Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

So...What would Snake be then? American or Japanese?

You know you can totally be both, right?

 

[Opossum]

But Pokemon is its own setting. Not in our world.

Tell that to Gen I being ambiguous as hell with it, with Guyana, India, and the United States all being explicitly mentioned.

 

[SHOTOMAN]

Depending on how you interpret the cloning and what constitutes nationality, you can make a case for being Guyanan.

Oh yeah that was thing in the first season of the Anime right?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

You know you can totally be both, right?

True, true. Guess I would then list him as American/Japanese.

 

[KMDP]

So...What would Snake be then? American or Japanese?

He's American.

Big Boss, his father, is American, and he was raised in America.

I'm pretty sure saying that Snake has Japanese blood is just a way to get the Japanese players to relate to him.

 

[Idon]

But Pokemon is its own setting. Not in our world.

But then how did Raichu and Gastly take down an Indian Elephant?

 

[Will]

But then how did Raichu and Gastly take down an Indian Elephant?

Then where is the ****ing Kanto region on Earth

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Ya know I always heard rumors of animals in our real world existing in the world of Pokemon. I guess that's where it comes from this whole USA, India and Guyana thing comes from...

 

[KMDP]

Then where is the ****ing Kanto region on Earth

Japan, duh.

 

[Wademan94]

Then where is the ****ing Kanto region on Earth

In Japan. Where else?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantō_region

EDIT: ‘ed

 

[Noipoi]

But Pokemon is its own setting. Not in our world.

Tell that to South America where Mew hangs out.

 

[Opossum]

Oh yeah that was thing in the first season of the Anime right?

Straight from the games, actually. One of the journals in the Cinnabar Mansion mentions that Mew was discovered in Guyana.

 

[Will]

Japan, duh.

In Japan. Where else?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantō_region

EDIT: ‘ed

See you later, losers. I'm going to catch me a Mewtwo.

 

[Wademan94]

Tell that to South America where Mew hangs out.

I thought he hung out under a truck in the Kanto region?

 

[Noipoi]

Straight from the games, actually. One of the journals in the Cinnabar Mansion mentions that Mew was discovered in Guyana.

It's really funny to go back to original Pokemon media before Gamefreak had a grasp on how they wanted this world to be.

One of my favorite examples.

What kinda Pokemon are these?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So if all the Pokemon regions exist in our world. Where exactly are they located then?

 

[Opossum]

Basically the way I see it is that real life things/places exist in the Pokémon world until something equivalent replaces it. Like how recent games say Lt. Surge is Unovan instead of American.

So until we get a region based on South America I say Mewtwo should count as Guyanan.

 

[KMDP]

Ya know I always heard rumors of animals in our real world existing in the world of Pokemon. I guess that's where it comes from this whole USA, India and Guyana thing comes from...

I'm pretty sure the very early anime (up to around the First Movie) has generic fish in it here and there.

Eventually, The Pokémon Company decided to phase out all references to the real world, though it's worth noting that not only does Cinnabar Island directly name Guyana, and some Pokédex entries reference African Elephants as a metric; the Space Shuttle in the Pewter Museum was originally the Space Shuttle Columbia (removed in FRLG for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who knows what happened to the Columbia).

 

[Noipoi]

So if all the Pokemon regions exist in our world. Where exactly are they located then?

Simple.

Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh are all regions in Japan. So they're where Japan would be on the globe.
Unova is North America, with elements of New York specifically. So put Unova where America would be.
Kalos is France, put Kalos where France would be.
Alola=Hawaii, so it's where Hawaii is on the globe.

 

[PsySmasher]

So if all the Pokemon regions exist in our world. Where exactly are they located then?

All of the Pokémon regions are based off of real world places.

Kanto, Johto and Hoenn are based off of Japan
Kalos is based off of France
Alola is based off of Hawaii
I don’t remember what Sinnoh and Unova are based off of

‘d by the true Pokémon expert Noipoi

 

[Wademan94]

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What kinda Pokemon are these?

Probably still better than these losers:

 

[Bionichute]

Lemme guess, these two?
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nah the other one

So...What would Snake be then? American or Japanese?

a kojima plot

 

[Graizen]

Pokémon - Real World
Digimon - Digital World

But! All Digimon can travel to the Real World.

And Porygon can go to the Digital World. Just Porygon.

Digimon > Pokémon

 

[KMDP]

It's really funny to go back to original Pokemon media before Gamefreak had a grasp on how they wanted this world to be.

One of my favorite examples.
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What kinda Pokemon are these?

What kind of Pokémon are you?
How do you do the things you do?
Share with me your secrets deep inside.

These are obviously pre-alpha designs for Remoraid and Manbo1.

(Fun Fact: Had Manbo1 actually made it to the final design stages, that wouldn't have been it's name; "[Concept]#" is how the Pokémon Company names Pokémon when designing them; an example is "Dragon4" that appeared in the concepts for Capsule Monsters).

 

[Wademan94]

nah the other one

This one then?

 

[osby]

Pokémon - Real World
Digimon - Digital World

But! All Digimon can travel to the Real World.

And Porygon can go to the Digital World. Just Porygon.

Digimon > Pokémon

I know user awards were a thing last night, but you should get the "Best Mental Gymnastic" award.

 

[perfectchaos83]

literally only one visual novel character is even ever going to be considered for smash bros and its a first party one from the 80s

God how I wish Ayumi would be in Smash.

 

[Will]

I know user awards were a thing last night, but you should get the "Best Mental Gymnastic" award.

aw dang i didnt even win anything did i

 

[PsySmasher]

I know user awards were a thing last night, but you should get the "Best Mental Gymnastic" award.

Wait... since when did we have user awards?

 

[Noipoi]

aw dang i didnt even win anything did i

You won the best sass award.

Congratulations!

 

[osby]

Wait... since when did we have user awards?

Long story.

aw dang i didnt even win anything did i

It's not a big deal. I got the best character supporter and everyone who knows me knows that's bull.

 

[Noipoi]

Wait... since when did we have user awards?

We don't, it's just a silly thing that may or may not end in disaster.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

God how I wish Ayumi would be in Smash.

What would her moveset be? I played the second game (the only one that was in English to my knowledge) and she was just a run of the mill teenaged girl with a strong sense of justice. I saw literally nothing in her character that could be feasibly made into a moveset.

 

[Will]

You won the best sass award.

Congratulations!

finally, i'm recognized for my greatest strengths

 

[Wademan94]

I know user awards were a thing last night, but you should get the "Best Mental Gymnastic" award.

Have I shown any potential for an award yet or do I need to stick around here longer?

 

[Will]

What would her moveset be? I played the second game (the only one that was in English to my knowledge) and she was just a run of the mill teenaged girl with a strong sense of justice. I saw literally nothing in her character that could be feasibly made into a moveset.

and yet phoenix wright, the gender swap equivalent but legal, had a whole moveset in MvC and you don't question it whatsoever

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What would her moveset be? I played the second game (the only one that was in English to my knowledge) and she was just a run of the mill teenaged girl with a strong sense of justice. I saw literally nothing in her character that could be feasibly made into a moveset.

Dude if Sakurai can pull off a moveset for then I'm pretty certain Ayumi won't be any issue.

 

[KMDP]

What would her moveset be? I played the second game (the only one that was in English to my knowledge) and she was just a run of the mill teenaged girl with a strong sense of justice. I saw literally nothing in her character that could be feasibly made into a moveset.

Back in Melee, Sakurai would have come up with something.

Using the most deadly of weapons, a school bag.

 

[Will]

Dude if Sakurai can pull off a moveset for then I'm pretty certian Ayumi won't be any issue.

Okay how is a part of that group

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Okay how is a part of that group

It was a mistake I meant to add