Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[NessIsAChad]

Why I do feel like Edrick is the Incineroar of DLC?

-There’s multiple leaks/rumors about him.
-Seen as a boring/safe pick by some fans.
-Suddenly becomes hated because of how often discussed he is therefore is now extremely likely.

how is he extremely likely

 

[Deleted member]

needs a zero to death, what kinda drugs you takin?

Okay, hear me out: I know how we fix Inkling and Chrom.

We bring back Smash 4 Bayo AND Brawl Meta Knight to even it out. We also bring back Smash 4 Cloud, just 'cause.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Erdrick will be the closest thing we'll ever get to Goku being in Smash.

Because get it? Both their animation styles is by the same artist.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Okay, hear me out: I know how we fix Inkling and Chrom.

We bring back Smash 4 Bayo AND Brawl Meta Knight to even it out. We also bring back Smash 4 Cloud, just 'cause.

Needs more blip blip toryah.

 

[Will]

how is he extremely likely

because based leaker man said so and if you disagree with him then you're dumb, stupid, and also dumb according to martial law

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

how is he extremely likely

Dragon Quest is huge in Japan, and is Square Enix's second biggest series, only behind Final Fantasy...
If you ask me, he/she (or another DQ character) is very likely for DLC, especially if we are getting another Square character, like the rumors are saying

 

[Zinith]

Imagine my boi faster than he already is...

 

[Iridium]

Oh but that's what makes it fun!

I love going back 3 or 4 months and seeing how wrong we were.

Also if anyone's curious here's my predictions as to the pass post-Joker reveal:

Joker
Luminary/Erdrick (leaning a lot more towards Luminary with an Erdrick skin)
Solaire (And an Artorias Mii Costume)
Banjo Kazooie
Wildcard spot: Dante

For wildcard I can also see Crash or a Resident Evil character.

Microsoft is also up in the air too, as I can see good arguments for both Steve and Master Chief. I think Banjo will win out though.

But like I said, fully prepared to be wrong on most of these. Smash speculation (especially DLC) is a fickle beast.

I don't even know anymore, but:

- Erdrick (perhaps Luminary, but someone has got to wear that equipment, maybe...)
- Ryu Hayabusa (I feel like 1 of 5 people who even thinks he has a chance)
- Another fighting game rep (Terry Bogard? Kyo Kusanagi?)
- Wildcard Nintendo character nobody expected that I can't even say...

Is what I hope happens. I'm going to be so disappointed.

 

[Deleted member]

Imagine my boi faster than he already is...

Yoshi with Sonic's speed and a zero-to-death. The meta we all truly deserve.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Oh but that's what makes it fun!

I love going back 3 or 4 months and seeing how wrong we were.

Also if anyone's curious here's my predictions as to the pass post-Joker reveal:

Joker
Luminary/Erdrick (leaning a lot more towards Luminary with an Erdrick skin)
Solaire (And an Artorias Mii Costume)
Banjo Kazooie
Wildcard spot: Dante

For wildcard I can also see Crash or a Resident Evil character.

Microsoft is also up in the air too, as I can see good arguments for both Steve and Master Chief. I think Banjo will win out though.

But like I said, fully prepared to be wrong on most of these. Smash speculation (especially DLC) is a fickle beast.

I really believe we’ll get a second Namco Challenger and Dark Souls is a prime candidate. And it certainly lined up more with Reggie’s statement than Lloyd or Yuri. The only reason I’m predicting a Tales Challenger is the leaks shared here a few weeks ago. Which I’ve never heard repeated anywhere else. Maybe I should stop putting all my chips on it.

 

[NessIsAChad]

Dragon Quest is huge in Japan, and is Square Enix's second biggest series, onlybehind Final Fantasy...
If you ask me, he/she (or another DQ character) is very likely for DLC, especially if we are getting another Square character, like the rumors are saying

Square is the most stingy third party. If we can’t get more than two FF songs there’s no way they can get anything from that greedy ******* Sugiyama

Sakurai himself said Cloud was the hardest character to get and Dragon Quest would only be harder. And for a series that’s not even popular worldwide like FF is

 

[Bionichute]

the characters i feel we're going to get:
Monster Hunter (already have the rights usage, capcom is generally pretty chill with smash)
Erdrick (Basically all but confirmed in my eyes)
Steve/Banjo (I can see either happening, mostly because that rare stuff in the code is still bizarre)
Chosen Undead (truly this is the dark souls of dlc)

the characters i actually want and also have any chance:
Erdrick (i don't actually want erdrick but like i said i feel he's already just confirmed)
Jibanyan
Porky
Tibby

 

[Will]

Wildcard Nintendo character nobody expected that I can't even say...

Calling it now with the ultimate Chad powers that I have:

 

[Noipoi]

I think we could get a second namco rep. Who? I dunno, but I do know who i'd like.

Let's just say, he's on a roll.

 

[Untouch]

I don't think we're getting a Namco rep for DLC. I think if we were going to get a Namco rep it'd be base.
Most of the time, third parties are DLC because there are legal agreements that need to be made, Namco is producing the game so they don't need to do that.
Namco was the only third party with a character in Smash 4 without a DLC spot too.

 

[Will]

Square is the most stingy third party. If we can’t get more than two FF songs there’s no way they can get anything from that greedy ******* Sugiyama

How the **** is the composer, whose greedy ownership is separate from Square, making them stingy when they themselves aren't in the equation for music?

Perhaps you dove too deep into the le square greed xD meme

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Square is the most stingy third party. If we can’t get more than two FF songs there’s no way they can get anything from that greedy ******* Sugiyama

Sakurai himself said Cloud was the hardest character to get and Dragon Quest would only be harder. And for a series that’s not even popular worldwide like FF is

You do know that Square has a weird recent history with crossovers in Bandai Namco developed fighters, right?

• Noctis from Final Fantasy XV in Tekken
• 2B From Nier Automata in Soulcaliber 6

Erdrick from Dragon Quest in Super Smash Bros Ultimate could very well be next...

I don't see it being too out of the possibility

 

[Deleted member]

I just want Veemos.

Also Sans because the reaction would be glorious. I'd also get Smash Undertale remixes out of it, which would be the best thing ever.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Why I do feel like Edrick is the Incineroar of DLC?

-There’s multiple leaks/rumors about him.
-Seen as a boring/safe pick by some fans.
-Suddenly becomes hated because of how often discussed he is therefore is now extremely likely.

For the first two lines, some people who aren't familiar with the Dragon Quest games consider him boringly-designed, made worse with his resemblance to Akira Toriyama characters. There are also other Square characters that some people would rather have. I'm indifferent really, but I find the situation about Erdrick kinda funny for a few reasons:
-Square-Enix has developed notoriety lately. It's headache-inducing even thinking about another Square Rep at all when Cloud barely made it while Namco only has one playable character
-As far as Namco requests go, ironically enough, the overly-mentioned Heihachi and to a lesser extent Lloyd don't get the same amount of hate that Erdrick does. Being a KOS-MOS supporter, I'm just here, politely and patiently hoping my Most-Wanted gets into the game without causing a ruckus

Everyone's throw combos have been made worse or in some cases nonexistant.

RIP Ike uthrow into fair.

uthrow into uair is pretty effective though, and even if some hits can be DI'd and avoided, you can set up for a delayed short hop fair reaction. Once you see them do that ****, you fake them out. Works every time.

I just want Veemos.

Also Sans because the reaction would be glorious. I'd also get Smash Undertale remixes out of it, which would be the best thing ever.

Can we get Frisk/Chara instead? Sans is more of an Assist Trophy. Hell, it'd be great if Resetti returned. Imagine an easter egg where both of them throw quips at each other while they're both out?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I honestly think Erdrick is a very well crafted Square Enix cover story.

You expect me to think the company that went out of their way to protect 2B, Noctis, and Cloud let Erdrick slip and leak?

Nah. It just don't seem realistic.

Erdrick is either misdirection, assumptions, or some sort of foolery with leakers or there's just no Square rep at all and we've been running around with headless chicken syndrome.

 

[Deleted member]

I find it kind of funny in a sad way that Square is painted as a villain for letting composers and artists keep the rights to their works.

 

[Untouch]

While DQ makes the most amount of sense by far at the moment, I'm not 100% sure It'll be Erdrick.
People are saying that he's the most likely because he's on the list of 7 reps, but this is a list of characters Square Enix is throwing around to employees to bait leakers. Feels odd they'd throw the character who is actually in around to employees the most.

 

[Will]

So I just discovered something cool.

Master Hand has this move where he makes spikes. If he follows it up with a fist slamming down, and he hits his own spikes, he is immediately put into a stun.

I did this by accident and now I feel like a legend.

 

[PLATINUM7]

I think we could get a second namco rep. Who? I dunno, but I do know who i'd like.

Let's just say, he's on a roll.

But we already have Pac-Man

 

[KarneraMythos]

I find it kind of funny in a sad way that Square is painted as a villain for letting composers and artists keep the rights to their works.

To be fair, the incredibly reserved nature of the situation makes Square into the Will Smith of Smash representation, where they represent a conglomerate collection of pride they refuse to play down unless they're given an unfathomable amount of royalties. Getting on Square's good side for DLC is like trying overly-hard to win the approval of the popular kid in school. They go to your party not out of kindness or any noble cause, but because they got annoyed into doing it, in a "FINE! But only this once!" kind of way. 4 and Ultimate feel very close in release, so consider Cloud's appearances in both games a "weekend stay" of sorts for this analogy.

 

[Zinith]

Did someone say "new Namco rep?"

Spoiler

 

[PLATINUM7]

Did someone say "new Namco rep?"

Spoiler

They didn't spell the name right. Should be ファイガー.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Did someone say "new Namco rep?"

Spoiler

I was certain that you were gonna post a pic of Aeon Calcos.

 

[Wademan94]

- Ryu Hayabusa (I feel like 1 of 5 people who even thinks he has a chance)

Consider me the second of the 5 people.

Did someone say "new Namco rep?"

Spoiler

I did that earlier but with the guy that blows these guys up

 

[smashkirby]

Calling it now with the ultimate Chad powers that I have:

I see Lark (Nester's incarnation from Pilotwings 64) being more likely, honestly. Though still just as much of a wildcard as him.

 

[Bionichute]

I find it kind of funny in a sad way that Square is painted as a villain for letting composers and artists keep the rights to their works.

square isn't the villain here, its the composer guy for being an actual monster of a person

if he wasn't a piece of **** people probably wouldn't be complaining about it

 

[Zinith]

I did that earlier but with the guy that blows these guys up

I think it's quite obvious why I went with the Fygars...

 

[PLATINUM7]

I think it's quite obvious why I went with the Fygars...

Because you forgot Alex from Tekken

 

[Zinith]

Because you forgot Alex from Tekken

There seems to be quite a few reptile Namco characters, and that's not even considering the Bandai side of things...

Spoiler

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Yoshi with Sonic's speed and a zero-to-death. The meta we all truly deserve.

Pit with the
Strength of the Smash Baseball Bat
Speed of Sonic
Air Game of Jiggs+Falco
Combos like Bayo and Ryu/Ken
Manliness like Richter
Pimp Daddy Game like Bowser
Invincible like Shadow
...but still unable to read...

That’s what I need

 

[Cutie Gwen]

square isn't the villain here, its the composer guy for being an actual monster of a person

if he wasn't a piece of **** people probably wouldn't be complaining about it

I'm pretty sure Shish is referring to Uematsu and not Sugiyama

 

[Noipoi]

I wish Pikachu and Inkling were top tier.

 

[Bionichute]

i can't win with literally anyone online lol

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I wish Pikachu and Inkling were top tier.

Noi this is stupid it's like saying "I wish I relied on food, water and oxygen to live"

 

[osby]

I wish Pikachu and Inkling were top tier.

Be careful what you wish for. I know plenty of Meta Knight and Bayonetta (and Cloud) fans that were disappointed with how much hate they get because of their top tier status.

Noi this is stupid it's like saying "I wish I relied on food, water and oxygen to live"

But what if I support my fragile self-esteem with underdog status?