Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Wyoming]

Some people hate change for some reason. Like, I'm looking for free-for-alls, but if I have to do a one-on-one match, at least make it in Battlefield with three stocks. Or anything with three stocks, why two stocks is even a thing?

People still pretend it is Smash 4. That's why people are also keen on Omegas more than Battlefield, viable stages or good Hazardless stages. Even in Arenas they dominate.

Hopefully it will eventually go down when people realize this game is too aggressive for two stocks.

 

[Deleted member]

Why even 3 stock with 3:00 min? What are we gonna do? Fart around until Sudden Death?


5-7 please, also if you have could folks just not pick 'hazards off' cuz it gets real ****ty having to chase you down in paper Mario.

Don’t look at me.

I don’t even pay for the Online Service.

 

[Lollipopped]

Hopefully by the time I get Smash Ultimate they fix the online issues. 'Cause at this point, it honestly sounds like a bubbling hot mess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Pakky]

People still pretend it is Smash 4. That's why people are also keen on Omegas more than Battlefield, viable stages or good Hazardless stages. Even in Arenas they dominate.

Hopefully it will eventually go down when people realize this game is too aggressive for two stocks.

Heck yeah it is, I played this weekend and found out he can move...

Like he can actually move around like a real character, I was blown away, also is nasty.

 

[Wyoming]

Hopefully by the time I get Smash Ultimate they fix the online issues. 'Cause at this point, it honestly sounds like a bubbling hot mess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's not that bad. First week it was unreliable. Nowadays it does the job more often than not.

If that's the cost for playing on other stages besides flat ones I'll take it.

 

[---]

Apparently Vergeben said some new things (according to Smashwikis list of rumors). The Square-Rep is possibly a Dragon Quest-Character (possibily Erdrick or Luminary) and was originally planned to be revealed at the Game Awards.

Any thoughts about it?

This is probably my most preferred outcome, should it happen. A new series rep, let alone from the godfather of console RPG/JRPGs.

That said, I ironically struggle to think of how a moveset would work for a character from a game series that mainly uses a 1st person perspectives. I should really get around to playing Dragon Quest Builders.

 

[Deleted member]

There are two types of players who pick FD online, those who are too used to For Glory and those who are using a character who relies on projectiles.
**** the latter group.

 

[Deleted member]

Hopefully by the time I get Smash Ultimate they fix the online issues. 'Cause at this point, it honestly sounds like a bubbling hot mess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's...not too bad, there's just things about it that frustrate me. TBH a lot of what I posted earlier was just venting, I truly believe it isn't as bad as older attempts at online from Nintendo.

I wouldn't call it good, though. It's bad, but...usable? That's the best way I can describe it. Just use Arenas when you play, it makes it a lot more tolerable.

 

[Deleted member]

There are two types of players who pick FD online, those who are too used to For Glory and those who are using a character who relies on projectiles.
**** the latter group.

What if i main Samus, but I never spam projectiles and dislike Final Destination mode?

 

[Lollipopped]

Apparently Vergeben said some new things (according to Smashwikis list of rumors). The Square-Rep is possibly a Dragon Quest-Character (possibily Erdrick or Luminary) and was originally planned to be revealed at the Game Awards.

Any thoughts about it?

Is Vergeben still considered reliable these days?

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Then like, 95% of the people would be in Elite Smash.

Heh, you’re saying that like Elite Smash is considered Grandmaster/Challenger rank in most games with competitive modes.

 

[Will]

Heh, you’re saying that like Elite Smash is considered Grandmaster/Challenger rank in most games with competitive modes.

It really is if you want to keep it, considering even the highest gaps are nothing but 300k beyond the entry point.

 

[Wyoming]

There are two types of players who pick FD online, those who are too used to For Glory and those who are using a character who relies on projectiles.
**** the latter group.

Basically.

Obviously I don't mind the odd game on flat stages due to MU and/or character advantages but generally speaking any other option is more balanced than Omegas.

I don't blame people not going hazards off in Quickplay since that is way too unreliable but in customized-Random Arenas? No reason not to. I turn off all the unviable stages except Kongo Falls sometimes due to personal bias. It's fair game then.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

It really is if you want to keep it, considering even the highest gaps are nothing but 300k beyond the entry point.

Considering how easy it is, it should be Gold at most and that’s just me being generous.

 

[PeridotGX]

Honestly my online experience hasn't been too bad. I can count the number of Items On matches I've had on one hand. The only real problem is sometimes I'm matched up on a terrible stage (Mario Bros and Auto-scrollers), but those are still pretty uncommon (And usually I can tell it's Hazards Off, so there was at least good intentions).

 

[Will]

There are two types of players who pick FD online, those who are too used to For Glory and those who are using a character who relies on projectiles.
**** the latter group.

I VANQUISH THE DARKNESS

 

[Pakky]

Is Vergeben still considered reliable these days?

We REALLY need to see the rest of the future/DLC content cuz the Joker stuff was not mentioned by anyone 'big'

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So...does no one use the Break The Targets theme ever? Somehow, it just blends in well in almost any situation.

I use Sand Ocean because it goes along with the animation of the others tokens fighting for some reason

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Is Vergeben still considered reliable these days?

After Joker’s reveal I would take anything that Verge says now with a fine grain of salt.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: Video where i show a match where i play as Varia Samus

 

[Deleted member]

Is Vergeben still considered reliable these days?

Like with all insiders, it's always good to leave room for doubt.

He's gotten a ton right, but he was extremely insistent on SE character being the first reveal. Not saying him being wrong here invalidates him or makes the SE thing fake, but I'm curious if the reveal timing was something his sources told him, or was it a guess on his part?

 

[Will]

After Joker’s reveal I would take anything that Verge says now with a fine grain of salt.

Yeah, he was just lucky by getting mostly everything 100% correct.

It was all a coincidence and anyone who disagrees is dumb, wrong, and also dumb.

 

[Deleted member]

Do i suck in the game?

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Yeah, he was just lucky by getting mostly everything 100% correct.

It was all a coincidence and anyone who disagrees is dumb, wrong, and also dumb.

I never said that. You’re putting words in my mouth. I never said he wasn’t credible at all. He did, however, take a hit after Joker’s reveal which imo, gave him a pretty big L.

 

[Will]

I never said. You’re putting words in my mouth. I never said he wasn’t credible at all. It did however take a hit after Joker’s reveal which imo, gave him a pretty big L.

Never said it was you. It's called comedy

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Never said it was you. It's called comedy

Well, the snark wasn’t appreciated, thanks.

 

[Lollipopped]

Do i suck in the game?

If you pick then yeah ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[osby]

If you pick then yeah ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why would I pick him when I can have the perfect suck?

 

[Deleted member]

If you pick then yeah ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I was talking in regards to the video i posted.

 

[Will]

Well, the snark isn’t appreciated, thanks.

I know Pokemon are imaginary animals the actual definition of snark but they are useful creatures. If you mean snarky then you're out of luck.

Why would I pick him when I can have the perfect suck?

All you need to do is crouch and you win the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Why would I pick him when I can have the perfect suck?

Penguins are always the best.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I know Pokemon are imaginary animals the actual definition of snark but they are useful creatures. If you mean snarky then you're out of luck.

You don’t know when to stop do you?

 

[Deleted member]

Why would I pick him when I can have the perfect suck?

And one that causes this to happen, no less!

Spoiler

デデデがついにいかれました pic.twitter.com/7dsByu8Tv5

— ユッキー（Vtuberメインのアカウントはロックされました） (@Kyuki0711) December 25, 2018

 

[osby]

I know Pokemon are imaginary animals the actual definition of snark but they are useful creatures. If you mean snarky then you're out of luck.

Unless they are a Boojum

 

[Deleted member]

Do i suck as a Samus player?

 

[Will]

You don’t know when to stop do you?

I know when to have a good laugh. You're taking this very seriously.

Unless they are a Boojum

a boo-what

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I know when to have a good laugh. You're taking this very seriously

Well for one thing your attitude is not that good. Ending discussion

 

[ProfPeanut]

I don't believe that Joker was a cram project. I'd wager that his trailer, with all its unique frames, would've taken three weeks at the least to animate, maybe two if you really push past ethical work schedules - but you'd need a long comfortable time to have it ready by the time its non-negotiable deadline came, while contacting both the Japanese and the English VAs to do a short script. Sakurai's column on the subject also suggests that the request was neither inconvenient nor unexpected, and we already knew none of the Fighter Pass DLCs had had any work on them done yet, so it's not surprising that any of them would've had gameplay footage ready.

This feels like suggesting King K. Rool was thrown into the August Direct just to throw the leakers off, when there was just way too much ready in his reveal for that to have been rushed in. To Vergeben's credit, he never tried to justify how that one slipped out from under him, so I don't know why he's pushing this idea now that Joker is the first DLC because of his tie-ins to the 2017 Game Awards (which isn't something I'd say really defines Persona 5.)

He sounds more commited to this Square Enix idea, even putting his bets down on the franchise being Dragon Quest. Guess we'll see how that turns out.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I should really get around to playing Dragon Quest Builders.

yes. yes you really should
and gets DQB2 when it comes out too

 

[Lollipopped]

I was talking in regards to the video i posted.

Oops didn't even know you posted a video ¯\_(ツ)_/¯