Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Iridium]

It would have been the neatest thing if there was a stage that basically did a Stage Morph and allowed characters to fight inside the Divine Beasts. Or, have us fight on Hyrule Field with Guardians as common stage hazards. Perhaps Hyrule Castle after it falls into ruin?

Or...Dragon's Road. Flat road, like Bridge of Eldin. But then we have the magnificent dragons! They would also make for a pretty good sight, assuming they don't actually try to attack during matches, and the snapshots would be worth it. But please do attack, please.

Maybe would appeal to Zinith and Noipoi for clear reasons. Definitely to me already.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Explain the giant ROB on Port Town then.

Alfonzo in a ROB suit.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

That doesn't make any sense because Golden Plains had a similar feature and it was added.

Golden Plains didn’t have to deal with certain things being exclusive to one screen like with Pac-Maze (when you gained your own little pebble thing and the ghosts only changed for your screen). Don’t think they were able to work through that, so it still makes some sense (now a stage like Rainbow Road...no excuses for that stage to not return)

 

[Noipoi]

Whenever I attempt ledge shenanigens I end up killing myself.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Golden Plains didn’t have to deal with certain things being exclusive to one screen like with Pac-Maze (when you gained your own little pebble thing and the ghosts only changed for your screen). Don’t think they were able to work through that, so it still makes some sense (now a stage like Rainbow Road...no excuses for that stage to not return)

All they had to do is have the turn-to-blue only be active for the person who earned it. Have it hurt others. Simple.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: WoL Stuff

Fought the Spirit Battle with the tiny Villagers. That was one of the funniest things ever, oh my gosh it was great.

Also fought Yarn Yoshi, and somehow got through Yoshi hell on my second try. Fun fight, but my word the 4 Yoshis' AI had no chill.

I was surprised and amused by the Snorlax fight. Kept expecting him to do something, but nope; just stood there and let me F-Tilt him to death, lol. Kinda boring, but also faithful to Snorlax's character, so it's 'aight.

Plessie was amazing: Yoshi clipped himself into the Great Bay turtle and got stuck, letting me Inkling D-Smash him to his doom. Definitely one of the funniest and oddest WoL wins I've gotten.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

To be honest, I didn't like either of Pac-Man's stage. Maze is more iconic, sure, but the gimmick is hardwired to the 3DS required multiple screens. It wasn't just a gimmick like Golden Plains. It required a screen per character. So it not coming back is pretty reasonable due to that. Pac-Land is pretty bad, that said. I just don't like these stages where I can barely move anywhere as is. Rainbow Cruise was nice, though(the one from Melee), as it didn't feel like a poorly designed course where you couldn't get anywhere. Nostalgic/iconic isn't enough of a reason for me, of course. I prefer a stage where you can move around easily without being too forced into losing due to the stage alone. A lot of the retro-related stages tend to have this issue(Mario Bros. 75m, Pac-Land, Pac-Maze), though not all. The various Game & Watch stages aren't that intrusive. Green Hill Zone barely has this issue at all. Though Balloon Fight is a really difficult stage to fight on at times.

...Gaur Plains would be, however, the one I can barely play on. Even Palutena's Temple isn't as bad despite the major size. At least you have a lot of area to fight on without being interrupted. This is ignoring hazards like Metal Face, of course.

 

[Zinith]

It would have been the neatest thing if there was a stage that basically did a Stage Morph and allowed characters to fight inside the Divine Beasts. Or, have us fight on Hyrule Field with Guardians as common stage hazards. Perhaps Hyrule Castle after it falls into ruin?

Or...Dragon's Road. Flat road, like Bridge of Eldin. But then we have the magnificent dragons! They would also make for a pretty good sight, assuming they don't actually try to attack during matches, and the snapshots would be worth it. But please do attack, please.

Maybe would appeal to Zinith and Noipoi for clear reasons. Definitely to me already.

I'm down

 

[Graizen]

What if Agumon?

Yeah

 

[Noipoi]

I can't get the timing right on Incineroar's side-B when fighting online. The lag messes me up...

 

[TMNTSSB4]

All they had to do is have the turn-to-blue only be active for the person who earned it. Have it hurt others. Simple.

that wouldn’t work with just one screen, just like what’s mentioned below...so you can’t just make it all easy peasy

To be honest, I didn't like either of Pac-Man's stage. Maze is more iconic, sure, but the gimmick is hardwired to the 3DS required multiple screens. It wasn't just a gimmick like Golden Plains. It required a screen per character. So it not coming back is pretty reasonable due to that. Pac-Land is pretty bad, that said. I just don't like these stages where I can barely move anywhere as is. Rainbow Cruise was nice, though(the one from Melee), as it didn't feel like a poorly designed course where you couldn't get anywhere. Nostalgic/iconic isn't enough of a reason for me, of course. I prefer a stage where you can move around easily without being too forced into losing due to the stage alone. A lot of the retro-related stages tend to have this issue(Mario Bros. 75m, Pac-Land, Pac-Maze), though not all. The various Game & Watch stages aren't that intrusive. Green Hill Zone barely has this issue at all. Though Balloon Fight is a really difficult stage to fight on at times.

...Gaur Plains would be, however, the one I can barely play on. Even Palutena's Temple isn't as bad despite the major size. At least you have a lot of area to fight on without being interrupted. This is ignoring hazards like Metal Face, of course.

Palutena’s Temple has never been bad and never will be bad

 

[Deleted member]

I can't get the timing right on Incineroar's side-B when fighting online. The lag messes me up...

Canceling Inkling's Roller online is a nightmare. I already struggle with it offline, online's latency only makes it worse...

Still can't land their D-Air consistently, either. TBH I need to start playing online more; CPU is all I've fought the past week now and while that can be fun, it's horrible for any meaningful practice and doesn't let me practice certain things like mind games or mix-ups.

 

[Momotsuki]

Hello again, been a while! I had gotten Smash pre-loaded literally the night before launch, and have been playing it with almost every ounce of my free time. And, funnily enough, never really came around here again. Anyhow, it's nice to see people. I wanted to disclose who I've ended up maining. I planned to main Isabelle, but one thing led to another and by the time things got sorted out I found myself maining Mii Gunner, which personally surprised me since I didn't really want to main any of the Miis initially, but the 2112 Mii Gunner is perfect for me, and I've been enjoying using them a great deal!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

1. Scorpion (Morta kombat)
2. Elma
3. Dixie Kong
4. Dragonborn
5. Son Goku
6. Banjo and Kazooie
7. Chrono
8. Nightmare (SoulCalibur)
9. Master Chief
10. Jack (Harvest Moon)

And here are subsequent stages:

1. The Pit
2. Neo Los Angelos
3. Sunset Shore
4. Whiterun
5. Planet Namek
6. Sprial Mountain
7. Gate of Time
8. Ruined Cathedral from the GameCube version
9. Installation 04
10. The Farm

I don’t usually keep up with leaks but Erdrick is looking as a lock. Is the community still on board with a Steve?, Hayabusa, and Doomguy?

Are other rumored characters such as Katalina, Monster Hunter, Dante, and Heihachi still in the leak discussion circles or are they out of the picture?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

that wouldn’t work with just one screen, just like what’s mentioned below...so you can’t just make it all easy peasy

Palutena’s Temple has never been bad and never will be bad

So, eliminate the feature.

It's not a necessity to have Turn-To-Blue only effective in one character. That's not even the only thing it does to the character. It gives them a x1.7 damage boost. There's work arounds every where you look but only one reason to not have it available. Honestly, I would probably be more inclined to believe that 8-Player Smash wouldn't work well on it but even then I wouldn't figure that would be a reason to keep it out. Literally, the only two stages without a solid reason of not being there is the two 3DS stages. Rainbow Road and Pac-Maze.

 

[Noipoi]

Hello again, been a while! I had gotten Smash pre-loaded literally the night before launch, and have been playing it with almost every ounce of my free time. And, funnily enough, never really came around here again. Anyhow, it's nice to see people. I wanted to disclose who I've ended up maining. I planned to main Isabelle, but one thing led to another and by the time things got sorted out I found myself maining Mii Gunner, which personally surprised me since I didn't really want to main any of the Miis initially, but the 2112 Mii Gunner is perfect for me, and I've been enjoying using them a great deal!

Howdy! Good to see an old friend wander 'round these parts again!

 

[Zinith]

Hello again, been a while! I had gotten Smash pre-loaded literally the night before launch, and have been playing it with almost every ounce of my free time. And, funnily enough, never really came around here again. Anyhow, it's nice to see people. I wanted to disclose who I've ended up maining. I planned to main Isabelle, but one thing led to another and by the time things got sorted out I found myself maining Mii Gunner, which personally surprised me since I didn't really want to main any of the Miis initially, but the 2112 Mii Gunner is perfect for me, and I've been enjoying using them a great deal!

Welcome back

 

[RealLuigisWearPink]

STAGE IDEAS:

Minigame Stadium, fight through minigames to gain coins, which in turn give items. Sort of like a Wario Ware sequel.

Devil World, screen shifts around as you're attacked by Tamagon and the demons in the maze.

Balloon Trip, Floating through the air avoiding lightning and collecting balloons

Flat Zone 3, with Mario's Cement Factory, Octopus, Ball and Boxing being represented

Mario Clash, and old idea of mine. Throw Koopas at opponents on three layers of screen! In old red and black

 

[TheCJBrine]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

Banjo-Kazooie, Creeper, Steve, Sans & Papyrus, Skull Kid, Geno, Ninten, Porky, Chorus Kids, Alph (Separate from Olimar) (or Louie, President, or Plasm Wraith), Gengar, Team Rocket Jessie & James (with Meowth, Koffing/Weezing, Ekans/Arbok, and Wobbufett), Raichu (Kanto), Mimikyu, Celebi, Gardevoir, Wurmple, Eevee, Goomba...

...and these chads:

 

[Zinith]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

Sensing a pattern?

 

[Noipoi]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

Your new here? In that case...

Spoiler

As for most wanted characters, I don't have many. Most of them are already assists trophies.

An Undertale character would be really cool.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

Brian(Quest 64)
Master Chief(Halo)
Fulgore(Killer Instinct)
Slime(Dragon Quest)

...Well, those that aren't costumes/AT's now, anyway.

 

[Saetanigera]

I think few choices are as divisive as Steve from Minecraft.

 

[MBRedboy31]

So, eliminate the feature.

It's not a necessity to have Turn-To-Blue only effective in one character. That's not even the only thing it does to the character. It gives them a x1.7 damage boost. There's work arounds every where you look but only one reason to not have it available. Honestly, I would probably be more inclined to believe that 8-Player Smash wouldn't work well on it but even then I wouldn't figure that would be a reason to keep it out. Literally, the only two stages without a solid reason of not being there is the two 3DS stages. Rainbow Road and Pac-Maze.

Maybe they could have it only be effective on the one character, but make it so that the ghosts only turn blue if the powered up player is very close to them.

(Or they could just use a different gimmick.
SSF2, for example, instead of the ghosts and dots, gave it the wrap around blast zones from Balloon Fight but on all sides, which makes for... interesting offstage shenanigans, ahaha...)

 

[KarneraMythos]

Stage Wishes?

Can do!
- Bowser's Castle (Game Cube): Agreed right there
- Mute City (Melee)
- Gloomy Gulch (DKC2): It's still a sin that Forest Interlude has not been officially remixed to this day. Highly-underrated soundtrack and my absolute fav
- Punch Bowl (DKC: Tropical Freeze): The arena where you fight Bashmaster. Lord Fredrik's Volcano Dome would be a close second though
- Sector Z (Super Smash Bros.)
- Orbital Gate Assault: It was such a pleasant stage to look at. I get it being obnoxious in its regular state, but no-hazards and battlefield/omega exist
- Ganon's Castle (Ocarina of Time)
- Ultra Megapolis (Pokemon US/UM): Diametrically opposed to Prism Tower from Lumoise City (Pokemon X/Y)
- Tide Goes Out (Splatoon 2): Specifically the arena where you fight DJ Octavio
- The Flying Krock (DKC2): One where the glass roof is treated as a huge platform you can freely phase through. You get a neat view of Crocodile Isle
- Divine Beast Vah Medoh (BOTW): Right above it where the stone pillars are, providing players with another scope of Hyrule from high above
- Dr. Wily's Military Base (MvC): Yup, you read that right! A call-back to Clash of Super Heroes without MARVEL in the licensing!
- Twoson (Mother 2): We have Onett and Fourside already, so why not another town from the same game?
- Threed (Mother 2): Yup, I'm cheating here since this isn't Lucas' game. Shaddap, it counts for me!
- Pac-Maze (Pac-Man)
- Cloudtop Cruise (Mario Kart 8): So many gorgeous Mario Kart tracks and so little use of them
- Rainbow Road (SSB 3DS): No reason not to bring it back, like a few others. In case it wasn't obvious, I refer to pre-existing stages with these
- Saltverse (GameFAQS): Since we no longer have Miiverse as a thing, we can bring the nearest thing to it, featuring angry comments!
- Mt. Silver (Pokemon HG/SS): C'mon, it practically writes itself!
- The Nerd's Room (Cinemassacre): Based on Episode 100 of the Angry Video Game Nerd. ****pickle and the Glitch Gremlin make cameos here
- Comet Observatory (Super Mario Galaxy): Seriously, why the **** wasn't THIS a stage? Leagues better than "Mario Galaxy". Ugh, missed opportunity...
- Battle Harbor (Street Fighter II)
- Planet Zebes (Super Smash Bros.): I actually miss this variant and prefer it over the Womb Level in Melee that is Brinstar
- Kakariko Village (BOTW)
- Sword Valley (Xenoblade Chronicles): Just any perspective that allows a view of the Bionis would be neat
- Clocktower (SOTN): I need my Dance of Pales, damn it
- Metropolitan Highway (Sonic Forces): Infinite would be a stage hazard here. Gorgeous level despite coming from a flawed game
- Wario Colosseum (Mario Kart Double Dash): This would be the most epic kart-based stage in Smash history. Prove me wrong (Pro-Tip: You can't)
- Hyrule/Lorule Castle (ALBW): Brace yourself for some artistic liberties. Yuga appears as a stage hazard that uses his scepter to forcibly draw all fighters in and out of both dimensions. The real estate on the roof of both Hyrule and Lorule differ, but the general idea is that you transfer from world to world just like the game itself

 

[Noipoi]

The Ultra Beasts should have been pokeball summons.

I'm so disappointed.

 

[Robertman2]

I want Joker's stage to be the Casino Palace so objectively best P5 girl can make a cameo

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

My first post here, hi everyone.
What are your dream picks for Smash, regardless of their chances, only your most wanted characters.

Welcome!

Anyways, my dream picks are:

• Sora

That's it.

If we're extending towards "I'd like these picks," then:

• Lloyd
• Steve
• Doomguy
• Monster Hunter
• Phoenix Wright
• Crash Bandicoot
• Erdrick
• Lara Croft
• Euden
• Rex & Pyra
• Yuri Lowell

 

[Noipoi]

I want Joker's stage to be the Casino Palace so objectively best P5 girl can make a cameo

I would know who the objectively best P5 girl was if I coULD PLAY PERSONA 5.

 

[R O F L]

I can't get the timing right on Incineroar's side-B when fighting online. The lag messes me up...

Canceling Inkling's Roller online is a nightmare. I already struggle with it offline, online's latency only makes it worse...

Still can't land their D-Air consistently, either. TBH I need to start playing online more; CPU is all I've fought the past week now and while that can be fun, it's horrible for any meaningful practice and doesn't let me practice certain things like mind games or mix-ups.

Worst of all, I can't even land -> shield because of the lag. I always end up air dodging before I touch the ground.

 

[Graizen]

QUESTION

Would you guys like a Super Smash Bros RPG?

 

[Alternis]

I just fought a Mario with 1 GSP, somehow. He just walked around slowly and never attacked me...
Though he was with a Marth of comparable GSP to me.

 

[Idon]

QUESTION

Would you guys like a Super Smash Bros RPG?

ANSWER:

NO.

 

[Wademan94]

- Wario Colosseum (Mario Kart Double Dash): This would be the most epic kart-based stage in Smash history. Prove me wrong (Pro-Tip: You can't)

At the very least I think the theme from that track would be fun to fight to.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So, eliminate the feature.

It's not a necessity to have Turn-To-Blue only effective in one character. That's not even the only thing it does to the character. It gives them a x1.7 damage boost. There's work arounds every where you look but only one reason to not have it available. Honestly, I would probably be more inclined to believe that 8-Player Smash wouldn't work well on it but even then I wouldn't figure that would be a reason to keep it out. Literally, the only two stages without a solid reason of not being there is the two 3DS stages. Rainbow Road and Pac-Maze.

Taking away the feature wouldn’t be doing the stage any favors though. Taking away something unique like that is like taking away all Smash Taunts, , or certain Assist characters...a pointless and needless thing to cut out

 

[Deleted member]

QUESTION

Would you guys like a Super Smash Bros RPG?

Yes.

Very much so. Especially if it played anything like a Mario RPG.

 

[Momotsuki]

Do you guys have any wild picks that you know will never ever happen but you'd love to see anyway? I do. Namely, Madotsuki from Yume Nikki. Given some of the effects, I actually think that in the alternate universe where this is a possibility, there'd be some mighty fine potential for a fun moveset. Just don't pull from that godawful remaster, and you've got yourself perfection. Again though, I don't expect this since it's really never going to happen, but I'd love it. I'll settle for Miis, though. Specifically, a Swordfighter, for reasons most obvious to those familiar with the character.

 

[RyuhoFox]

The Ultra Beasts should have been pokeball summons.

I'm so disappointed.

Im disappointed in the fact that outside the legends that ultra beasts aren't repped at all it seems. They were a big part of the marketing of the games and the stories of the games and they got nothing here.

 

[Iridium]

QUESTION

Would you guys like a Super Smash Bros RPG?

Depends on if someone randomly dies during the adventure or not.

 

[Wademan94]

What if for the Pac-Maze stage, instead of the ghosts flashing straight up blue, they flash the color of the player spot the fighter is in like Red for 1P, Blue for 2P, etc. They’d still have the same face when a Power Pellet is eaten, they just flash a different color depending on the player spot