Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[ClaTheBae]

I'm beloved here for some reason

like you don't know the reason

I'm the itty bitty ***** goth girl

 

[Opossum]

state of instrumentals/vocals in the game notwithstanding, this absolute banger is the only one we can say pretty confidently is in the game right now (given it's Joker's trailer theme, so they presumably have the rights to it)

Not necessarily. *Glares at Bombing Mission, Chocobo Theme, and Forest Maze*.

 

[Gentlepanda]

For me, "the worst" would be 5 lackluster characters. I'd rather only have 1 wave of characters that I believe will be implemented well! Also, I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think we need any more characters.

to be fair I went into DLC expecting the worst and got joker immediately afterwards, so I think if I keep expecting the worst then we'll have twenty more fighter packs by the end of all this

Not necessarily. *Glares at Bombing Mission, Chocobo Theme, and Forest Maze*.

these tracks all have something in common and it rhymes with pear phoenix

 

[KarneraMythos]

Hell no I just point and laugh at people who say the dumbest **** like "Paper Mario 1000 year door is more expensive on ebay than Colour Splash therefore it's the better game solely based on that factor. Checkmate you gay-grudge holding liberals"

But I'm not talking about that crowd. I'm talking about us, as in the people replying in this thread. C'mon, if you were GwenIsAChad too, you'd be way less active :v

For me, "the worst" would be 5 lackluster characters. I'd rather only have 1 wave of characters that I believe will be implemented well! Also, I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think we need any more characters.

Quality over quantity, eh? We're dealing with subjectives here, but I don't necessarily disagree!

 

[Tree Gelbman]

To sum it up:
-DLC post Fighter's Pass is all but confirmed to be dead
-No Persona 5 soundtrack vocals

The vocals are not shocking I suspected as such.

But the DLC post the Fighter's Pass? We'll see on that.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Even if we don't get more full characters, we'll probably get regular DLC patches and costumes as is.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

What’s some of the best Persona 5 songs anyways?

I think this due to Smash

all of them

 

[Gentlepanda]

all of them

except mementos

**** mementos

 

[Bionichute]

To sum it up:
-DLC post Fighter's Pass is all but confirmed to be dead
-No Persona 5 soundtrack vocals

kay this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard

 

[Gentlepanda]

Even if we don't get more full characters, we'll probably get regular DLC patches and costumes as is.

if they could just give me an octoling echo fighter for free that'd be swell

 

[KarneraMythos]

kay this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard

Yeah, how dare I interpret Sakurai's statements on Persona 5 music and Smash Ultimate DLC being downplayed? Not like this fanbase has a history of getting BTFO when he uses exact words or anything. No siree bob!

 

[Bionichute]

Even if we don't get more full characters, we'll probably get regular DLC patches and costumes as is.

yeah right after this ultimate's gonna be abandoned and we're going to either have to wait 4 years for an objectively inferior sequel or 8 years for an entirely new console and smash bros

KarneraMythos i was talking about the actual statements and not about you

 

[DrCoeloCephalo]

Sure, it could have a difficulty toggle. I'm not against that. Sorry, I was perhaps skimming too much, I didn't realize we were strictly talking about making the game's story harder, that's why I brought up the Battle Tree.

I play Pokemon pretty casually (despite the fact I have more knowledge than a typical casual player of the series). I'm pretty happy with the story for what it is, and it providing me the opportunity to run through with a bunch of different teams. It's easy going, a fun chill game with designs and characters I like. I enjoy the mechanics and combat, and I rarely grind so I still have to strategize. Trying out a bunch of Pokemon create a nice amount of replay value for me, so it's just something I go back to a lot. So I'm not depending on such a toggle for difficulty since I'm happy with how things are, but I wouldn't be against it existing.

You could still do all that and enjoy all those things even if the game was made harder cuz of difficulty settings.

 

[Gentlepanda]

yeah right after this ultimate's gonna be abandoned and we're going to either have to wait 4 years for an objectively inferior sequel or 8 years for an entirely new console and smash bros

this reads like sarcasm but I think we all know it's true in our hearts

 

[Pakky]

in a loud meaty voice

DOES JOKER HAVE ANY SEXY LADY PERSONAS???

:3

 

[Noipoi]

What's happening, lads?

Are you ready to fly on your own?

 

[Deleted member]

Hell no I just point and laugh at people who say the dumbest **** like "Paper Mario 1000 year door is more expensive on ebay than Colour Splash therefore it's the better game solely based on that factor. Checkmate you gay-grudge holding liberals"

gay grudge holding liberal is my alter ego superhero name

 

[AndreaAC]

Are you ready to fly on your own?

xD I will need to get a really hard kick from bahind to do that, because I'm chickening out!

 

[KarneraMythos]

yeah right after this ultimate's gonna be abandoned and we're going to either have to wait 4 years for an objectively inferior sequel or 8 years for an entirely new console and smash bros

KarneraMythos i was talking about the actual statements and not about you

Oh, my mistake! I had a few people raising their eyebrows at me like I've lost my marbles.

Personally, if we get another Smash game, Sakurai should set a new goalpost after getting everyone back in the roster somehow: Add the game modes that people were desperately begging for. Aside from newcomers and gameplay overhaul, new and exciting features is pretty much the only other draw for the series.

 

[Pakky]

What's happening, lads?

Are you ready to fly on your own?

Nope too full from Christmas dinner.

Perhaps if I fart really hard?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

yeah right after this ultimate's gonna be abandoned and we're going to either have to wait 4 years for an objectively inferior sequel or 8 years for an entirely new console and smash bros

I don't think we even need a new Smash Bros after Ultimate...

It's gonna be hard to to top it, and I feel Smash needs to end at some point, or it'll lose it's charm
And besides I think we have just about all of the Nintendo / Video Game all-stars playable...
I'd rather a balanced 80 character roster where every character's inclusion makes sense, over a 250 cluttered unbalanced character roster with a lot of useless filler...

 

[RandomAce]

I’ll actually sum up the part KarneraMythos is reffering to. It was in a recent interview.

Sakurai: “As we make the DLC fighters, the team involved will continue to shrink. Until now I’ve been overseeing hundreds of peoples’ work, so my work as a director is about to get relatively light. Of course, we have to plan the next DLC character, and the next… and so on and so forth. I planned in advance and set aside some funds, though, so we’ve got a bit of a surplus compared to earlier on.”

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

except mementos

**** mementos

especially Mementos. The final mementos dungeons theme slaps

 

[Bionichute]

ultimate is basically a game designed to be updated for many years, and not doing that is, frankly, a bit bull****? sakurai could even take a break and they could keep making dlc. there's basically zero way a sequel would be better, we'd either have to wait until the next nintendo console (and who the **** knows when that will happen, we're only two years into the switch's lifespan) or they release another smash bros game on the switch, with less characters because they couldn't get some of the rights back. its really, really stupid.

i guess this also basically means spirit characters are absolutely dead

 

[Gentlepanda]

especially Mementos. The final mementos dungeons theme slaps

oh, freedom and security is a jam, sure

I mean the other one

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The only acceptable sequel is if they just make Super Smash Bros Ultimate: More Edition. Wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo felt they could squeeze more cash from Smash with DLC later

 

[praline]

Y’Know I still wonder why Yoshi was put in Smash 64 over like... Peach, Bowser, Zelda, Wario, Diddy Kong, Mewtwo, Marth, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

 

[Iridium]

Another one of Roy's improved hitboxes.

Hitbox visualization using Smash 4 model/animation pic.twitter.com/obyvq1uoQe

— Ruben (@Ruben_dal) December 27, 2018

So improved, that they didn't care about that long range. I don't, either.

 

[Bionichute]

I don't think we even need a new Smash Bros after Ultimate...

It's gonna be hard to to top it, and I feel Smash needs to end at some point, or it'll lose it's charm
And besides I think we have just about all of the Nintendo / Video Game all-stars playable...
I'd rather a balanced 80 character roster where every character's inclusion makes sense, over a 250 cluttered unbalanced character roster with a lot of useless filler...

like nintendo will ever let that happen. you see how much bank until made? they know how popular smash bros is, they're basically going to keep making them for as long as they can

 

[Noipoi]

Y’Know I still wonder why Yoshi was put in Smash 64 over like... Peach, Bowser, Zelda, Wario, Diddy Kong, Mewtwo, Marth, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

Yoshi was the hot new thing in the 90s. Obviously he would've gotten in either way because he's YOSHI, but it makes sense. Bowser is surprising though.
I would've put in Bowser.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Y’Know I still wonder why Yoshi was put in Smash 64 over like... Peach, Bowser, Zelda, Wario, Diddy Kong, Mewtwo, Marth, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

I'd assume because he was relevant at time, as Yoshi's Story came out around Smash 64's development

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y’Know I still wonder why Yoshi was put in Smash 64 over like... Peach, Bowser, Zelda, Wario, Diddy Kong, Mewtwo, Marth, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

Well Sakurai didn't want to seem biased. Though honestly out of all of the original 12 I feel Yoshi fits the crowd of "Wouldn't be all too popular a request" alongside Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff and Ness

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

ultimate is basically a game designed to be updated for many years, and not doing that is, frankly, a bit bull****? sakurai could even take a break and they could keep making dlc. there's basically zero way a sequel would be better, we'd either have to wait until the next nintendo console (and who the **** knows when that will happen, we're only two years into the switch's lifespan) or they release another smash bros game on the switch, with less characters because they couldn't get some of the rights back. its really, really stupid.

i guess this also basically means spirit characters are absolutely dead

If Sakurai wants to not have the game continue on for more than a year, that's his choice. Keep in mind that unless Nintendo deems the DLC will keep going, he has no reason he has to.

Other than adding a few cut modes, the game is highly complete anyway. It was rushed, so having a few things that were cut brought back is very nice. 6 DLC characters that are unique is still nice. Maybe we might get some Echo DLC. Who knows.

80 characters, plus quite a few modes, over 100 stages... and I'd say it's still a huge and complete game. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo could have a new person work on DLC if they want. Sakurai wants a break, and it's fair to give it to him. Considering he had his team do a lot of the work and choose many of the spirits, it shows he's more than willing to let other people hand the work and not overdo it himself. He doesn't need to be in-charge of all the DLC, unless he's either contracted to or decides he has to be there till the very end(and in the latter's case, that means Nintendo is fine with it too. I'm sure they would be, as they heavily respect him).

 

[Noipoi]

In the original games there was one character for every series. Except Mario, and Pokemon. From the beginning they had more characters than every one else.

I think that's funny.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

#LetSakuraiRestPleaseIBegOfYou

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

#LetSakuraiRestPleaseIBegOfYou

I wonder if he'll ever get to take a break?

 

[Noipoi]

#LetSakuraiRestPleaseIBegOfYou

The next dlc pack should be the Sakurai pass. Where we pay 25 dollars to have him sleep in for a week or two.

I'd buy it.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

The Persona stage better be the damn casino. IT. BETTER. BE. THE. CASINO.

 

[Bionichute]

If Sakurai wants to not have the game continue on for more than a year, that's his choice. Keep in mind that unless Nintendo deems the DLC will keep going, he has no reason he has to.

Other than adding a few cut modes, the game is highly complete anyway. It was rushed, so having a few things that were cut brought back is very nice. 6 DLC characters that are unique is still nice. Maybe we might get some Echo DLC. Who knows.

80 characters, plus quite a few modes, over 100 stages... and I'd say it's still a huge and complete game. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo could have a new person work on DLC if they want. Sakurai wants a break, and it's fair to give it to him. Considering he had his team do a lot of the work and choose many of the spirits, it shows he's more than willing to let other people hand the work and not overdo it himself. He doesn't need to be in-charge of all the DLC, unless he's either contracted to or decides he has to be there till the very end(and in the latter's case, that means Nintendo is fine with it too. I'm sure they would be, as they heavily respect him).

oh yeah its a very complete game, i just think that it makes no sense business wise for them to do this. maybe if the dlc does really well nintendo will mandate it, i dunno

 

[Noipoi]

The Persona stage better be the damn casino. IT. BETTER. BE. THE. CASINO.

What's so important about the Casino?