Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Everyone just forgot Persona Q 2 with Joker is on 3DS, didnt they?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I respect Minecraft as a game, and I hate the "cringe culture" surrounding it. But my problem with Steve is that he's just a nothing character.

This may be an unpopular opinion of sorts, but I care more about what the characters actually are rather than just what they can do. Not saying a good moveset doesn't matter, but I'm less inclined to get on board with a character with their moveset is all they have to offer. Steve most certainly has moveset potential, no questions asked, but I can't bring myself to care about that if Steve himself is an emotionless blank slate.

There are many other avatar characters in Smash, but at least they can actually emote, have voices, or have some shed of personality. All Steve has is just the "oof" death sound.

Nothing against Steve's supporters, I do feel bad for those who feel like their most wanted characters are hated by everyone.

That's just my own two cents on the matter. If it ends up happening, I won't like it, but I'll get over it. Already bought the Fighter Pass so I'm forced to get him anyway.

 

[Pyra]

Everyone just forgot Persona Q 2 with Joker is on 3DS, didnt they?

nah cause it's brought up every time people talk about Joker's relation to Nintendo

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

hideki kamiya posted a poll on twitter asking which character his followers would want in smash bros

Dante, Ammy, Wonder-Red, and Viewtiful Joe were the choices

could this mean something? probably not, but bayonetta IS still in the game, and capcom is pretty lenient with letting stuff in to smash too...

Hmm, if he's asking for votes, and this actually turns out to sway something, this would have to be for DLC past Season 1 as that's already been decided.

If that's the case then this bodes well for Phoenix Wright potentially being in Season 1.

 

[Pakky]

Fortnite ain't dying anytime soon, no matter how badly some strangely want it to. There's a difference in being the center of pop-culture and having no one play your game anymore. Game still makes big vbucks and has a large, established playerbase.

Also, I'm gonna be that guy and say both games are fine and the toxicity thrown at them by the internet is silly.

'WAH no u!!!!'

But yeah they're fine I think Fornite's aesthetic is pretty nice, as is Minecraft's in spots.

 

[REZERO]

The creation of sliced bread predates minecraft by 81 years so why don't we have a character named sliced bread and his echo is loaf.

 

[Deleted member]

Hmm, if he's asking for votes, and this actually turns out to sway something, this would have to be for DLC past Season 1 as that's already been decided.

If that's the case then this bodes well for Phoenix Wright potentially being in Season 1.

Kamiya has no connections to capcom these days. He just made the characters in the poll.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Everyone just forgot Persona Q 2 with Joker is on 3DS, didnt they?

So did Atlus, judging by the radio silence on a localisation.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I respect Minecraft as a game, and I hate the "cringe culture" surrounding it. But my problem with Steve is that he's just a nothing character.

This may be an unpopular opinion of sorts, but I care more about what the characters actually are rather than just what they can do. Not saying a good moveset doesn't matter, but I'm less inclined to get on board with a character with their moveset is all they have to offer. Steve most certainly has moveset potential, no questions asked, but I can't bring myself to care about that if Steve himself is an emotionless blank slate.

There are many other avatar characters in Smash, but at least they can actually emote, have voices, or have some shed of personality. All Steve has is just the "oof" death sound.

Nothing against Steve's supporters, I do feel bad for those who feel like their most wanted characters are hated by everyone.

That's just my own two cents on the matter. If it ends up happening, I won't like it, but I'll get over it. Already bought the Fighter Pass so I'm forced to get him anyway.

Technically, and are nothing characters too, so this argument is kinda invalid

 

[Pyra]

you know i'm about 3 seconds away from banning people who speak to me in English on twitter also

 

[Deleted member]

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you know i'm about 3 seconds away from banning people who speak to me in English on twitter also

Kamiya sounds like an anime villain sometimes.
“I SHALL CRUSH YOU PATHETIC INESCTS, BEGONE”

 

[Deleted member]

So, um... I tweeted my Soundcloud link to Sakurai
and
I think
he actually clicked it
O_o

 

[osby]

The creation of sliced bread predates minecraft by 81 years so why don't we have a character named sliced bread and his echo is loaf.

But sliced bread and loaf are kinda niche characters, don't you think? Plus, I think jam and peanut butter might be more deep and interesting character choices while still being recognizable.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Kamiya has no connections to capcom these days. He just made the characters in the poll.

That's why I'm speaking hypothetically on the account.

 

[Opossum]

The creation of sliced bread predates minecraft by 81 years so why don't we have a character named sliced bread and his echo is loaf.

Loaf has completely different proportions. It'd more than likely end up as a semi-clone.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

nah cause it's brought up every time people talk about Joker's relation to Nintendo

*grumble*

So, um... I tweeted my Soundcloud link to Sakurai
and
I think
he actually clicked it
O_o

you probably picked the sakurai parody account if its on twitter

 

[Pyra]

Kamiya sounds like an anime villain sometimes.
“I SHALL CRUSH YOU PATHETIC INESCTS, BEGONE”

i'm inclined to agree with him at the moment

 

[MBRedboy31]

I see people bring up Game and watch when talking about Steve’s animations, and I don’t think it’s a valid comparison. The key difference between Game and watch and Steve is that Steve actually does naiamte in his original games, it’s just purposefully stiff. In mine craft that doesn’t matter so much, cause it’s first person and the entire world is fairly stiff so it fits. When you bring that into smash, a 2d game with a side-view camera, it becomes a bit more of an issue as the player is getting a constant look at Steve making his animation, or lack there-of more prominent. This would also potentially make steve’s moves a bit harder to read smash is a hectic game where the player has to focus on every character. Steve sticks out. Game and watch, however, doesn’t animate at all, and more importantly is 2d. This gives his animations more flexibility and makes him easier to read. He also sticks out admittedly, but that’s due to being flat and not so much the aesthetics an animations like Steve. Those are my 3 cents anyways.
Yes I know mine craft story mode exists.

They wouldn’t have to port his animations 1-1; small embellishments to them (smoother transitions between actions, leaning into attacks at least slightly, ect,) would go a long way with readability without having to make him more articulated like in Story Mode.

 

[Deleted member]

you probably picked the sakurai parody account if its on twitter

Is this one the parody account?

 

[Pakky]

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you know i'm about 3 seconds away from banning people who speak to me in English on twitter also

I was American too once, then I cut out a 3rd of the fired food out of my diet and read a page in a book.

My life as changed drastically.

Did I miss the joke or no?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Technically, and are nothing characters too, so this argument is kinda invalid

The Miis and Villager can emote, and have some shed of personalitiy, even if not as much as some of the other characters. That puts them a step above Steve in my eyes.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

I swear, even didn't get matched up right and screeching is all he does.

Eh, he actually can talk when he chooses to.

 

[Opossum]

Red's voice in Ultimate is the reason he chooses not to speak in the main series Pokémon games.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

The creation of sliced bread predates minecraft by 81 years so why don't we have a character named sliced bread and his echo is loaf.

But sliced bread isn't a video game character, so he's already not happening /s

 

[Deleted member]

They wouldn’t have to port his animations 1-1; small embellishments to them (smoother transitions between actions, leaning into attacks at least slightly, ect,) would go a long way with readability without having to make him more articulated like in Story Mode.

That would help a bit, but I think Steve’s animations are inherently too stiff to work all that well.

i'm inclined to agree with him at the moment

Oh I’m not saying I disagree.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Is this one the parody account?

ooh oh yeah, thats the real Sakurai. the parody account has two is on sakurai

 

[Pyra]

But sliced bread isn't a video game character, so he's already not happening /s

I can't believe people are overlooking the Bread's Bizarre Adventure mange that he premiered in.

 

[Deleted member]

ooh oh yeah, thats the real Sakurai. the parody account has two is on sakurai

Oh my god.
OH MY GOD.
EVERYONE HOLD EVERYTHING
THE REAL SAKURAI MAY HAVE BEEN ON MY SOUNDCLOUD
Holy **** I'm legit on the verge of happy tears here

 

[Deleted member]

I can't believe people are overlooking the Bread's Bizarre Adventure mange that he premiered in.

Bread was created as a multi-media deal, he’s still eligible guys!

 

[Opossum]

Bread was created as a multi-media deal, he’s still eligible guys!

I think you mean edible.

 

[REZERO]

But sliced bread isn't a video game character, so he's already not happening /s

Shhhhh we don't need to let the population know sliced bread's secret. We all know it was a slice of bread that is a game character.

 

[Pyra]

Oh my god.
OH MY GOD.
EVERYONE HOLD EVERYTHING
THE REAL SAKURAI MAY HAVE BEEN ON MY SOUNDCLOUD
Holy **** I'm legit on the verge of happy tears here

it is 4 am in japan

Bread was created as a multi-media deal, he’s still eligible guys!

i mean

does Bread have a spirit??

 

[Pakky]

Loud fart noise.

 

[Deleted member]

it is 4 am in japan

It was like almost 6 hours ago
11 pm isn't too late now is it?

But sliced bread isn't a video game character, so he's already not happening /s

Shhhhh we don't need to let the population know sliced bread's secret. We all know it was a slice of bread that is a game character.

 

[Deleted member]

Loud fart noise.

Yeah Laxchris? No thanks

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Loud fart noise.

Don't remind me...

 

[Wademan94]

Loud fart noise.

 

[REZERO]

Also a slice of bread could totally be a smash character:

look at the physics

 

[osby]

I think you mean edible.

He'd be our third edible fighter rep after Yoshi and Falco.

 

[Deleted member]

Loud fart noise.

If you don’t like him, don’t link his videos and give him attention. Simple concept I assure you