Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[staindgrey]

I won’t care if there’s no smash news if the game awards are even half as entertaining as they were last year.

The only thing I'm not excited about (aside from the awards themselves, just get RDR2's GOTY out of the way and get over it) is the inevitable Death Stranding teaser.

Everything I have seen about that game makes me uncomfortable in a very bad way.

 

[Bionichute]

The only thing I'm not excited about (aside from the awards themselves, just get RDR2's GOTY out of the way and get over it) is the inevitable Death Stranding teaser.

Everything I have seen about that game makes me uncomfortable in a very bad way.

i really love how death stranding looks so different strokes

 

[Pyra]

yall forgetting that rob exists

ROB, ROB's 7 alts, what are the other 2

 

[Wyoming]

Sylux is currently, a nothing character.

There is nothing there.

Just ten years of teases that there might be something.

Good for him that the day he could truly develop is ideal timing for Smash DLC then

 

[Deleted member]

Lets make it worse


It takes potshots at Demifiend like DmC

How would that work? Would a transparent blanket marked with black and blue lines fall on him or something?

 

[ColietheGoalie]

I'd be OK with another Metroid rep if only for another stage/new music. Don't think it's terribly likely though

 

[staindgrey]

We live in the timeline where y'all want Sylux and not Anthony Higgins

In my defense, I don't want either?

I want MP4 to have a brand new villain who isn't Sylux or tied down by any previous lore and I want that villain to be interesting. And if that happens, I want that character in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

ROB, ROB's 7 alts, what are the other 2

Do those ROB enemies in subspace count?

 

[Bionichute]

ROB, ROB's 7 alts, what are the other 2

rob, game and watch, villager, duck hunt, miis, dr mario, piranha plant, wii fit trainer

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

We live in the timeline where y'all want Sylux and not Anthony Higgins

Ah, you remembered him?

 

[Flyboy]

yall forgetting that rob exists

ROB IS MY BOY DON'T TOU DARE DO HIM DIRTY

Out of the games he was an important piece of gaming history and in the games he was a central figure in Brawl's story, continuity that was kept in Smash 4 so uhh, no?

 

[Droodle]

MRW when everyone is talking about characters like Banjo, Sylux, Bandana Dee, and Rex, when the obvious threat is preparing for Smash war.

 

[Idon]

Lets make it worse


It takes potshots at Demifiend like DmC

Itsuki looks at a mannequin with pair of black shorts on
"Not in a million years."

 

[Bionichute]

ROB IS MY BOY DON'T TOU DARE DO HIM DIRTY

Out of the games he was an important piece of gaming history and in the games he was a central figure in Brawl's story, continuity that was kept in Smash 4 so uhh, no?

before smash bros he was even less of an actual character than sylux, who did exist at the period and had speculation going for him because of prime 3's ending

 

[Luigi The President]

rob, game and watch, villager, duck hunt, miis, dr mario, piranha plant, wii fit trainer

ROB: Again, didn't know he was 10 characters lol, very different situation from Sylux. Sure, have the point, but there is a CLEAR distinction between the two's situations
Game and Watch: Literally almost all of his moves are references try again
Villager: See Game and Watch
Duck Hunt: See Game and Watch, dude busts out references to his home console and other classic games
Miis: Making something out of nothing...except a ton of the Mii Fighter moves are just basic martial arts, swordsmanship, gunning. I guess you can have this point, but you really shouldn't.
Dr Mario: He's literally Mario why is this a serious point. Dude also references his game through his Neutral Special.
Piranha Plant: See Game and Watch
Wii Fit Trainer: See Piranha Plant

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

MRW when everyone is talking about characters like Banjo, Sylux, Bandana Dee, and Rex, when the obvious threat is preparing for Smash war.

"Gandhi drops the bomb!"

 

[Pyra]

piranha plant

why are you throwing the most lore heavy character in the game under the bus like that

 

[Blargg888]

Huh, just realized that Roy's blog post was done last night.

I wonder why they decided to do Mewtwo last? I honestly thought they'd finish off with Luigi or Yoshi.

Ah well, it doesn't really matter anyways.

 

[praline]

We live in the timeline where y'all want Sylux and not Anthony Higgins

So the good timeline. Got it.

 

[Bionichute]

ROB: Again, didn't know he was 10 characters lol, very different situation from Sylux. Sure, have the point, but there is a CLEAR distinction between the two's situations
Game and Watch: Literally almost all of his moves are references try again
Villager: See Game and Watch
Duck Hunt: See Game and Watch, dude busts out references to his home console and other classic games
Miis: Making something out of nothing...except a ton of the Mii Fighter moves are just basic martial arts, swordsmanship, gunning. I guess you can have this point, but you really shouldn't.
Dr Mario: He's literally Mario why is this a serious point. Dude also references his game through his Neutral Special.
Piranha Plant: See Game and Watch
Wii Fit Trainer: See Piranha Plant

yeah but the specific argument is about if those are actual characters or not, i love almost every character here but i would never actually call any of them real characters

real characters as in actually having pre-established personality, not real characters as in playable

 

[Idon]

before smash bros he was even less of an actual character than sylux, who did exist at the period and had speculation going for him because of prime 3's ending

Yeah but that's not ROB's point for existence.
A lot of characters aren't meant to be deep but to fulfill their roles in their games. Most in fact are games first, story second.
Every character you've listed fulfills what they were set out to do.

However Sylux is meant to be the villain of Prime 4 (supposedly) and he has yet to fulfill that role or any significant role at all.

 

[RandomAce]

Don’t lie.

How many of you weebs thought Rodin was a playable character when you first saw him.

 

[Luigi The President]

yeah but the specific argument is about if those are actual characters or not, i love almost every character here but i would never actually call any of them real characters

NONE of these characters can classify as making something out of nothing, not even character-wise, all of them have established places in Nintendo history and the vast majority of them have lore and otherwise have game appearances. This is a silly argument, and Sylux is in a very different situation from every fighter you noted.

 

[Pyra]

yeah but the specific argument is about if those are actual characters or not, i love almost every character here but i would never actually call any of them real characters

real characters as in actually having pre-established personality, not real characters as in playable

Dr. Mario has more personality than Mario Mario sans besides RPG appearances

 

[Bionichute]

NONE of these characters can classify as making something out of nothing, not even character-wise, all of them have established places in Nintendo history and the vast majority of them have lore and otherwise have game appearances. This is a silly argument, and Sylux is in a very different situation from every fighter you noted.

you

you know sylux is playable in prime hunters right

 

[Flyboy]

before smash bros he was even less of an actual character than sylux, who did exist at the period and had speculation going for him because of prime 3's ending

more like sySUX

 

[Deleted member]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

I thought he was a skin but realised ‘oh wait he’s probably an assist’. I was mostly just rolling from the fact that the Bayonetta 2 switch teaser actually ended up being a hint.

 

[Idon]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

Nobody.
If you're not CG, you're a character. (Unless you're a non-Ken echo, in which case maybe some crazy guy out there thought he'd be a Ganondorf echo.)

 

[Pyra]

thought he'd be a Ganondorf echo

Which we needed about 14 more of than we got

 

[Luigi The President]

you

you know sylux is playable in prime hunters right

There is a reason I keep saying Sylux is in a different situation...

Sure, I forgot he was playable, I'll take the L, but I stand by the point that people are raising that he's yet to actually fulfill his purpose.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

I was hoping he was honestly. I nearly freaked out before they showed him as an assist

 

[Bionichute]

my echelon of wants right now is basicall

1. retro character
2. any villain character no matter how shallow
3. waddle dee
4. any other first party
5. any third parties

 

[staindgrey]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

The hell's a Rodin?

 

[Deleted member]

Sykux was a boss and playable. I’m not gonna argue he has tons of established character, because he doesn’t and is mostly riding on hints and teasers. But he has actually done stuff. Whether that makes him ‘worthy’ or established enough for smash is up to you.

 

[PeridotGX]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

For like 3 seconds.

I also got confused with the Castlevania stuff, so I momentarily thought Alucard was also playable.

 

[Bionichute]

Sykux was a boss and playable. I’m not gonna argue he has tons of established character, because he doesn’t and is mostly riding on hints and teasers. But he has actually done stuff. Whether that makes him ‘worthy’ or established enough for smash is up to you.

this is basically what i'm trying to say

i do want sylux but i do realize he is insanely shallow as a character and has not a lot going for him, but he is still MORE of a character than most of the retro guys (all of which i love do not get me wrong)

 

[Luigi The President]

this is basically what i'm trying to say

i do want sylux but i do realize he is insanely shallow as a character and has not a lot going for him, but he is still MORE of a character than most of the retro guys (all of which i love do not get me wrong)

I'll admit though, this is a valid point.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Don’t lie.

How many of you ****ers thought Rodin was a character when you first saw him.

*raises hand in shame*

 

[Deleted member]

Man we didn’t get a retro this game huh? Shame, those tend to be some of my favourite characters. Mach Rider was the character that interested me the most on the grinch leak.

 

[Bionichute]

like i love rob with all my heart and wish he was better but like

all of his characterization comes from smash bros. the same can be said for mr game and watch and (arguably) ice climbers. smash has the ability to really inject personality into truly nothing characters