Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KingofKoopas]

What are you guys thoughts on a Smash Ballot for Ultimate? Do you guys think it's possible?

Not only is it possible but if we get more than one season pass its inevitable

 

[Dee Dude]

What are you guys thoughts on a Smash Ballot for Ultimate? Do you guys think it's possible?

Nope, can’t see it happening this time around and there’s no confirmation of a second wave so people should’nt get their hopes up.

What I do hope is for a general Ballot that isn’t for a specific game but for the series as a whole and what characters they want in the future.

No limitations like the last one, you can vote for anyone regardless of current role. (AT, BG, Spirit, etc)

 

[Masked Marshmallow]

But what if the Ballot was like the Sm4sh one, for only one character to close all the DLC, after the 5 characters of this Fighters Pass, without a second season?

 

[KingofKoopas]

Probably not. Sakurai has already confirmed that the characters selected for the Fighter Pass were from a list given to him from Nintendo, and TBH I wouldn't get hopes too high for another Fighter Pass.

au contraire
need i remind you?

 

[Opossum]

I mean, keep in mind, people called Pokémon a fad as well.

A fad is more like one of those games that come and go without leaving much of a lasting impact. Like any number of the streamer bait survival horror indie games desperately trying to be the next FNAF.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

The topic was "least wanted character/stage as DLC", stop acting like I'm doing some personal attack on your favorite game lol

It's not just the topic at hand, it's a long standing pattern. Whenever people don't like newer stuff, you love to poke the bear (pun totally intended)

 

[Deleted member]

My least wanted character would be either Bubsy or the Bubble Bobble heroe.

 

[Luigifan18]

I think it's the same thing with Assist Trophies. A lot of people act like ATs lock their characters out of DLC, without even thinking if their character would even be considered for DLC in the first place.

I don't think having a Spirit in-game would stop the development team from adding a character but I think almost all, if not all, Fighter Pass characters will be new to the series. So in the end, Spirits wouldn't change anything.

That applies more to the base game, however. The Assist Trophy characters were never seriously considered as part of the base roster. For DLC, however, a better argument for “Argh, being an Assist Trophy screwed my character over, **** Sakurai to hell" can be made. I won’t be the one to describe that argument, though, because I have other threads to check in on.

Man, I can't think up a single character like that, I wonder who fits this criteria. Hmm...

I'm pretty sure I’m the only one who supports Corsola, Moge-ko, and Dragonite for Smash, even though I’ll readily admit that of those three, Dragonite's the only one who stands a ghost of a chance; Corsola’s only ever been notable as literal Mareanie chow, and Moge-ko and the game she comes from are so ridiculously family-unfriendly that Sakurai would have to be off his rocker to include her.

 

[osby]

Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.

*googles "how do I like a post twice?"*

I know Fortnite isn't a bad game, although it is one of those games I feel too old to play as, with most of its playerbase being actual children, and the game being a lot faster paced/tactical than I imagined. My problem with Fortnite is that I don't see it as having a long lifespan, it currently seems like a fad. It's no cultural zeitgeist of gaming, but a just a mark on gaming history, like when League of Legends was relevant. Fortnite content in Smash Bros would definitely leave a dated mark on it more so than any other franchise I can personally think of. It wouldn't be bad, but it would be like a South Park episode: good for the present of feeling culturally relevant, but in a few years gives a weird dated feeling, and not the one of nostalgia.
Although I do agree that I've never been too much of a Rare fan myself, but there still is a huge crowd out there of people who would sell their children's souls to get Banjo in the game. I can understand the disappointment of having a company never doing anything with the IPs you once held dear. Although characters like Banjo would fit in perfectly for Smash Bros as a playable fighter, but sadly his series isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Why can't we want a content from a contemporary game and have to think what will happen to it in the next decade, again? Well, I guess there are only so many ways to gatekeep new stuff.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Rare is top notch in my book for Battletoads alone, that ****'s ballin', great game that's given me so many more hours than any other NES game, largely due to its absurd difficulty of course, but that I still want to play it despite that means it does something right. Yes, it's a Ninja Turtles knockoff, but who cares, it's a great time regardless.

Not sure how the new one is going to go though, as much as I love it I'm not sure what place it has outside of the 90s, but I'll probably give it a shot.

 

[Idon]

*googles "how do I like a post twice?"*



Why can't we want a content from a contemporary game and have to think what will happen to it in the next decade, again? Well, I guess there are only so many ways to gatekeep new stuff.

It's fine to want contemporary games just as it is fine to not want games without a clearly defined legacy.

 

[Deleted member]

Is Captain Rainbow part of the modern/contemporary cathegory? Or is it considered an old franchise today?

 

[KingofKoopas]

Rare is top notch in my book for Battletoads alone, that ****'s ballin', great game that's given me so many more hours than any other NES game, largely due to its absurd difficulty of course, but that I still want to play it despite that means it does something right. Yes, it's a Ninja Turtles knockoff, but who cares, it's a great time regardless.

Not sure how the new one is going to go though, as much as I love it I'm not sure what place it has outside of the 90s, but I'll probably give it a shot.

it also helps the actual turtles nes game
and i quote
"sucks ass from a straw"

 

[Deleted member]

au contraire
need i remind you?

People said that about Mario Odyssey DLC that was "obviously" coming, or Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC.

Even Splatoon is wrapping up. Considering that it's gonna take nearly a year and a quarter to get all 6 fighters out (and that's assuming nothing gets delayed), I don't think it's too reasonable to just assume they're going to give this game multiple years of updates with this game when they haven't with any other game.

 

[Idon]

Is Captain Rainbow part of the modern or contemporary cathegory?

I'd say anything that's a decade old is far past contemporary.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I think the charm in a lot of Rare’s character designs is their weirdness.

A lot of them are so odd and quirky, but that’s what makes it appealing to many. It’s in a weird combination of dated and timeless.

Except Kiddy Kong, he sucks.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd say anything that's a decade old is far past contemporary.

He isn’t in that case.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Pakky]

I think the charm in a lot of Rare’s character designs is their weirdness.

A lot of them are so odd and quirky, but that’s what makes it appealing to many. It’s in a weird combination of dated and timeless.

Except Kiddy Kong, he sucks.

I hate Chunky and Kiddy. Chunky ain't even fat...

Everyone else except child Tiny Kong is great.

 

[osby]

Is Captain Rainbow part of the modern or contemporary cathegory?

They aren't opposites?

 

[KingofKoopas]

People said that about Mario Odyssey DLC that was "obviously" coming, or Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC.

Even Splatoon is wrapping up. Considering that it's gonna take nearly a year and a quarter to get all 6 fighters out (and that's assuming nothing gets delayed), I don't think it's too reasonable to just assume they're going to give this game multiple years of updates with this game when they haven't with any other game.

Funny you leave out mario kart 8 which had multiple years of dlc..

 

[Opossum]

Anywho, as far as least wanted, that's kinda tough. Most of the characters I outright wouldn't want in the game are either never happening to begin with or are already explicitly disconfirmed.

I guess I'll go for Bandana Waddle Dee. I don't hate him, but he's just kinda anti-hype for me.

 

[Deleted member]

Funny you leave out mario kart 8 which had multiple years of dlc..

It had two packs of meaningful content that came out in the same year and then it was done.

 

[Deleted member]

They aren't opposites?

I know.

I wasn’t using opposites.

Funny you leave out mario kart 8 which had multiple years of dlc..

The latest update added Breath Of The Wild stuff, if i am not mistaken.

 

[KingofKoopas]

It had two packs of meaningful content and then it was done.

Yeah it totally didnt add 200cc or come to the nintendo switch to stay alive for even more years after that.

 

[Deleted member]

I want the Fortnite content trailer to start with Geno getting shot by Jonesy

on january 8th lets all go to sakurai and ask for a fortnite geno

the look on square-enix's face will be epic!!!

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah it totally didnt add 200cc or come to the nintendo switch to stay alive for even more years after that.

The Switch release was a port that added Battle Mode and Inklings.

There's also a very big difference in Mario Kart racers compared to Smash fighters.

 

[osby]

I know.

I wasn’t using opposites.

Then "or" was a poor choice of words.

 

[KingofKoopas]

on january 8th lets all go to sakurai and ask for a fortnite geno

the look on square-enix's face will be epic!!!

Let's not and say we did.

 

[Pakky]

Now Fortnite has some baller character models, love them.

I will never play PUBG, its gross looking.

 

[Deleted member]

Then "or" was a poor choice of words.

You are probably right.

I’ll see if i can write it better.

 

[KingofKoopas]

The Switch release was a port that added Battle Mode and Inklings.

There's also a very big difference in Mario Kart racers compared to Smash fighters.

Mhmm
and this still doesn't cease to be true so..

Edit: I just woke up give me a break.

 

[Deleted member]

you know as someone who hasn't played a metroid game samus is pretty ****ing cool

like her power suit looks so baller and her jet heels are cool (though I kinda wish they were jet boots or something more practical)

 

[Deleted member]

Mhmm
and this still ceases to be true so..

All I'm saying is that there's a lot of things that would make money that Nintendo doesn't do. Switch VC being one of them, yet here we are with NSO's NES only policy.

It's very bold to assume Nintendo does things that make sense when they have a known history of not doing that and doing whatever the heck they want instead.

 

[Deleted member]

you know as someone who hasn't played a metroid game samus is pretty ****ing cool

like her power suit looks so baller and her jet heels are cool (though I kinda wish they were jet boots or something more practical)

As a Metroid fan, i would suggest these games of the franchise:

>Zero Mission
>Super Metroid
>Fusion
>Prime 1
>Prime 2
>Samus Returns
>Prime 3

Prime Hunters is neat for a DS game, but i am not sure if you will enjoy it like i did.

 

[Deleted member]

>Zero Mission
>Super Metroid
>Fusion
>Prime 1
>Prime 2
>Samus Returns
>Prime 3

Super Metroid is my other older brother's favorite game of all time. (I have two older brothers lol, this isn't the one who plays in Ultimate)

 

[KingofKoopas]

All I'm saying is that there's a lot of things that would make money that Nintendo doesn't do. Switch VC being one of them, yet here we are with NSO's NES only policy.

It's very bold to assume Nintendo does things that make sense when they have a known history of not doing that and doing whatever the heck they want instead.

And what is stopping them from doing it? It makes financial sense to have a second season with how well smash is doing and how many units its selling, and every fighting game now has at least 2 season passes.. It is basically like trying to say just because it makes sense the sun will come up every morning doesn't mean it will.

 

[Deleted member]

As a Metroid fan, i would suggest these games of the franchise:

>Zero Mission
>Super Metroid
>Fusion
>Prime 1
>Prime 2
>Samus Returns
>Prime 3

Prime Hunters is neat for a DS game, but i am not sure if you will enjoy it like i did.

Yeah I'm definitely planning on picking up MP4 and/or the rumored MP trilogy and also should be getting Samus Returns alongside a new 3DS later this month, so I'm gonna try getting into this series. Seems right up my alley tbh

 

[fleshdude.gov]

I could see Fortnite happening in the DLC for the same reason Steve's name has been passed around - they would be instantly recognizable to a large young audience, and thus be potentially able to tap into a pretty large playerbase that could generate a lot of DLC sales. In short, they would be a marketing pick. Keep in mind that Sakurai has stated that Nintendo chose the DLC, and it is in their best financial interest to make as much profit as possible.

 

[Deleted member]

TBH I also find it very interesting that when there has been multiple DLC packs for games, Nintendo always makes that clear (BotW made it clear that two packs were coming).

However, Smash only lists its DLC as the Fighter Pass. Not Fighter Pass #1, but just simply the Fighter Pass. I'd be more than happy to be wrong on this, but TBH I really do think after these 6 that's all for Ultimate's roster. Which is fine by me, there's gonna be 80 characters in this game when all is said and done. That is more than enough, lol.

 

[Pakky]

… What if Zero suit Dark Samus?