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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Pakky

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Tekken 7 coming to the Switch does seem likely as well as Neir but eh we'll see.

I just don't see why they'd miss out.

Street fighter 5 not being on the switch is a Sony thing I think.

Though that may change.
 
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in all seriousness, what would be your "least wanted" dlc characters/stages?
 

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Tekken 7 coming to the Switch does seem likely as well as Neir but eh we'll see.
Wow I was just looking for any hints about Neir coming to the switch because I want to play it so so bad.

Fingers CROSSED
 

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Just do what I did, watch a streamer
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Again, I meant separate from OG Link, with a new moveset inspired by BotW.
don’t fix what isn’t even close to broken and don’t add in references that aren’t needed
Bit of a meme question but what if Waluigi was a wrestler and had his own line of wrestling games?
They’d just be Velveteen Dream vs Waluigi matches
 

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in all seriousness, what would be your "least wanted" dlc characters/stages?
Anything related to Fortnite, or any character with a boring moveset like: generic swordfighter or generic brawler. As for stages, as long as they aren't a Battlefield/FD re-skin, I'm ok with anything.
 
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Every time someone says they don't want Fortnite content, my want for it grows stronger.
also, anything that came straight out of rare would be my least wanted
 
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TBH the more I play Isabelle the more I understand why she's considered to have problems. She wants to be a stage control character like Snake but has none of the tools to do so: Fishing Rod is easily shielded, Gyroid Rocket is absurdley long to set up and Hammer is a bad jab.

However, I don't think she's down in the bottom with Bowser Jr., Mac and Kirby. She has good aerials and neat combos, and her tilts and pocket are all good. Fishing Rod is kind of bad on-stage but is a good edge-guarding tool.

EDIT: I meant to say fishing rod was bad ON-stage, not off. Stupid brain...
 
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TBH the more I play Isabelle the more I understand why she's considered to have problems. She wants to be a stage control character like Snake but has none of the tools to do so: Fishing Rod is easily shielded, Gyroid Rocket is absurdley long to set up and Hammer is a bad jab.

However, I don't think she's down in the bottom with Bowser Jr., Mac and Kirby. She has good aerials and neat combos, and her tilts and pocket are all good. Fishing Rod is kind of bad off-stage but is a good edge-guarding tool.
Isabelle is a Goddess Among Men whom can destroy the game in a mere second
 

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I want the Fortnite content trailer to start with Geno getting shot by Jonesy
 
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Every time someone says they don't want Fortnite content, my want for it grows stronger.
also, anything that came straight out of rare would be my least wanted
I can't wait to buy the dab emote for Inklings with my Battle Pass Vbucks.
 
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You're being sarcastic right
Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.
 
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Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.
Okay then
 

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Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.
First, ARK would like to have a word with you
Second, What you said Fortnite did for Battle Royale, Rareware did for 3d platformers.
 

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Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.
My only problem with Rare characters design-wise is Banjo's weird feet. He should have bear feet, not bare feet.
 

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Rare's best games are Conker, mostly because it took the piss out of Rare's other games and their shooters.
 
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No, Shishœ always throws shade at some of the older characters as a form of "revenge" for people not wanting Minecraft/Fortnite stuff.
Yes, because I can't dislike something without it being to get some sort of "revenge".
 

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Why would I be? I genuinely enjoy Fortnite and it's the first and only Battle Royale game to get the genre right.
As for Rare characters, I'll literally never understand their appeal, they have no character to them and their designs make most Isekai anime look like a Da Vinci paitning. They mostly seem to rely on nostalgia for average games.
I know Fortnite isn't a bad game, although it is one of those games I feel too old to play as, with most of its playerbase being actual children, and the game being a lot faster paced/tactical than I imagined. My problem with Fortnite is that I don't see it as having a long lifespan, it currently seems like a fad. It's no cultural zeitgeist of gaming, but a just a mark on gaming history, like when League of Legends was relevant. Fortnite content in Smash Bros would definitely leave a dated mark on it more so than any other franchise I can personally think of. It wouldn't be bad, but it would be like a South Park episode: good for the present of feeling culturally relevant, but in a few years gives a weird dated feeling, and not the one of nostalgia.
Although I do agree that I've never been too much of a Rare fan myself, but there still is a huge crowd out there of people who would sell their children's souls to get Banjo in the game. I can understand the disappointment of having a company never doing anything with the IPs you once held dear. Although characters like Banjo would fit in perfectly for Smash Bros as a playable fighter, but sadly his series isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
 

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Talking about her compared to the rest of the roster, she definitely has problems. A few buffs would do her wonders.
Why buff a god when they’ll just break the game even more. You trying to kill Smash
 

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Rare's best games are Conker, mostly because it took the piss out of Rare's other games and their shooters.
You know what's lowkey messed up about Conker?

its a pioneer...

There is no other videogame equal to something like that of a Tex Avery cartoon than Conker.

If there is, its super niche or indie.
 
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I always loved how Banjo and DK both have similar designs as far as hands and fur go.



I just think there's a difference between when a gorilla has bare hands and feet, and when a grizzly bear does. Like, the hands I get. Standard anthropomorphism.

But the feet just weird me out lol. Like, I actually dig Banjo's design otherwise. The surfer necklace, big belt buckle, and kinda-neon blue and yellow clothing colors have a neat nineties aesthetic. But ffs Banjo stop shaving your feet.
 

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Yes, because I can't dislike something without it being to get some sort of "revenge".
No, it's more so that every time someone speaks negatively of something you like you throw a character like Banjo under the bus. Like clockwork. That's all.
 

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That's not how you spell Zombie Simpsons.
Good point, at least South Park tackles its topics quickly and efficiently ASAP, while Zombie Simpsons makes a Pokemon Go episode a year after the fad already happened.

Still, I wouldn't hate Fortnite or Rare content in Smash Bros at least, I can think of a lot worse and far more undeserving representation.

What are you guys thoughts on a Smash Ballot for Ultimate? Do you guys think it's possible?
Maybe, I could see it happening if a Season 2 of DLC occurs and Nintendo/Sakurai wanting more consumer feedback on character choices. Wouldn't be against it.
 

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I just think there's a difference between when a gorilla has bare hands and feet, and when a grizzly bear does. Like, the hands I get. Standard anthropomorphism.

But the feet just weird me out lol. Like, I actually dig Banjo's design otherwise. The surfer necklace, big belt buckle, and kinda-neon blue and yellow clothing colors have a neat nineties aesthetic. But ffs Banjo stop shaving your feet.
Granted by I'd rather that then...
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God, this is the worst cartoon chameleon I think I've ever seen.

I can't be alone in thinking this.

I mean between reptilian Pokémon, Spyro, Leon, :ultbowser::ultbowserjr::ultgreninja::ultkrool::ultyoshi: all of them are leaps and bounds better than this thing.

:ultyoshi:- Same idea done 200% better.

I think it could be the lime on lemon yellow done in this matter that really trips me up.

I think its gives the eyes a bit of a rest when you have an unsaturated color like cream, white, of off-white or both. As opposed to attacking people with BRIGHT SCARLETT ON BRIGHT LIME ON BRIGHT YELLOW. And done in the laziest way possible.
 
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I know Fortnite isn't a bad game, although it is one of those games I feel too old to play as, with most of its playerbase being actual children, and the game being a lot faster paced/tactical than I imagined. My problem with Fortnite is that I don't see it as having a long lifespan, it currently seems like a fad. It's no cultural zeitgeist of gaming, but a just a mark on gaming history, like when League of Legends was relevant. Fortnite content in Smash Bros would definitely leave a dated mark on it more so than any other franchise I can personally think of. It wouldn't be bad, but it would be like a South Park episode: good for the present of feeling culturally relevant, but in a few years gives a weird dated feeling, and not the one of nostalgia.
Although I do agree that I've never been too much of a Rare fan myself, but there still is a huge crowd out there of people who would sell their children's souls to get Banjo in the game. I can understand the disappointment of having a company never doing anything with the IPs you once held dear. Although characters like Banjo would fit in perfectly for Smash Bros as a playable fighter, but sadly his series isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
People keep saying "fad" this "fad" that and the same thing was said about Minecraft all the way back in 2011. People always call something they don't enjoy a fad because they can't ****talk any actual aspects of the Thing™.
 
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What are you guys thoughts on a Smash Ballot for Ultimate? Do you guys think it's possible?
Probably not. Sakurai has already confirmed that the characters selected for the Fighter Pass were from a list given to him from Nintendo, and TBH I wouldn't get hopes too high for another Fighter Pass.
 
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No, it's more so that every time someone speaks negatively of something you like you throw a character like Banjo under the bus. Like clockwork. That's all.
The topic was "least wanted character/stage as DLC", stop acting like I'm doing some personal attack on your favorite game lol
 
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