Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[LetterO]

Here's my question, why the Hell is the Mother series so loved?

I've played over half of Earthbound, and it's fun don't get me wrong. I like this goofy world, and the interesting stuff is enough to get me to power through the more annoying gameplay elements (screw the inventory), but why is this series so many peoples favorite? Why is Earthbound one of the cult classics?

I don't say this out of annoyance or malice, I genuinely want to know what draws people to these games.

I haven't played it myself, but probably due to many factors like the uniqueness of the world, the characters, and the soundtrack.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

nobody hates anime more then people who watch anime

I dont cause i went out of my way to watch a huge library of stuff from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s and realized how much of it is wonderful instead being a self hating dip**** that only watched stuff from toonami and judges the whole medium based off pictures of anime girls with same faces i saw online and seasonal charts

 

[TheCJBrine]

I remember Miyamoto mentioning Pikmin 4, I think after Hey! Pikmin was out as well; Pikmin is just hard for them to develop.

Here's my question, why the Hell is the Mother series so loved?

I've played over half of Earthbound, and it's fun don't get me wrong. I like this goofy world, and the interesting stuff is enough to get me to power through the more annoying gameplay elements (screw the inventory), but why is this series so many peoples favorite? Why is Earthbound one of the cult classics?

I don't say this out of annoyance or malice, I genuinely want to know what draws people to these games.

I like the humor, story, music, and battle system, and...uh, well, I'm gonna end up mentioning everything in the game so I'll stop.

Here's this though:

 

[Polan]

That I understand and tolerate. But this boy, oh no, he was a far cry from the kinds of fans that you're talking about; look for yourself and see what I mean.
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>piranha plant
>wario echo

i'm sorry but why did people ever take him seriously

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Talking about Minecraft and Walking Dead in the same sentence reminds me of Minecraft Story Mode
Please.
Do not remind me about that ****ing unnecessary pile of ****.

I’d it makes you feel better, Telltale’s Minecraft got to be canceled and only Walking Dead remains to finish the series

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Here's my question, why the Hell is the Mother series so loved?

I've played over half of Earthbound, and it's fun don't get me wrong. I like this goofy world, and the interesting stuff is enough to get me to power through the more annoying gameplay elements (screw the inventory), but why is this series so many peoples favorite? Why is Earthbound one of the cult classics?

I don't say this out of annoyance or malice, I genuinely want to know what draws people to these games.

I mean, my favourite thing about it is it's humour, but that's just me.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Here's my question, why the Hell is the Mother series so loved?

I've played over half of Earthbound, and it's fun don't get me wrong. I like this goofy world, and the interesting stuff is enough to get me to power through the more annoying gameplay elements (screw the inventory), but why is this series so many peoples favorite? Why is Earthbound one of the cult classics?

I don't say this out of annoyance or malice, I genuinely want to know what draws people to these games.

Its probably the setting and dialogue otherwise its a poor dragon quest parody without it

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

That I understand and tolerate. But this boy, oh no, he was a far cry from the kinds of fans that you're talking about; look for yourself and see what I mean.
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Wow, that’s extreme. I guess he was desperate when he went against this game. I’d say his behavior wasn’t anything less than pathetic if he really thought this game would suck and wanted people to not buy it. We had nothing to lose for buying the game, so he was the real loser here.

 

[Graizen]

New Art made by: https://twitter.com/Chicostyx

 

[Will]

So what will Piranha Plant and Joker's Classic mode be all about?

I think PP will be all about fighting the joke characters

 

[RyuhoFox]

So what will Piranha Plant and Joker's Classic mode be all about?

I think PP will be all about fighting the joke characters

Im assuming Joker's will be fighting characters who have some kind of alternate form. An alternate persona if you will

 

[Flyboy]

Never played a DQ game but I'm of the mindset that Mother 3 improved every aspect of the series. Earthbound wasn't fun the first time I played it, but it REALLY wasn't fun after I played Mother 3 and tried another EB playthrough

Earthbound is such a comfy grindy game for me but also you right. Mother 3 is one of the best games ever and the QoL improvements are just astounding.

Here's my question, why the Hell is the Mother series so loved?

I've played over half of Earthbound, and it's fun don't get me wrong. I like this goofy world, and the interesting stuff is enough to get me to power through the more annoying gameplay elements (screw the inventory), but why is this series so many peoples favorite? Why is Earthbound one of the cult classics?

I don't say this out of annoyance or malice, I genuinely want to know what draws people to these games.

I hate to be that guy but it really is all in the ending, or at least the journey as a whole. It's incredibly moving and the slow tonal shift that still manages to keep its heart was fairly unprecedented. It did a lot of unorthodox things that you just didn't see in a game, such as the world itself. It's not shocking to see a modern RPG now, but it was back then. It's not shocking to see a world tackle heavy themes through the eyes of a child now, but it was then. It's not shocking to preach nonviolence and the dangerous effects of things like child abuse or corrupt cops or a death in the family now, but it was then. Wrap all that up in a compelling and strange and experimental package and you have something that really stuck with people.

Mother 3 especially is just a really wonderful experience. It's heartrending and tragic and deep and strange with a tone unlike almost anything else I've played. By flirting with the unreal it creates one of the most real and raw experiences I've ever seen. It's just powerfully emotional and beautiful while also being juvenile and humorous and odd. It lets itself be a paradox, which a lot of games don't allow. Games usually try to be experimental or flirt with tonal whiplash but few of them actually succeed. Mother did.

 

[LetterO]

Does anyone have an issue where sometimes for no reason the attack button just doesn't work, and the grab button has you shield instead of grabbing instead? At first I thought this was a controller issue, but it's a software issue. Even when I press A and the game says it's an attack input, no attack happens, and even when I press my grab button and the game says it's a grab input, my character shields instead.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Mother 3 is one of the best games ever and the QoL improvements are just astounding.

I'm not in love with Mother 3 like some people are but the combo system is one of the more interesting ways to design a turn based combat system. But really that game is played for it's story more than anything else.

Does anyone have an issue where sometimes for no reason the attack button just doesn't work, and the grab button has you shield instead of grabbing instead? At first I thought this was a controller issue, but it's a software issue. Even when I press A and the game says it's an attack input, no attack happens, and even when I press my grab button and the game says it's a grab input, my character shields instead.

what controller are you using? I've used 5 different gc controllers and it doesn't happen with me

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Does anyone have an issue where sometimes for no reason the attack button just doesn't work, and the grab button has you shield instead of grabbing instead? At first I thought this was a controller issue, but it's a software issue. Even when I press A and the game says it's an attack input, no attack happens, and even when I press my grab button and the game says it's a grab input, my character shields instead.

I had that issue with the attack button once, but just once.

 

[Flyboy]

I'm not in love with Mother 3 like some people are but the combo system is one of the more interesting ways to design a turn based combat system. But really that game is played for it's story more than anything else.

It tickled my rhythm-game-loving sensibilities and I respect it immensely for it.

 

[dezeray112]

That I understand and tolerate. But this boy, oh no, he was a far cry from the kinds of fans that you're talking about; look for yourself and see what I mean.
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A worthless plant compared as a Wario echo...........right.

 

[WaddleMatt]

"Sylux, Poochy, Melmetal, Edelgard and Porky are locks for DLC. So is Geno (Been saying the same thing since Brawl speculation)."

Do these people still exist or not because I hope they don't its been a while since I came here.

 

[Bionichute]

Im assuming Joker's will be fighting characters who have some kind of alternate form. An alternate persona if you will

7 deadly sins themed classic mode or bust tbh

 

[asia_catdog_blue]

what do you mean you get lame earthbound inspired indie games every year cause apparently Mother and Paper Mario are the only rpgs these people have played

Are people really buying them?

...or just the Nerds society shuns?

 

[Noipoi]

"Sylux, Poochy, Melmetal, Edelgard and Porky are locks for DLC. So is Geno (Been saying the same thing since Brawl speculation)."

Do these people still exist or not because I hope they don't its been a while since I came here.

Except for Edelgard and Geno, i've seen zero people call any of those characters locks.

 

[ClaTheBae]

7 deadly sins themed classic mode or bust tbh

well 6 of them are kind of easy but who would be Lust?

 

[WaddleMatt]

Except for Edelgard and Geno, i've seen zero people call any of those characters locks.

Well then the situation has some what improved but calling Edelgard and Geno locks is still laughable and I hope it stops. Actually calling anyone a lock is silly.

 

[DraginHikari]

After Joker's reveal I've more or less given up on trying to even begin to guess what they have in store. It kind of what happened after Cloud was revealed during Smash 4's DLC.

 

[Noipoi]

After Joker's reveal I've more or less given up on trying to even begin to guess what they have in store. It kind of what happened after Cloud was revealed during Smash 4's DLC.

There's only one character i'm guessing.

They're pretty Frisky.

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Well then the situation has some what improved but calling Edelgard and Geno locks is still laughable and I hope it stops. Actually calling anyone a lock is silly.

Agreed. No character is really a lock for anything, especially if we don’t know for certain if they are in or not. Not even a leaker and their sources are exceptions to that rule.

 

[DraginHikari]

There's only one character i'm guessing.

They're pretty Frisky.

I know that's a reference to Undertale but I haven't played it so that's about all I know lol.

 

[TheCJBrine]

> Earthbound

> Dragon Quest clone

Haven't played DQ myself but the battle system only seems similar to the first Mother, and yet it still has different stuffs going on~

Also, seems like the story would be much different other than the basic "save world from destruction."

 

[Shroob]

well 6 of them are kind of easy but who would be Lust?

Snake, such a lust for revenge.

 

[Noipoi]

I know that's a reference to Undertale but I haven't played it so that's about all I know lol.

All you need to know is that an Undertale character is gonna be dlc

 

[Dyllybirdy]

There's only one character i'm guessing.

They're pretty Frisky.

Hmm, well, lots of characters are frisky...


'Tis An Edit: Oh, I only just realised you were referencing Undertale...

 

[Bionichute]

well 6 of them are kind of easy but who would be Lust?

bowser, duh

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

well 6 of them are kind of easy but who would be Lust?

Hmmm..
Greed: Wario
Wrath: Ridley?? Or maybe K. Rool
Gluttony: Kirby/Yoshi/Dedede
Pride: ?
Envy: Bowser?
Lust: ?
Sloth: Jigglypuff?

 

[DraginHikari]

My own bias has a desire to see both Dragon Quest and Tales Of included in the DLC as some of the rumors have stated, but I've never been much of a betting man to put much stock in it.

well 6 of them are kind of easy but who would be Lust?

Bayonetta?

 

[Shroob]

>Dedede
>Gluttony
>Not Lust

 

[Noipoi]

Hmmm..
Greed: Wario
Wrath: Ridley??
Gluttony: Kirby/Yoshi/Dedede
Pride: ?
Envy: Bowser?
Lust: ?
Sloth: Jigglypuff?

Pride: Incineroar
Envy: Luigi
Lust: Sonic Bayonetta

 

[ZephyrZ]

>Dedede
>Gluttony
>Not Lust


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The only dededeadly sin he doesn't represent is Envy, and that's only because he's already perfect and already has everything.

 

[Will]

Hmmm..
Greed: Wario
Wrath: Ridley?? Or maybe K. Rool
Gluttony: Kirby/Yoshi/Dedede
Pride: ?
Envy: Bowser?
Lust: ?
Sloth: Jigglypuff?

Incineroar is easily pride.

 

[Noipoi]

Seriously, Pride is definitely Incineroar.

It's in his very nature to be a selfish, wild, self-centered jerk who loves himself too much.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

7 deadly sins themed classic mode or bust tbh

Villager better be Wrath