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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I am fine with something in the style of Mario Maker, tbh.
I say that and give the stage random settings like sometimes set in different realms. Like the regular realm or whatever it is called that you spend most of your time in, Nether realm, and then that dragons realm.
 

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isn't there a whole thing where minecraft fans hate what they've been doing with minecraft for the last whatever amount of updates
 

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dragon quest builders is actually really fun and plays with the conventions of the standard dragon quest formula, and even has a really interesting take on a certain moment from the end of the very first dragon quest

builders 2 looks like its going to be doing the same thing but with dq2 so thats neat
 

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when you hear "minecraft but with dragon quest" you don't expect an actually interesting take on the series that appeals to both old fans and new fans but here we are
 

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Cloud is literally just a guy with a big sword, yet I don't remember anyone back in the day dismissing Cloud because he was too basic...
Cloud isn’t a generic avatar with no story or personality.

Extremely subjective, but even then, you might change your idea with his moveset.



This doesn't make sense, just look how many unique mechanics Bayonetta have.



How do you know they'll have a crafting mechanic?
What on earth do you mean with Bayonetta? How is she unique mechanically compared to other fighters? If anything a better example would be Ryu.

And if Steve doesn’t have a crafting mechanic, he brings literally NOTHING to the table other than brand recognition and a pickaxe.
 

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Ya know?
You'd think that because they developed both Smash 4 and Ultimate, that Bandai Namco would get a lot of love in the character department,
but nope... Just PAC-MAN...
Namco ain’t greedy I guess
Cloud is literally just a guy with a big sword, yet I don't remember anyone back in the day dismissing Cloud because he was too basic...
Jokes on you, I didn’t even know him beforehand
 
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I think that the 6th stage might be the Minecraft content Verge is certain of.
If i recall correctly, Verge has claimed that the Minecraft content was a boss. So either he's wrong for the 1st time in regards to Smash info or he's right and we're getting a Minecraft boss somewhere down the line (as part of a DLC maybe?). I don't have the source but i'm fairly sure he claimed that back in early december.

There's always the possibility that he's right about the Minecraft boss but just unaware about more Minecraft content (a stage. some spirits and/or Steve).
 

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If i recall correctly, Verge has claimed that the Minecraft content was a boss. So either he's wrong for the 1st time in regards to Smash info or he's right and we're getting a Minecraft boss somewhere down the line (as part of a DLC maybe?). I don't have the source but i'm fairly sure he claimed that back in early december.

There's always the possibility that he's right about the Minecraft boss but just unaware about more Minecraft content (a stage. some spirits and/or Steve).
i still think he heard about it, but just fell for a lie
 

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If i recall correctly, Verge has claimed that the Minecraft content was a boss. So either he's wrong for the 1st time in regards to Smash info or he's right and we're getting a Minecraft boss somewhere down the line (as part of a DLC maybe?). I don't have the source but i'm fairly sure he claimed that back in early december.

There's always the possibility that he's right about the Minecraft boss but just unaware about more Minecraft content (a stage. some spirits and/or Steve).
I mean this isn’t the first time he would be wrong. He, along other leakers mind you, said a Square Enix Rep would be revealed first for DLC.

smash is fun btw haven’t said that yet
 

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Name a character..
- Not your ultimate wish.
- Originated from a game.
- E-rated.
- Not talked about much.
- No one expects to join Smash.
- Either popular or have a history in gaming.
- Adds real significance to Smash.
Tetromino.

Steve from Minecraft is the biggest gaming character not yet in Smash Bros. People would hate him being included in the game, period. But he's the biggest.
Again, Tetromino.
 

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I'm mad. About a day's worth of time put into the Adventure Mode and I'm sitting here wasting more hours trying to find whatever .33% I'm missing for a 100%.

Has anyone else had this happen? I swear, I've looked everywhere on the maps and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Oh, and also, Dr. Wily (when I was a bit underpowered, at least), Akuma, and that fight with Corrin or Lucina and a giant Kirby are the main standouts for me when it comes to me actually having a hard time. There's probably some more I'm missing, cause I know I was prettt stressed for quite a few fights; I was also annoyed because my one joy-con"s joystick keeps making me want to go left without any input from me and it was sometimes a struggle to even move right.
 

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I'm mad. About a day's worth of time put into the Adventure Mode and I'm sitting here wasting more hours trying to find whatever .33% I'm missing for a 100%.

Has anyone else had this happen? I swear, I've looked everywhere on the maps and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Oh, and also, Dr. Wily (when I was a bit underpowered, at least), Akuma, and that fight with Corrin or Lucina and a giant Kirby are the main standouts for me when it comes to me actually having a hard time. There's probably some more I'm missing, cause I know I was prettt stressed for quite a few fights; I was also annoyed because my one joy-con"s joystick keeps making me want to go left without any input from me and it was sometimes a struggle to even move right.
have you fought both dharkon and galeem at the end of the game? they both count towards 100%
 

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I'm mad. About a day's worth of time put into the Adventure Mode and I'm sitting here wasting more hours trying to find whatever .33% I'm missing for a 100%.

Has anyone else had this happen? I swear, I've looked everywhere on the maps and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Oh, and also, Dr. Wily (when I was a bit underpowered, at least), Akuma, and that fight with Corrin or Lucina and a giant Kirby are the main standouts for me when it comes to me actually having a hard time. There's probably some more I'm missing, cause I know I was prettt stressed for quite a few fights; I was also annoyed because my one joy-con"s joystick keeps making me want to go left without any input from me and it was sometimes a struggle to even move right.
About the missing percent for completion:
Have you gotten all endings? You have to fight Dharkon and Galeem individually, in addition to their combined fight, as all those count as separate fights for completion.

Edit: :ultgreninja:'d literally seconds before I posted this.
 
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Hey, good answers here..
Bub & Bob (Bubble Bobble)
Win. That definitely fits the bill. Taito.. why not.
Since Boshi is my ultimate wish...

Poochy :yoshi:
I thought it'd be Birdo XD
Well, aside from already being a spirit. Would Poochy attract people more than what Craft Yoshi can already do? I know I haven't set that as a rule, but it's what I was aiming to figure.
Btw, similarly to James McCloud, won't Boshi work as a skin.. Mii costumes are too on the way, so maybe. Hey, maybe he'll appear in Craft World :)
Oh, almost forgot. Tell me you're not using Wooly Yoshi Mii costume.. I think it's so cool. I really want to wear a real one X)
Interesting topic.

I'd have to go with Bella Goth from the Sims...but I can't remember and that might be T rated. Still not M though.

The Sims is pretty well one of the best selling game series, and really advanced the Life Simulation genre (of which Animal Crossing is a part). Bella is probably the most well known character, and I could see them dipping into some of the more zany animations for her.
I think it is T-rated. You know, I think some asked for Sims too. I don't know much about the game (I know of it of course).. so I had to google... that's Pauline!
So what makes her the Sims face? When you said Sims I thought.. how can that be represented. Also, even if I'd take Sims over Minecraft any day, and I know they're not even close in comparison.. but if I look at it from the build games genre, I think this is something going against it. You know, similar to Sims, maybe that's why the leaks weren't certain about Minecraft. Maybe Sakurai didn't think Steve represent Minecraft and went for a stage representation. It's what I thought about Sims.. a stage representation.
Phineas & Ferb as an Ice Climber Like duo
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Cool.. but they weren't originated from a game first.
 

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I'm mad. About a day's worth of time put into the Adventure Mode and I'm sitting here wasting more hours trying to find whatever .33% I'm missing for a 100%.

Has anyone else had this happen? I swear, I've looked everywhere on the maps and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Oh, and also, Dr. Wily (when I was a bit underpowered, at least), Akuma, and that fight with Corrin or Lucina and a giant Kirby are the main standouts for me when it comes to me actually having a hard time. There's probably some more I'm missing, cause I know I was prettt stressed for quite a few fights; I was also annoyed because my one joy-con"s joystick keeps making me want to go left without any input from me and it was sometimes a struggle to even move right.
Right now I have 99.67% but I truly have no idea what I'm missing

I assume it's a spirit battle because I didn't get the "fight all battles" challenge
 
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i still think he heard about it, but just fell for a lie
That's totally possible. I mean, so far we have no indication that new bosses will be added as DLC content so... as usual, there's no way to know until the actual content is revealed...
I mean this isn’t the first time he would be wrong. He, along other leakers mind you, said a Square Enix Rep would be revealed first for DLC.
Oh i didn't know that, thx for the info. So his perfect streak has already stopped then.
smash is fun btw haven’t said that yet
Damn right!
 

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If i recall correctly, Verge has claimed that the Minecraft content was a boss. So either he's wrong for the 1st time in regards to Smash info or he's right and we're getting a Minecraft boss somewhere down the line (as part of a DLC maybe?). I don't have the source but i'm fairly sure he claimed that back in early december.

There's always the possibility that he's right about the Minecraft boss but just unaware about more Minecraft content (a stage. some spirits and/or Steve).
Stage boss like Yellow Devil maybe?

That's totally possible. I mean, so far we have no indication that new bosses will be added as DLC content so... as usual, there's no way to know until the actual content is revealed...

Oh i didn't know that, thx for the info. So his perfect streak has already stopped then.

Damn right!
He has since stated that he merely assumed that the Square character was first because he was negotiated for first, thus appeared in the rumor mill first. Considering Sakurai’s later statements about Joker’s reveal, I find this perfectly believable.
 
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Either Bonk or Glover.
Oh Bonk is my wish too. Not sure of his chances though.. does even Nintendo know he exists.
Glover.. that's a far fetched. With two gloved hands already.. who knows, son finally finds his mommy and daddy XD
Tetromino.
No one can deny the importance of Tetris in gaming. If it's a stage then definitely, I doubt a character though.
Remember, Tetris time to shine in Smash was in Brawl. Nintendo released Tetris, had some type of rights to it and they added two of the coolest music pieces to Smash. They're still here in Ultimate, so I guess that's the answer Nintendo went for.. music pieces.
 
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What on earth do you mean with Bayonetta? How is she unique mechanically compared to other fighters? If anything a better example would be Ryu.

And if Steve doesn’t have a crafting mechanic, he brings literally NOTHING to the table other than brand recognition and a pickaxe.
Aside from a unique air-dodge mechanic, unique Bullet Arts mechanic, unique recovery mechanic and unique time-slowing counter? Not much.

Also, I'm pretty sure Minecraft isn't just crafting and a pickaxe. Just because I said he might not have it, you don't have to reduce whole game into a vague "crafting" that we don't even know how would work in Smash.
 

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Aside from a unique air-dodge mechanic, unique Bullet Arts mechanic, unique recovery mechanic and unique time-slowing counter? Not much.

Also, I'm pretty sure Minecraft isn't just crafting and a pickaxe. Just because I said he might not have it, you don't have to reduce whole game into a vague "crafting" that we don't even know how would work in Smash.
Minecraft isn’t just crafting and a pickaxe. And Mario isn’t about jumping on turtles. Seriously, if Steve wouldn’t have crafting what would he have?
 

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I found the link to his Minecraft boss claim: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77233375?jumpto=97#97

I don't see why it couldn't be a stage boss but it could also be a Classic mode/World of Light boss... there's no details on which type of boss it would be, as far as i'm aware.
I doubt they'll add any boss to WoL, because
it was actually a thing to having equal number of bosses for light and dark sides.
 

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I found the link to his Minecraft boss claim: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77233375?jumpto=97#97

I don't see why it couldn't be a stage boss but it could also be a Classic mode/World of Light boss... there's no details on which type of boss it would be, as far as i'm aware.
At this time, the only stage DLC we know is coming is because of being tied with a character. While it's possible, the only current reason to believe we'd get a MC stage is with Steve.

In the case of this claim, it's way more likely the Minecraft Boss is an addition to Classic or Adventure Mode. Not a Stage Boss(unless it's because Steve is coming too, which is the only reason it'd currently make sense as a Stage Boss, because we know for sure the stage is coming). It fits the current context of information we have more properly.

I doubt they'll add any boss to WoL, because
it was actually a thing to having equal number of bosses for light and dark sides.
Though with that in mind, Classic or playable Steve is the only way he could be correct then.
 

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i don't mean to be rude but

are you 10 years old, how did you not know about cloud until smash bros
well then...excuse me for never having interest in nor knowing of Final Fantasy beforehand. Not everybody is going to know or care for every video game character

don’t mean to be rude you say... 5277FBD0-9F29-4007-A351-B3367966E68F.png
Minecraft isn’t just crafting and a pickaxe. And Mario isn’t about jumping on turtles. Seriously, if Steve wouldn’t have crafting what would he have?
Edginess and guns and being a block boy
 

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Minecraft isn’t just crafting and a pickaxe. And Mario isn’t about jumping on turtles. Seriously, if Steve wouldn’t have crafting what would he have?
I mean, I don't really want Steve in Smash either, but it's not as though he requires a unique mechanic to be considered. He can be a rather standard fighter so long as Sakurai sees potential in him.
 
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