Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Ramen Tengoku]

Well, then let's wait 20 more years to compare MC sales to whatever will be the "sold better than MC" game.

*Says sales don't matter*
*Makes statement basically saying that sales matter*

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

you know what all this minecraft talk makes me wanna do? play Dragon Quest Builders

 

[staindgrey]

Have you never eaten at her place before...

Spoiler: She got good food...and savage tweets

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I miss Wendy's.

Where I live now, I need to drive past three McDonald's, a Burger King, two Five Guys, a Popeyes, a Mod Pizza, two Taco Bells, a Taco Time, three fantastic sushi joints, a Mike's Drive-In, a Charley's, the mall food court and my cousin's Mexican restaurant where half the time they don't make me pay, just to get to the nearest Wendy's.

I don't think I've had a JBC in over a year.

 

[osby]

If Steve gets in, Sakurai better do what he did with and give him an unnecessary close up on his face while he stares lifelessly at us for a victory animation.

AND give him Wii Fit Trainer treatment and show his eyes uncomfortably close in his arcade ending.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I honestly thought you were talking about a different Wendy’s.

You mean this ?

My local Wendy's all don't give honey for some reason anymore. Which is sad since I loved dipping their fries and nuggets in honey when I ate there

that is a weird thing to be lacking

also horrible mistreatment of livestock and supporting artists who draw porn of their mascot based off of a very underaged girl but heyyyyyy they got funny tweets haha

and that’s why the internet ages everybody up most of the time (though newer Wendy is already older thanks to the modern era of the company)

I miss Wendy's.

Where I live now, I need to drive past three McDonald's, a Burger King, two Five Guys, a Popeyes, a Mod Pizza, two Taco Bells, a Taco Time, three fantastic sushi joints, a Mike's Drive-In, a Charley's, the mall food court and my cousin's Mexican restaurant where half the time they don't make me pay, just to get to the nearest Wendy's.

I don't think I've had a JBC in over a year.

well dam that’s a lot of driving for a Wendy’s

 

[Gentlepanda]

AND give him Wii Fit Trainer treatment and show his eyes uncomfortably close in his arcade ending.

yup, it's him

 

[Iridium]

AND give him Wii Fit Trainer treatment and show his eyes uncomfortably close in his arcade ending.

Add a Creeper AT too, while we're at it. Or make them the most annoying stage element in the game.

 

[staindgrey]

well dam that’s a lot of driving for a Wendy’s

Right??

Wendy's just didn't think my town was worth putting a franchise in. So **** 'em.

 

[GoeGoe]

So, just to give my two cents in response.

Saying that Tetris got people interested in gaming as a contrast to Minecraft, as if Minecraft didn't do the exact same thing for another generation, is disingenuous. Further, while you're absolutely right that Minecraft was sold in an era where far more people had access to and interest in video games, you forego two very important facts that counter that point: 1) It has significantly more competition for the spotlight than Tetris did in 1984, and 2) it still outsold all of said competition. By an incredibly large margin.

While sales don't necessarily indicate how good a game is, they do indicate its popularity and, in combination with pop culture presence and overall staying power, can be used to judge its cultural influence. Minecraft has nine times the active player base per month right now, ten years post-release, than the total amount of The Legend of Zelda games sold all time. Microsoft purchased the rights to Minecraft for more money than Disney bought Star Wars. Minecraft has its very own international convention. Just for Minecraft. By itself.

If none of this "proves establishment", I have no idea what possibly could.

Signed,

Someone Who Has Never Had Interest In Playing Minecraft

Tetris competition against lack of interest is a far harder than fighting for a spot in an established light.
I wasn't questioning popularity.. and so, Fortnite has about eleven times the growth of MC. As you say, says nothing about how good a game is.
Yet I wasn't talking sales establishment.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Right??

Wendy's just didn't think my town was worth putting a franchise in. So **** 'em.

Just hope she and her crew doesn’t find out you said that

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: Sandbox Fan Starter Pack

To have the perfect knowledge on the sandbox genre, play Minecraft alongside another game from this list

 

[RyuhoFox]

You mean this ?

that is a weird thing to be lacking

and that’s why the internet ages everybody up most of the time (though newer Wendy is already older thanks to the modern era of the company)

well dam that’s a lot of driving for a Wendy’s

Yeah. Had it for a while and just one day they didn't have them them anymore and the worker there made it seem like they weren't allowed to give out honey specifically anymore. Like all the other dipping sauces are fine still but just no honey. Wonder if there is something going on between the local ones and the place they usually get the honey from or something.
Also apparently the ones around where my boyfriend lives have like a big box of nuggets that mine doesn't which is sad.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Fortnite has about eleven times the growth of MC

HA HA HAAAAAAAA WHAT

Were you alive for the past 10 years?

 

[GoeGoe]

*Says sales don't matter*
*Makes statement basically saying that sales matter*

Wow! how slow should I go..
you know what, never mind.. carry on
boy I miss A.G.L.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

HA HA HAAAAAAAA WHAT

Were you alive for the past 10 years?

But Cla! Fortnite has 11 time the grow of *checks notes* a game that hugely impacted the industry caused pretty much every other game afterwards to try and cash in with crafting mechanics because they wanted a piece of that pie for the last decade with Fortnite being one of the many examples to try this

 

[staindgrey]

Tetris competition against lack of interest is a far harder than fighting for a spot in an established light.
I wasn't questioning popularity.. and so, Fortnite has about eleven times the growth of MC. As you say, says nothing about how good a game is.
Yet I wasn't talking sales establishment.

So, you pick and choose what you want to reply to, and that's fine. I think the thread has already made up its mind on this topic based on... well. Evidence. But.

I tried to find some sort of source for your "about eleven times the growth of MC" statement and so far haven't found anything remotely close to that statement. I did, however, find this from three months ago.

“Fortnite has certainly been a massive contributor to the growth on gaming [but] Minecraft is still our biggest game globally,” Wyatt says. “Fortnite has not taken off in every single market.”

So, would you mind sharing your source for Fortnite's overwhelming growth in comparison to Minecraft? (While also ignoring the fact that Fortnite has the financial muscle of Epic Games behind it, thus belittling your earlier point about Minecraft's corporate checkbook or whatever.)

 

[ClaTheBae]

But Cla! Fortnite has 11 time the grow of *checks notes* a game that hugely impacted the industry caused pretty much every other game afterwards to try and cash in with crafting mechanics because they wanted a piece of that pie for the last decade with Fortnite being one of the many examples to try this

Oh! Thank you small European Power Ranger girl, I see things much differently now!

 

[Deleted member]

Tl;dr

Minecraft is still huge, and nothing awful has happened because of it. Minecraft in Smash is as acceptable as any other franchise.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh! Thank you small European Power Ranger girl, I see things much differently now!

**** you I'm not small. Say that again and I'll bite your ankles

 

[GoeGoe]

So, you pick and choose what you want to reply to, and that's fine. I think the thread has already made up its mind on this topic based on... well. Evidence. But.

I tried to find some sort of source for your "about eleven times the growth of MC" statement and so far haven't found anything remotely close to that statement. I did, however, find this from three months ago.



So, would you mind sharing your source for Fortnite's overwhelming growth in comparison to Minecraft? (While also ignoring the fact that Fortnite has the financial muscle of Epic Games behind it, thus belittling your earlier point about Minecraft's corporate checkbook or whatever.)

So what pick? Didn't I reply to you?
MC: 10 yrs, 90 Mil.. FN: 1 yr, 125 Mil. That's 9:125... 13.888.. well +3 then

 

[LetterO]

Blo my god, that haunted ship. I remeber getting spooked by it on the wii, then I got to it on switch and was spooked x10

I saw "haunted ship" and immediately thought of the one from Super Metroid which also spooked the **** out of me.

 

[ClaTheBae]

So what pick? Didn't I reply to you?
MC: 10 yrs, 90 Mil.. FN: 1 yr, 125 Mil. That's 9:125... 13.888.. well +3 then

did you post a source on Fortnite having 125 million active players?

I'd really like to see where that number is from

 

[Deleted member]

So what pick? Didn't I reply to you?
MC: 10 yrs, 90 Mil.. FN: 1 yr, 125 Mil. That's 9:125... 13.888.. well +2 then

What is wrong with Minecraft being popular to this day?

You can dislike some of the fan-content online, but the game itself is actually solid and neat.

 

[Lollipopped]

Tetris competition against lack of interest is a far harder than fighting for a spot in an established light.
I wasn't questioning popularity.. and so, Fortnite has about eleven times the growth of MC.As you say, says nothing about how good a game is.
Yet I wasn't talking sales establishment.

fake news has entered the chat

 

[Gentlepanda]

What is wrong with Minecraft being popular to this day?

You can dislike some of the fan-content online, but the game itself is actually solid and neat.

why people like things i no like???

 

[ClaTheBae]

why people like things i no like???

obligatory

Spoiler: language

 

[GoeGoe]

What is wrong with Minecraft being popular to this day?

You can dislike some of the fan-content online, but the game itself is actually solid and neat.

Did I say such a thing?

 

[staindgrey]

So what pick? Didn't I reply to you?
MC: 10 yrs, 90 Mil.. FN: 1 yr, 125 Mil. That's 9:125... 13.888.. well +3 then

Uh. Where are you getting 125mil? Minecraft still has 13million more active users per month than Fortnite as of three months ago.

And how are you applying ten years to a monthly headcount of users? Normally user counts decline over time for online videogames, just as PUBG (Fortnite without Epic's budget) did. Minecraft is one of the only games ever to buck that trend. Using that against it, somehow, is just misconstruing the numbers to reflect a point you badly want to make.

 

[The Slayer]

What is wrong with Minecraft being popular to this day?

You can dislike some of the fan-content online, but the game itself is actually solid and neat.

It's the same reason why people don't like Fortnite. They just don't.

 

[Deleted member]

Did I say such a thing?

With the Fortnite stuff, it seems like you don’t like its popularity.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Uh. Where are you getting 125mil? Minecraft still has 13million more active users per month than Fortnite as of three months ago.

And how are you applying ten years to a monthly headcount of users? Normally user counts decline over time for online videogames, just as PUBG (Fortnite without Epic's budget) did. Minecraft is one of the only games ever to buck that trend. Using that against it, somehow, is just misconstruing the numbers to reflect a point you want to make.

There is also the point that Fortnite is free to play. The fact that minecraft, which is a game you must pay for, still averages equal or more players than Fortnite only goes to show that Minecraft's impact and growth is much much bigger than any game in the last 10 years

 

[Gentlepanda]

Uh. Where are you getting 125mil? Minecraft still has 13million more active users per month than Fortnite as of three months ago.

And how are you applying ten years to a monthly headcount of users? Normally user counts decline over time for online videogames, just as PUBG (Fortnite without Epic's budget) did. Minecraft is one of the only games ever to buck that trend. Using that against it, somehow, is just misconstruing the numbers to reflect a point you badly want to make.

i think he's mistaking 125 million accounts for 125 million active users

 

[Deleted member]

There is also the point that Fortnite is free to play. The fact that minecraft, which is a game you must pay for, still averages equal or more players than Fortnite only goes to show that Minecraft's impact and growth is much much bigger than any game in the last 10 years

I have memories about a free version of Minecraft that me and my cousins played, doh.

Maybe it was a limited-time offer.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

obligatory

Spoiler: language

People whenever I say Banjo is boring in comparison to what else Microsoft would be able to offer. No joke, somehow tried to shame me for saying that lmao

 

[GoeGoe]

Uh. Where are you getting 125mil? Minecraft still has 13million more active users per month than Fortnite as of three months ago.

And how are you applying ten years to a monthly headcount of users? Normally user counts decline over time for online videogames, just as PUBG (Fortnite without Epic's budget) did. Minecraft is one of the only games ever to buck that trend. Using that against it, somehow, is just misconstruing the numbers to reflect a point you badly want to make.

I wasn't talking monthly active players count. You went for that.

With the Fortnite stuff, it seems like you don’t like its popularity.

You're better than assumptions.

 

[Gentlepanda]

People whenever I say Banjo is boring in comparison to what else Microsoft would be able to offer. No joke, somehow tried to shame me for saying that lmao

smash cross appears

trailer starts with a black screen

there's a strange, spacey ambience

the wind picks up slowly

a ghostly choir drifts gently in

 

[ClaTheBae]

People whenever I say Banjo is boring in comparison to what else Microsoft would be able to offer. No joke, somehow tried to shame me for saying that lmao

Well you aren't wrong. Microsoft most likely wouldn't be able to recreate what many people enjoyed in Banjo Kazooie anyway.
Hell, the the original Banjo devs who helped make Yooka Laylee couldn't even get it right


Edit: I see now that you meant a character. My point still stands

 

[osby]

obligatory

Spoiler: language

I feel this on a personal level.

 

[Idon]

I have memories about a free version of Minecraft that me and my cousins played, doh.

Maybe it was a limited-time offer.

No.
That was more of a demo like deal where you played on a severely gimped version of a very early release of minecraft.
Minecraft's something that you always paid for since the beginning.

 

[Deleted member]

No.
That was more of a demo like deal where you played on a severely gimped version of a very early release of minecraft.
Minecraft's something that you always paid for since the beginning.

Thanks for the clarification.

I have my doubts, so i posted to see if someone could help me understand what was the version that i played.