up. If the partners are not blood related, that concern goes away.

Although if you were responding to that Corrin/Corrin S ranking video, then yeah, that was weird.

This is a messy argument to get into but...Does Corrin x Elise really not seem predatory at all to you? Although to be fair Elise x almost anyone is kind of messed up...

Anyway it still doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint because if someone thinks of someone as a sibling, they aren't going to stop thinking that just because they find out they aren't related. If I somehow found out that I was adopted tomorrow and that I'm not genetically related to my sisters I still wouldn't stop thinking of them like that. Then consider that Fire Emblem Fates is actually supposed to have themes family at its core and it's still really problematic writing no matter how you stretch it.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Anyway it still doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint because if someone thinks of someone as a sibling, they aren't going to stop thinking that just because they find out they aren't related.

Wish I could say this was true but I know people who ask what's wrong with me when bringing this up. To them finding out someone isn't related is like having the opportunity to date someone who already knows you intimately.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I noticed a few pages back people were saying that "Brave" was a rather light character and it could be Sora. But that's not really true. He sits at 101. Bowser is 135 and Pichu is at 62. Brace is a rather heavy character. Joker is lighter than him considering he's the lightest of the 3.

I honestly don't think weights really make any sort of hints towards what the character is but if Sora is being speculated for Brave over his weight then I think the weight just doesn't fit that mindset. He's not particularly light like people are saying Sora would be.

I dunno. My two cents.

 

[Cristaran]

I noticed a few pages back people were saying that "Brave" was a rather light character and it could be Sora. But that's not really true. He sits at 101. Bowser is 135 and Pichu is at 62. Brace is a rather heavy character. Joker is lighter than him considering he's the lightest of the 3.

I honestly don't think weights really make any sort of hints towards what the character is but if Sora is being speculated for Brave over his weight then I think the weight just doesn't fit that mindset. He's not particularly light like people are saying Sora would be.

I dunno. My two cents.

I think they meant the floatiness of their jumps, but i get what you mean. Its like the slide thing.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Wish I could say this was true but I know people who ask what's wrong with me when bringing this up. To them finding out someone isn't related is like having the opportunity to date someone who already knows you intimately.

Do these people actually have siblings? If so that's uh...yikes.

I'm the middle child between two sisters, one of which many people would consider attractive, and yet I could never relate to that train of thought. And not just because I'm a little bit of a prude (which I admittedly kind of am at times).

 

[PLATINUM7]

Do these people actually have siblings? If so that's uh...yikes.

I'm the middle child between two sisters, one of which many people would consider attractive, and yet I could never relate to that train of thought. And not just because I'm a little bit of a prude (which I admittedly kind of am at times).

Yes and there's other weird relationship **** I could talk about but let's not.

 

[KMDP]

This is a messy argument to get into but...Does Corrin x Elise really not seem predatory at all to you? Although to be fair Elise x almost anyone is kind of messed up...

Anyway it still doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint because if someone thinks of someone as a sibling, they aren't going to stop thinking that just because they find out they aren't related. If I somehow found out that I was adopted tomorrow and that I'm not genetically related to my sisters I still wouldn't stop thinking of them like that. Then consider that Fire Emblem Fates is actually supposed to have themes family at its core and it's still really problematic writing no matter how you stretch it.

Do these people actually have siblings? If so that's uh...yikes.

I'm the middle child between two sisters, one of which many people would consider attractive, and yet I could never relate to that train of thought. And not just because I'm a little bit of a prude (which I admittedly kind of am at times).

I try not to think about it.

I agree with staindgrey , IntSys really shouldn't have made the Fates lords dateable.

I noticed a few pages back people were saying that "Brave" was a rather light character and it could be Sora. But that's not really true. He sits at 101. Bowser is 135 and Pichu is at 62. Brace is a rather heavy character. Joker is lighter than him considering he's the lightest of the 3.

I honestly don't think weights really make any sort of hints towards what the character is but if Sora is being speculated for Brave over his weight then I think the weight just doesn't fit that mindset. He's not particularly light like people are saying Sora would be.

I dunno. My two cents.

101 Weight is actually a unique weight value in Smash Ultimate.

105: N/A
104:
103:
102:
101: "Brave"
100:
99: N/A
98:
97:
96:
95:

100 used to be Mario's weight, and was the standard all others were compared to (obviously, that's changed since then and now Mario is 98.
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I had a bizarre Smash dream last night, I dreamt that I managed to get 9.9 intensity in all Classic Mode runs and unlocked a new character.

For some reason, everyone, including myself, acted as though we had already been informed of this months in advance, but had forgotten.

 

[Ultomato]

I noticed a few pages back people were saying that "Brave" was a rather light character and it could be Sora. But that's not really true. He sits at 101. Bowser is 135 and Pichu is at 62. Brace is a rather heavy character. Joker is lighter than him considering he's the lightest of the 3.

I honestly don't think weights really make any sort of hints towards what the character is but if Sora is being speculated for Brave over his weight then I think the weight just doesn't fit that mindset. He's not particularly light like people are saying Sora would be.

I dunno. My two cents.

I believe at this point people are just grasping at reasons to say their character is "Brave" using the datamined stats.

But wasn't 's speed changed from really fast to really slow?

Datamine stats don't really mean anything

 

[KMDP]

I believe at this point people are just grasping at reasons to say their character is "Brave" using the datamined stats.

But wasn't 's speed changed from really fast to really slow?

Datamine stats don't really mean anything

Datamine stats are subject to change, often radically so because we're not meant to have actually seen them at this point.

 

[Ultomato]

Datamine stats are subject to change, often radically so because we're not meant to have actually seen them at this point.

My point is mainly that we do not know anything about Brave

 

[Cristaran]

KH3 is 10 days away, so if Sora is really "Brave", i think he should be revealed soon, either on launch week or the week after. If not, i think we can safely say he´s not in, sadly.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

KH3 is 10 days away, so if Sora is really "Brave", i think he should be revealed soon, either on launch week or the week after. If not, i think we can safely say he´s not in, sadly.

inb4 Sora is revealed for Smash alongside KH3 for the Switch

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I had an idea for a JRPG Fighting Game Roster, even though it's probably terrible:

• Final Fantasy: Warrior of Light, Cecil Harvey, Bartz, Terra Bradford, Cloud Strife, Squall Lionheart, Tidus, Noctis Lucis Calem.
• Pokemon: Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Sceptile, Gardevior, Garchomp, Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, Lycanroc.
• Tales Of: Stahn Aleron, Lloyd Irving, Luke Von Fabre, Yuri Lowell, Jude Mathis, Mila Maxwell, Velvet Crowe.
• Shin Megami Tensei: Kazuya, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Flynn.
• Dragon Quest: Erdrick, Kiryl, Bianca, Jessica, Jade.
• Fire Emblem: Marth, Lyn, Hector, Ike, Robin, Corrin, Fjorm.
• Xenoblade Chronicles: Shulk, Elma, Rex & Pyra.
• Persona: Minato Arisato, Yu Narukami, Ren Amamiya/Joker.
• Nier: 2B
• Xenosaga: KOS MOS
• Phantasy Star: Alis Landlale, Ethan Waber
• Chrono Trigger: Chrono
• Ys: Adol Christin
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel: Rean Schwazer

 

[Deleted member]

KH3 is 10 days away, so if Sora is really "Brave", i think he should be revealed soon, either on launch week or the week after. If not, i think we can safely say he´s not in, sadly.

That worked well for Yoshi, didn't it?

 

[osby]

Also, I had an idea for a JRPG Fighting Game Roster, even though it's probably terrible:

• Final Fantasy: Warrior of Light, Cecil Harvey, Bartz, Terra Bradford, Cloud Strife, Squall Lionheart, Tidus, Noctis Lucis Calem.
• Pokemon: Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Sceptile, Gardevior, Garchomp, Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, Lycanroc.
• Tales Of: Stahn Aleron, Lloyd Irving, Luke Von Fabre, Yuri Lowell, Jude Mathis, Mila Maxwell, Velvet Crowe.
• Shin Megami Tensei: Kazuya, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Flynn.
• Dragon Quest: Erdrick, Kiryl, Bianca, Jessica, Jade.
• Fire Emblem: Marth, Lyn, Hector, Ike, Robin, Corrin, Fjorm.
• Xenoblade Chronicles: Shulk, Elma, Rex & Pyra.
• Persona: Minato Arisato, Yu Narukami, Ren Ayamaya/Joker.
• Nier: 2B
• Xenosaga: KOS MOS
• Phantasy Star: Alis Landlale, Ethan Waber
• Chrono Trigger: Chrono
• Ys: Adol Christin
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel: Rean Schwazer

Nice roster, even though Pokémon kinda stands out.

Also, nitpick but it should be Ren Amamiya, not Ayamaya.

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

Nice roster, even though Pokémon kinda stands out.

Also, nitpick but it should be Ren Amamiya, not Ayamaya.

No, it's Akira Kurusu

 

[Deleted member]

Nice roster, even though Pokémon kinda stands out.

Also, nitpick but it should be Ren Amamiya, not Ayamaya.

Look, you know how Japanese names are to some us of Englishmen.

 

[osby]

No, it's Akira Kurusu

Unpopular opinion, but I don't like his manga name. Though, I'm biased for names with meanings.

 

[Cristaran]

No, it's Akira Kurusu

Actually, Yu Narukami is called Souji Seta

 

[osby]

Look, you know how Japanese names are to some us of Englishmen.

I'm not an Englishman

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, Yu Narukami is called Souji Seta

Actually Minato's real name is Makoto.

I'm not an Englishman

Joker's new last name sucks, alright?

 

[Ultomato]

No, it's Akira Kurusu

Isn't it actually Harem****er420?

 

[Cristaran]

Also, kinda unrelated, but i saw I Choose You on netflix today, and i finally saw the Pikachu talking scene. It was cute, and i dont really get what the anger was about when it came out.

 

[PsySmasher]

Also, kinda unrelated, but i saw I Choose You on netflix today, and i finally saw the Pikachu talking scene. It was cute, and i dont really get what the anger was about when it came out.

I think it was mostly shock that kicked in when that scene played. I was in a theater with a bunch of adults saying “What the ****?” and couldn’t help laughing during the entire ordeal.

The scene itself is OK though.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, kinda unrelated, but i saw I Choose You on netflix today, and i finally saw the Pikachu talking scene. It was cute, and i dont really get what the anger was about when it came out.

Didn't select few Pokemon talk in the movies?

 

[Cristaran]

Didn't select few Pokemon talk in the movies?

Yeah, but sometimes they dont. Lucario in this movie doesn´t talk, but he did in his debut movie and some other media, Smash being a good example.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, but sometimes they dont. Lucario in this movie doesn´t talk, but he did in his debut movie and some other media, Smash being a good example.

I found it odd that Lucario spoke in Smash when the other Pokemon didn't. Eh, whatever.

 

[osby]

I found it odd that Lucario spoke in Smash when the other Pokemon didn't. Eh, whatever.

Mewtwo does speak in Smash, even if it is limited to Japanese version.

 

[Ultomato]

Also, I had an idea for a JRPG Fighting Game Roster, even though it's probably terrible:

• Final Fantasy: Warrior of Light, Cecil Harvey, Bartz, Terra Bradford, Cloud Strife, Squall Lionheart, Tidus, Noctis Lucis Calem.
• Pokemon: Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Sceptile, Gardevior, Garchomp, Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, Lycanroc.
• Tales Of: Stahn Aleron, Lloyd Irving, Luke Von Fabre, Yuri Lowell, Jude Mathis, Mila Maxwell, Velvet Crowe.
• Shin Megami Tensei: Kazuya, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, Flynn.
• Dragon Quest: Erdrick, Kiryl, Bianca, Jessica, Jade.
• Fire Emblem: Marth, Lyn, Hector, Ike, Robin, Corrin, Fjorm.
• Xenoblade Chronicles: Shulk, Elma, Rex & Pyra.
• Persona: Minato Arisato, Yu Narukami, Ren Amamiya/Joker.
• Nier: 2B
• Xenosaga: KOS MOS
• Phantasy Star: Alis Landlale, Ethan Waber
• Chrono Trigger: Chrono
• Ys: Adol Christin
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel: Rean Schwazer

That looks good, although heavily leaning towards 3 specific series...

In my version, it'd be like this:

Pokémon: Grovyle, Pikachu, Greninja, Garchomp, Sandshrew (look at my profile pic)
Fire Emblem: Marth, Ike, Lyn, Corrin, Robin
Xenoblade: Shulk, Rex, Elma, Lora, Mecha-Fiora
Nier: 2B, A2, Nier
Xenosaga: T-Elos, KOS MOS
Final Fantasy: Cloud Strife, Noctis, Sora, Sephiroth, 1 more (haven't played that much FF)
Tales of: Lloyd Irving, Yuri Lowell, Velvet Crowe (1 more, same as above)
Shin Megami Tensei: 4 dudes, never played it but it looks good
Dragon Quest: Erdrick, Slime, 2 more
Persona: Joker, 1 more
Chrono Trigger: Chrono
Yes: Adol Christin
Golden Sun: Isaac, Felix
Super Mario RPG: Mario, Bowser, Geno, Fawfull
Mother: Ness, Lucas, Porky

 

[Deleted member]

Mewtwo does speak in Smash, even if it is limited to Japanese version.

Is it the "Know my power!" line?

 

[Ultomato]

Is it the "Know my power!" line?

Isn't that Meta Knight?

 

[osby]

Is it the "Know my power!" line?

From Smash wiki:

• Spoiler: Victory screens

  Turns its back to the screen and looks back over its shoulder, saying "Hmm..." In the Japanese version, it says "私はなぜここにいるのか...？" ("Why am I here?")
  [*]Thrusts its hand forward, emits dark energy from its body, and growls. In the Japanese version, it says "私はまけるわけにはいかない！" ("I can not lose!")
  [*]Spins once and then poses while laughing ominously and emitting a flame-like aura of dark energy around itself. In the Japanese version, it says "愚かな！" ("Foolish!")

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

[*]Thrusts its hand forward, emits dark energy from its body, and growls. In the Japanese version, it says "私はまけるわけにはいかない！" ("I can not lose!")

Mewtwo is Lucina confirmed.

 

[Cristaran]

Mewtwo is Lucina confirmed.

If only we had a new character for every character that can´t (or won´t) lose...