Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[osby]

a boo-what

Read The Hunting of the Snark.

 

[Will]

Well for one thing your attitude is not that good. Ending discussion

Your loss. Maybe we can settle this in Smash.

I don't believe that Joker was a cram project. I'd wager that his trailer, with all its unique frames, would've taken three weeks at the least to animate, maybe two if you really push past ethical work schedules - but you'd need a long comfortable time to have it ready by the time its non-negotiable deadline came, while contacting both the Japanese and the English VAs to do a short script. Sakurai's column on the subject also suggests that the request was neither inconvenient nor unexpected, and we already knew none of the Fighter Pass DLCs had had any work on them done yet, so it's not surprising that any of them would've had gameplay footage ready.

This feels like suggesting King K. Rool was thrown into the August Direct just to throw the leakers off, when there was just way too much ready in his reveal for that to have been rushed in. To Vergeben's credit, he never tried to justify how that one slipped out from under him, so I don't know why he's pushing this idea now that Joker is the first DLC because of his tie-ins to the 2017 Game Awards (which isn't something I'd say really defines Persona 5.)

He sounds more commited to this Square Enix idea, even putting his bets down on the franchise being Dragon Quest. Guess we'll see how that turns out.

Eh, he was hellbent on Kencineroar, and look how that turned out for him.

Might be the same "source".

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

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Your loss. Maybe we can settle this in Smash.

Just drop it, please.

 

[Deleted member]

Oops didn't even know you posted a video ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I would appreciate some thoughts.

I can't think of another way to show myself playing Smash.

 

[Pakky]

And one that causes this to happen, no less!

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デデデがついにいかれました pic.twitter.com/7dsByu8Tv5

— ユッキー（Vtuberメインのアカウントはロックされました） (@Kyuki0711) December 25, 2018

That made my day, thank you.

 

[Will]

Read The Hunting of the Snark.

Sorry, I'm illiterate.

Just drop it, please.

Maybe the problem is constantly quoting me to persuade me to quote you back.
The solution is to not click the button. Including this post. Just don't touch it. I won't touch it if you don't.

Spoiler

he doesn't want to play smash bruddas with me

 

[Wademan94]

Sorry, I'm illiterate.

“Illiterate” they wrote out in text responding to a message written out in text...

 

[Will]

“Illiterate” they wrote out in text...
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Text to speech baybeeeee

 

[Deleted member]

I’ll post it again.

 

[Pakky]

I’ll post it again.

Man the lv9s are good this time, which is good practice.

 

[Aurane]

Maybe the problem is constantly quoting me to persuade me to quote you back.

This is like that one Dr. Seuss book where the dudes won't get out of each others' way so the other can cross.

 

[Pakky]

This basically how I deal with sword characters now.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I’ll post it again.

how on earth can you fight a ganon and not be scared ****less?

 

[Deleted member]

how on earth can you fight a ganon and not be scared ****less?

Why should i be scared?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Also how many times can one strike back?

As many times as needed

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

how on earth can you fight a ganon and not be scared ****less?

He’s not that scary if you’re playing a Belmont but if you let him get close, you can’t afford to make a mistake or you’re done for.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Why should i be scared?

Its GANON. Ganons always used to kick my ass from Smash right back to Animal Crossing on N64 and I go "Oh no" whenever I see one

 

[Will]

The computer won a match for me? How can this happen?


Also how many times can one strike back?

I'm pretty sure Evolution is a number.

 

[staindgrey]

I dunno. Given how Capcom operate, that sounds more like they don't have the faith in Leon that they do say, Chris, Jill or even Nemesis, for a crossover, let alone Smash.

Disagreed. Leon's been their poster boy many times, including for Capcom's biggest release of 2019. Their MvC choices need context.

MvC2 had Jill likely because, at the time, she had the most iconic design. Chris was just kind of Army-Man-With-Kneepads, and Leon was Police Officer. Jill had the beret and shoulder pads that were more immediately identifiable for a Dreamcast-era game that relied on 2D sprites, and unlike the other two, she'd been the star of two games up to that point. Chris and Leon each had one.

MvC3 cast Wesker as the Capcom side's main villain. As such, they put Chris opposite him, since Chris is Wesker's recurring enemy. Wesker and Leon never met. Then they added Jill as DLC to complete the RE5 Trifecta. In UMvC3, all these characters got recycled, but then they added Nemesis for another heavy and a nod to classic RE. They could have used Leon or Claire or Berkin or any number of other characters, but they chose Nemesis. Probably for variety since MvC3 has SO many basic human shapes.

Finally, MvCi was a trainwreck that they cobbled together using a bunch of assets from MvC3, which is why characters like Spencer, Nemesis and Chris-- specifically RE5 Chris, and not his RE6/RE7 updates-- were recycled, animations and all. While they chose not to add Leon, they chose not to add a lot of things.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Also how many times can one strike back?

I’m so excited for this. I wonder who will do the English voice this time.

EDIT: I also hope they don’t “dumb” down the dubbed version like the original film did.

 

[Deleted member]

I wish that they launched on iTunes or Spotify the OSTs for Mewtwo Strikes Back, Pokémon 2 and the Darkrai movie.

Those three are my favourite ones.

 

[Aurane]

The only Ganondorf I'm concerned of is good trolldorfs. You know- the one that kills you and t-bags you so you get riled up and use that rage to kill you again. That mother ******.

Zero.

 

[Will]

Leon Kennedy?
Jill Valentine?
Wesker?
Nemesis?

You all disappoint me.

JACK BAKER FOR SMASH BABY

 

[staindgrey]

I wish that they launched on iTunes or Spotify the OSTs for Mewtwo Strikes Back, Pokémon 2 and the Darkrai movie.

Those three are my favourite ones.

I still have the Pokemon the First Movie soundtrack from my childhood.

Get owned.

 

[Deleted member]

The only Ganondorf I'm concerned of is good trolldorfs. You know- the one that kills you and t-bags you so you get riled up and use that rage to kill you again. That mother ******.

Zero.

Zero the player?

Or zero as a number?

I still have the Pokemon the First Movie soundtrack from my childhood.

Get owned.

I get owned at worst by half of this planet everyday.

Nothing new.

Leon Kennedy?
Jill Valentine?
Wesker?
Nemesis?

You all disappoint me.

JACK BAKER FOR SMASH BABY

No.

Tofu from RE2.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Leon Kennedy?
Jill Valentine?
Wesker?
Nemesis?

You all disappoint me.

JACK BAKER FOR SMASH BABY

Jack was really a nice guy at heart but good lord, was he one terrifying mf.

 

[Aurane]

Zero the player?

Or zero as a number?

Both if you want me to be honest. Mostly the player. A bit of the number. They're both the same thing I suppose.

 

[staindgrey]

Leon Kennedy?
Jill Valentine?
Wesker?
Nemesis?

You all disappoint me.

JACK BAKER FOR SMASH BABY

You know what's hilarious. I keep forgetting his name is Jack.

If you've ever watched MST3K, there's a recurring terrible actor named Joe Don Baker. And when my brother and I played the RE7 demo, we couldn't remember his first name; we just remembered that they were the Bakers. So we made a joke out of getting chased by Joe Don Baker.

When we played RE7 together on launch night, the joke persisted and we kept running from "Joe Don Baker" and making MST3K references. To this day, every time I see him, I think, "Joe Don Baker".

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

MvC2 had Jill likely because, at the time, she had the most iconic design. Chris was just kind of Army-Man-With-Kneepads, and Leon was Police Officer.

Well if we're going by designs nowadays, would Leon be considered the most iconic looking in the present??

unlike the other two, she'd been the star of two games up to that point. Chris and Leon each had one.

Well, arguably all three are tied in some shape or form. And in regards for a Smash appearance? Eh, that's iffy.

MvC3 cast Wesker as the Capcom side's main villain. As such, they put Chris opposite him, since Chris is Wesker's recurring enemy. Wesker and Leon never met. Then they added Jill as DLC to complete the RE5 Trifecta. In UMvC3, all these characters got recycled, but then they added Nemesis for another heavy and a nod to classic RE. They could have used Leon or Claire or Berkin or any number of other characters, but they chose Nemesis. Probably for variety since MvC3 has SO many basic human shapes.

Finally, MvCi was a trainwreck that they cobbled together using a bunch of assets from MvC3, which is why characters like Spencer, Nemesis and Chris-- specifically RE5 Chris, and not his RE6/RE7 updates-- were recycled, animations and all. While they chose not to add Leon, they chose not to add a lot of things.

I dunno man. They didn't even choose Leon for DLC in MvC: I. I'm not saying that they hate him or anything, but I feel he's kinda in a Richter Belmont situation. He might be the most popular within the franchise fanbase, but Chris and Jill tend to be considered the faces of the series, more recongizable.....and uh, well Nemesis has been big enough to make numerous appearances in media spreading across. Dude even got into the Project x Zone series before Kennedy did.

 

[Deleted member]

This is the perfect RE rep, and we will all love this legend in the end.

 

[praline]

If Leon was added that would make Matthew Mercer have 2 characters in Smash.

...I’d prefer Jill though as everyone should know by now.

 

[Wademan94]

If Leon was added that would make Matthew Mercer have 2 characters in Smash.

He can join David Vincent and by extension Xander Mobus

 

[Deleted member]

If Leon was added that would make Matthew Mercer have 2 characters in Smash.

...I’d prefer Jill though as everyone should know by now.

I would love to see any of the two in...

...And maybe a Tofu Spirit battle, if i am honest.

 

[praline]

He can join David Vincent and by extension Xander Mobus

Xander would have 3 if you count the announer as a character.

4 if he voices Crazy Hand too

 

[staindgrey]

Well if we're going by designs nowadays, would Leon be considered the most iconic looking in the present??

Arguably, yes, in large part due to his starring role in RE4, the most critically acclaimed RE game in history, and his upcoming role in the RE2 Remake. I was mentioning Jill's look specifically because she was drawn for an early Dreamcast era fighting game relying on bright colors and popping character designs. 3D modeling changes things entirely. I mean, even Frank West has made it into two fighting games, and he's literally just dude-with-camera.

I dunno man. They didn't even choose Leon for DLC in MvC: I. I'm not saying that they hate him or anything, but I feel he's kinda in a Richter Belmont situation. He might be the most popular within the franchise fanbase, but Chris and Jill tend to be considered the faces of the series, more recongizable.....and uh, well Nemesis has been big enough to make numerous appearances in media spreading across. Dude even got into the Project x Zone series before Kennedy did.

Spoiler: The many box arts of Leon S. Kennedy:

To be clear, Chris is my favorite character. Jill is my choice for Smash. But Capcom has marketed the hell out of Leon for two decades. Chris and Jill, as I outlined before, were chosen for their major crossover due to timing and circumstance, and likely the fact that both of them are tied to the series's main villain, and each other. Leon is more of a loner. They use all their characters individually, but unlike Chris, Leon's never played second fiddle on his own box art. Any time he's in a game, he's front and center in the promotional art.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Xander would have 3 if you count the announer as a character.

4 if he voices Crazy Hand too

He does voice Crazy Hand.

 

[praline]

I would love to see any of the two in...

...And maybe a Tofu Spirit battle, if i am honest.

A Nemesis spirit battle involving green skin Ganondorf holding a super scope too!

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I feel like Resident Evil is underestimated as far as characters.

I have a weird feeling it could very well be a DLC pack. Leon, Raccoon City...just not sure about the music.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Xander would have 3 if you count the announer as a character.

4 if he voices Crazy Hand too

Xander is all over this game

 

[staindgrey]

If Leon was added that would make Matthew Mercer have 2 characters in Smash.

...I’d prefer Jill though as everyone should know by now.

As would I.

#GimmemyJillSandwich