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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Cutie Gwen

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That pissed me off because I've gone a long time being like "he does nothing new" when he actually had that armor mechanic but they didn't showed it at all.

So, yeah, same.
It's so ****ing stupid because you can EASILY sell people on that kind of character. Sure, he doesn't feel fun to play imo but still, a character trailer with gameplay should tell us how they work. Ridley looked pretty nuts with his stage control and beefy looking moves and what do you know, his damage output it pretty great! Belmonts showed off that their range was ludicrous and what do you know, people use them as zoners! K.Rool? "HE HAS SPECIAL MOVES OMGGGGGG"
 

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Now that Dragon's Dogma has been announced for Switch, the meme where I push for Mercedes in Smash will continue.
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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.

PS: I don't have anything against Sora. I never played KH but he seems like a cool character. Just saying in case someone starts assuming stuff.
 
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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.
I feel your pain my dude :(
 

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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.

PS: I don't have anything against Sora. I never played KH but he seems like a cool character. Just saying in case someone starts assuming stuff.
Because a lot of Geno supporters have become annoying assholes.
 

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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.
I think that out of all characters that got hype in leak-season, he's the least well known/currently relevant, so people who get salty over characters they don't know getting in over their picks saw him as an easy target and him being deconfirmed made them feel better about themselves so they caputalise on that salt.
 
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Because a lot of Geno supporters have become annoying ********.
Just because a few people are being obnoxious doesn't mean that the entire Geno fan base should be considered toxic or harassed.

All fan bases have immature or rude people (see the Ridley and K. Rool meltdowns of Smash 4), but you really shouldn't let a small handful of people represent the entire group.
 
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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.

PS: I don't have anything against Sora. I never played KH but he seems like a cool character. Just saying in case someone starts assuming stuff.
That's generally what happens when a character is popular; the same sort of thing happened with Ridley (who was bashed for being too big to make it into Smash Bros.) and K. Rool (who many claimed to be "too irrelevant" to be included), and look at how that turned out.

Also, a general rule for using the internet: ignore Youtube comments.
 

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We’re talking about Geno?

I’ll admit, I used to be against him and disliked the idea of him in Smash because he’s an obscure side character from a spin-off game and I felt his entire Smash support came from the bandwagoning in Brawl.

But it wasn’t really fair of me to use the one-shot arguments since we already have several niche characters who’ve only been in 1 game.:ultness::ultlucas::ultsheik::ulticeclimbers::ultduckhunt:

The Grinch era was where I actually started to warm up him in the Smash community because at the time where I thought the leak was real, I genuinely felt that Geno was finally gonna get in out of pure popularity and passion by Sakurai for those long-time Brawl supporters so I pretty much accepted that no matter how obscure or recurring they are, anyone can be in Smash as long they’re highly requested, so I kinda bandwagoned on Geno but now I’m genuinely cool with him getting in.

Plus, he does have a cool design.
 
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That's generally what happens when a character is popular; the same sort of thing happened with Ridley (who was bashed for being too big to make it into Smash Bros.) and K. Rool (who many claimed to be "too irrelevant" to be included), and look at how that turned out.

Also, a general rule for using the internet: ignore Youtube comments.
What a time we live in

One :ultridley:

After:ultkrool:

Another:ultpiranha:



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See now here's a question

What do you subtitle the Geno Spirit if Geno becomes a fighter?
 

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It’s still too bad that the relevance argument still remains for characters like Isaac and Banjo even though K.Rool should’ve already dismissed it.

Now he has excuses like “B-but he’s the main villain from an alive franchise!”
 
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See now here's a question

What do you subtitle the Geno Spirit if Geno becomes a fighter?
Sakurai could always tweak his design a bit for him as a fighter and rename the Spirit "Geno (Original)"
 

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I kinda feel bad for supporting Geno sometimes, because of all the hate he gets. I can't even mention Geno in a comment on YouTube that people start attacking me and calling me a salty toxic person, despite me only saying "I would like it if Geno got in". I'm starting to believe that Geno only gets this much hate because he's the easiest target to pick on, since he's the most unlikely, so people think it's safe to assume he'll never get in. The fact that Sora is another popular pick may have something to do with it too.

PS: I don't have anything against Sora. I never played KH but he seems like a cool character. Just saying in case someone starts assuming stuff.
It takes one rotten apple to spoil them all if the apple isnt taken outnof the basket in time and sadly.
 

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It’s extremely easy for any popular request to become a hated target because of how large their outcry is, it’ll annoy people who don’t see what the big deal is about that specific character and will come up with reasons why they’ll never happen.

It happened to :ultridley: & :ultkrool: over the years, it sure as hell will happen to Geno/Waluigi/Isaac/whoever etc.
 
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Just because a few people are being obnoxious doesn't mean that the entire Geno fan base should be considered toxic or harassed.

All fan bases have immature or rude people (see the Ridley and K. Rool meltdowns of Smash 4), but you really shouldn't let a small handful of people represent the entire group.
If that isn't the truth I don't know what is.

I've come to know a lot of fellow Shantae supporters who I wouldn't ever want to give a single second of my day.

So simply put, it applies to all support fandoms.
 

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Geno (SMRPG) or Ugly Geno because that game's graphics didn't age like wine
Sakurai could always tweak his design a bit for him as a fighter and rename the Spirit "Geno (Original)"
Both are possible. I'm just so hesitant on this 'Spirits= not on the roster' deal.

Its not like I WANT it to be true, but it makes so much sense if it is.

What seals it still for me is :ultpiranha:

Look at ALL OF THE MARIO GAMES and spin offs.

Out of all of them the only two things that even relate to this boy are a baby version and Petey both of which could be counted as totally different entities from what is considered to be a classic/ and or a variant.
 
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Both are possible. I'm just so hesitant on this 'Spirits= not on the roster' deal.

Its not like I WANT it to be true, but it makes so much sense if it is.
I think it's the same thing with Assist Trophies. A lot of people act like ATs lock their characters out of DLC, without even thinking if their character would even be considered for DLC in the first place.

I don't think having a Spirit in-game would stop the development team from adding a character but I think almost all, if not all, Fighter Pass characters will be new to the series. So in the end, Spirits wouldn't change anything.

Except those of us who support characters that nobody else on the face of the earth supports
Man, I can't think up a single character like that, I wonder who fits this criteria. Hmm...:bobomb:
 
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Geno has so many fan-made renders that it’s hard to forget that only one is official lol.
 
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I think it's the same thing with Assist Trophies. A lot of people act like ATs lock their characters out of DLC, without even thinking if their character would even be considered for DLC in the first place.

I don't think having a Spirit in-game would stop the development team from adding a character but I think almost all, if not all, Fighter Pass characters will be new to the series. So in the end, Spirits wouldn't change anything.
I have to agree I only got two Nintendo characters in mind that just aren't included in Ultimate at all then again like with 'Let's go', Sylux and Porky spirits could just be added as promotional material. There absence is weird but doesn't amount to a whole lot.

I think everyone who is DLC will be absoluty new to the series.

Jpegs aren't going to stop development but like its always been, talks of who's in and who's not have happened months in advance.
 
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Bit of a meme question but what if Waluigi was a wrestler and had his own line of wrestling games?
 

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I feel you
Also I found a text leak concerning a Direct that probably isn't real but would be hype as **** (There's no new Smash announcements in it but it does possibly give us a release date for :ultpiranha:)
https://pastebin.com/hVDEAXA2
I believe it simply because FE:Three Houses is mysteriously absent yet again.

On a serious note, have any of these "direct script" leaks ever been real?
 

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I believe it simply because FE:Three Houses is mysteriously absent yet again.

On a serious note, have any of these "direct script" leaks ever been real?
Nope though the one about Jeanne from bayo having her own 3DS game was cute.
 
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Bit of a meme question but what if Waluigi was a wrestler and had his own line of wrestling games?
It'd be just a ton of mini-games where Waluigi stages weird fights.

And a ton of rose petals.
 
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