Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Wademan94]

I've actually been thinking of a moveset for my most wanted for the past few days and came up with a good up-special concept.
The fighter turns their head into a large hand with an eye in its palm, and they clench their new fist, before teleporting in the held direction, up by default. It has better distance than any other teleport move, however the fighter is left wide open while clenching their fist, some bad startup lag. After the move, their head returns to normal with no lag because of that.

I mean that sounds like a decent recovery but...

Who the hell is your most wanted?!

 

[YoshiandToad]

Puzzle genre?

If I'm not allowed Toad as a legit playable fighter, can I at least get a Wario's Woods stage please. Or Captain Toad Treasure Tracker stage.

Good underrated Nintendo puzzle games.

 

[Wademan94]

Puzzle genre?

If I'm not allowed Toad as a legit playable fighter, can I at least get a Wario's Woods stage please. Or Captain Toad Treasure Tracker stage.

Good underrated Nintendo puzzle games.

Oooh the potential for a Treasure Tracker stage...I can already imagine some elements that dramatically change the stage layout.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean that sounds like a decent recovery but...

Who the hell is your most wanted?!

Lol yeah wtf is your most wanted xd.

 

[BluePikmin11]

so yo, i've been playing Mii Brawler and Mii Swordfighter recently with the Nia/Lip costume. And dude. I love playing as them. Somehow today, I've begun to accept Mii costumes for what they are. Maybe it's the voice changer that plays a part of that acceptance. Somehow, now it feels like a dream come true that I can match-up Lip against tons of Nintendo characters, even if its far from the original source material.

(Now if only there was a Prince Sable costume)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Did you?
With an R?

Oh I see what happened you made a typo and I saw that before you editted it. My b

 

[Iridium]

so yo, i've been playing Mii Brawler and Mii Swordfighter recently with the Nia/Lip costume. And dude. I love playing as them. Somehow today, I've begun to accept Mii costumes for what they are. Maybe it's the voice changer that plays a part of that acceptance. Somehow, now it feels like a dream come true that I can match-up Lip against tons of Nintendo characters, even if its far from the original source material.

(Now if only there was a Prince Sable costume)

I think I want a inspired Mii Costume now.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think I want a inspired Mii Costume now.

What do you mean? We have the LABO costume

 

[Wademan94]

I think I want a inspired Mii Costume now.

Gray Fox or Raiden Swordfighter costume?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I wonder how many more tier lists we’ll gain until there’s one that’s actually legit...aka a Star KO tier list

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I wonder how many more tier lists we’ll gain until there’s one that’s actually legit...aka a Star KO tier list

Roy’s English star KO is easily top tier. Ray Chase really made it sound like Roy was getting stabbed while flying off into the distance.

 

[osby]

I wonder how many more tier lists we’ll gain until there’s one that’s actually legit...aka a Star KO tier list

should be top tiers.

is SS tier.

 

[Deleted member]

so yo, i've been playing Mii Brawler and Mii Swordfighter recently with the Nia/Lip costume. And dude. I love playing as them. Somehow today, I've begun to accept Mii costumes for what they are. Maybe it's the voice changer that plays a part of that acceptance. Somehow, now it feels like a dream come true that I can match-up Lip against tons of Nintendo characters, even if its far from the original source material.

(Now if only there was a Prince Sable costume)

NGL, Miis are a super underrated part of Smash and Nintendo in general.

The Miis in this game are a blast to play, and their games are actually pretty good. Miitopia is one of the best games on the 3DS. I'd be down to see some more Mii costume DLC.

 

[Rizen]

I was thinking about how SSBU includes a lot of final bosses. These are the characters that I know of:
(sometimes with Bowser fights)(Dark costume from Zelda II)(sort of)(In one part of Kirby Superstar)(Sonic Adventure 2 Dark Story). Did I miss any?

 

[Wademan94]

I was thinking about how SSBU includes a lot of final bosses. These are the characters that I know of:
(sometimes with Bowser fights)(Dark costume from Zelda II)(sort of)(In one part of Kirby Superstar)(Sonic Adventure 2 Dark Story). Did I miss any?

Would from HG&SS count?

 

[Deleted member]

should be top tiers.

is SS tier.

Yeah, I like Pit a lot in Ultimate.

 

[Deleted member]

They aren't afraid of a T Rating, you just don't understand the process back in the day.

E10+ wasn't even a thing until 2005, and before then everything that was rated T back then was now all of a sudden also viable for E10+. It's why the K-A rating was modified into just the straight-up E rating.

I know that. Also Brawl was T.

TBH I don't think a rating determines if a game is good or not. All a rating is is a warning label for parents.

An T/M game isn't inherently better than an E game, and vice versa. Nintendo just makes the games and they then get rated what they are. I don't think they are "afraid" of anything.

True, I'm just saying that a lot of pointless censorship would be avoided if Nintendo would just suck it up and accept 1/26th of the alphabet(T). Ratings issues are probably why the character trailers arent viewable in-game.

 

[MBRedboy31]

I was thinking about how SSBU includes a lot of final bosses. These are the characters that I know of:
(sometimes with Bowser fights)(Dark costume from Zelda II)(sort of)(In one part of Kirby Superstar)(Sonic Adventure 2 Dark Story). Did I miss any?

Spoiler: Put in spoilers just in case

Well, there’s in Donkey Kong Jr. (you don’t really fight him directly, but still,) is part of the final boss in SPM, some other Pokémon like would count if counts as aforementioned, is the secret final boss in Octo Expansion, probably some others maybe I might be forgetting...

(By the way, is the actual final boss of Pokémon Puzzle League so it does count. Well, you don’t directly fight it since it acts as a trainer, but yeah.)

Edit: moved my post into a spoiler, just in case.

 

[Deleted member]

True, I'm just saying that a lot of pointless censorship would be avoided if Nintendo would just suck it up and accept 1/26th of the alphabet(T). Ratings issues are probably why the character trailers arent viewable in-game.

It's not really censorship if it's the creator's decision to omit something.

If Nintendo changes something about their own games, that isn't censorship. It's a decision they made for what they feel is appropriate for each region. TBH, though, let's not discuss this too much. Not really the place for it and it's a conversation that never ends well.

 

[Momotsuki]

The Switch is region free now, so if it matters so much just import. If you care enough to go to flame war for it, surely spending the extra few bucks doesn't bother you.

 

[GoeGoe]

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[Mata007]

Is it possible to switch taunt buttons with stick?I find very hard to move caracters on stick!

 

[Garteam]

I was thinking about how SSBU includes a lot of final bosses. These are the characters that I know of:
(sometimes with Bowser fights)(Dark costume from Zelda II)(sort of)(In one part of Kirby Superstar)(Sonic Adventure 2 Dark Story). Did I miss any?

at the end of Donkey Kong Jr. You could also count , if you choose Rowlet as your starter in Sun/Moon.

Spoiler

There's also in Fire Emblem Awakening, although that's technically Grima

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

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>No Mega Man X even though it's on the SNES Classic
>No Mega Man games in general even though the SNES had some of the best in the series

Man...

 

[Robertman2]

>No Mega Man X even though it's on the SNES Classic
>No Mega Man games in general even though the SNES had some of the best in the series

Man...

Gotta sell the compilations

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

>No Mega Man X even though it's on the SNES Classic
>No Mega Man games in general even though the SNES had some of the best in the series

Man...

Yeah, what possible reason could Capcom to have to say no to putting their games on a service that isn't their own?

Oh wait.

 

[Icedragonadam]

>No Mega Man X even though it's on the SNES Classic
>No Mega Man games in general even though the SNES had some of the best in the series

Man...

At least Breath of fire is getting a bone thrown at least. Poor thing never gets to have hardly any representation in Capcom's crossovers.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Gotta sell the compilations

Yeah, what possible reason could Capcom to have to say no to putting their games on a service that isn't their own?

Oh wait.

Yes, but...

Man...

 

[Garteam]

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It's interesting that Mario All-Stars is getting tossed a bone. Usually, Nintendo prefers to just rerelease the NES originals. I guess it's no longer a question of "selling 4 $5 games or 1 $8 game", seeing how you would be getting all 5 with the subscription.

 

[KMDP]

It's interesting that Mario All-Stars is getting tossed a bone. Usually, Nintendo prefers to just rerelease the NES originals. I guess it's no longer a question of "selling 4 $5 games or 1 $8 game", seeing how you would be getting all 5 with the subscription.

I don't care what anyone says, the Super Mario All-Stars versions are the better versions of all of the original Mario Bros. games.
Unless, like, your a Speed Runner or something.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I wonder how many more tier lists we’ll gain until there’s one that’s actually legit...aka a Star KO tier list

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

 

[Robertman2]

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

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Garbage.

 

[osby]

I don't know much about anatomy, but I feel like DDD should've been in the same tier with Mewtwo.

 

[Momotsuki]

An update to my previous idea. The fighter's side special has them mount a newly existent grey bicycle. It's similar to Wario's bike, but it doesn't do as much damage and doesn't stick around after being dismounted. Their down special has them pinch their cheek. It has a very small hitbox, but if it hits, it does only a small bit of damage, but massive knockback, smashing them against the floor and causing them to bounce up with great speed. It has bad endlag, however. Haven't thought of a neutral special yet.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Roy’s English star KO is easily top tier. Ray Chase really made it sound like Roy was getting stabbed while flying off into the distance.

That’s why Roy gets to be in 2nd place on the tier list

should be top tiers.

is SS tier.

Pit > all others (probably gonna be the only character to say a full sentence when flying away)...also he gets to have his own special tier list spot name...The Hot Spring Tier

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

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nerf Olimar’s nose cause it’s too god like

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

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Snouts/snoots should be top tier.

 

[Wademan94]

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

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Rayman would be god-tier if he made it in...

 

[Deleted member]

Not a Star KO tier list but I made a nose tier list about a week or two ago:

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Make a scree-splat tier. I'd be interested to see how that went.

 

[Momotsuki]

I was actually thinking about making a tier list on what fighters have the best alt costume spreads. It'd be a point system.

1 point: Costumes that change only colors, and the color change isn't very different.
2 points: Costumes that noticeably change colors.
3 points: Costumes that add small extras, i.e. Meta Knight's 7 and 8, Yoshi's 8.
4 points: Costumes that change the model to a noticeable extent while it remains the same character, i.e. Villager, Bayonetta, Robin, ect..
5 points: Costumes that entirely change the character, complete with a different name and announcer clip.

Extra rules:
- 3, 4, and 5 point costumes only get that many points for an individual change. Any after that which use the same difference from the default costume, but different colors, are subject to either 1 or 2 points. i.e. 3 of Alph's costumes, 3 of Bayonetta's, ect.
- Miis are unranked due to handling this very differently than other fighters.
- Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, and the trainer themselves are ranked individually.

 

[Deleted member]

This might just be me, but I feel like this thread is super slow today.