Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Who the **** is Xenother and why do we trust them?

Apparently they're in the same circle as Verge or something

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

That game only had 8 drivers. That was a huge letdown to me.

Okay, but YOU COULD COMBINE THE CARS.

That was easily the best part of the game. Like, I'm surprised they never revisited that because it was an amazing idea.

 

[monadoboy]

Who the **** is Xenother and why do we trust them?

xenother
xeno other

"Other xeno rep" a.k.a. a LIE

 

[TheCJBrine]

They're not gonna start work on a planned 3rd-party character until negotiations/an agreement has been made, and there's no way they'll cut the character after all that.

However, I do doubt Steve being worked on before September even started, unless our SE character releases in March-July I guess.

 

[Deleted member]

Who the **** is Xenother and why do we trust them?

They’re a leader who PolarPanda and Vergeben talk with and seem to trust. Also ain’t seeing many trust him here now lol.
Nothing much else to discuss anyway

 

[FreeFox]

I still hate the Grinch Leak from the bottom of my soul to these days.

Definitely a contender for the top 5 worst moments of smash speculation.

Speaking of . I am surprised there isnt any footage of it yet despite all the info that has been given of the char. I expected people to at least try to play a bit of it.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Also, Piranha Plant has parameter data in the final build at the moment, but that's it.
Of course that's something that could have been cut for Steve, but this is how Bayo and Cloud got leaked as well. (Or kinda, the data was there but no one could connect who the characters were.)

You mean they have a placeholder?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Even with all this I don't quite get why only 3 leakers have discussed Steve as being in.

Because Nintendo spread the information out to try to prevent leaks. Not saying that’s what did happen. I have no idea. But it is easily explainable

 

[Deleted member]

You mean they have a placeholder?

They were just listed as Mario in the files with no data.

 

[Untouch]

You mean they have a placeholder?

Kind of.
The run speed, gravity, jump speed, etc is in.
At least it's speculated to be for Piranha Plant.
Parameter data for Cloud and Bayo were added to the game long before they were revealed too, it's why people think that Bayo was added before the ballot ended.
There's only parameter data for one extra character at the moment, which again, is assumed to be Piranha Plant.

http://www.kuroganehammer.com/Ultimate/RunSpeed

 

[Deleted member]

Reminder Brawl playtesters didn't see the full roster. It's entirely possible Steve was only in some playtesting builds.
I'm currently on team "Our first DLC characters are a Square and a Cube"

 

[Deleted member]

xenother
xeno other

"Other xeno rep" a.k.a. a LIE

elma still has a chance

 

[RyuhoFox]

Tbh, I kinda miss multiple playstyles. I wouldn't mind a few coming back in 3D games aside from Classic Sonic and Avatar.

I like them enough as long as they retain a sense of speed and aren't stupid like Big's fishing bullcrap. The avatar from Forces I actually wouldn't mind if it got a game that more properly focused on it. Making your own avatar and using it during some stages was probably one of the legitimately best parts of Forces imo. If it was given more development time I think it could have been fun on its own or alongside the modern Sonic style.

 

[osby]

elma still has a chance

That's a nice attitude to have.

I'm currently on team "Our first DLC characters are a Square and a Cube"

Not sold 100%, tbh, but I kinda want to put this on my sig.

 

[PsySmasher]

xenother
xeno other

"Other xeno rep" a.k.a. a LIE

"Elma and KOS-MOS still have a chance..." he tells himself.

 

[Robertman2]

Since people are talking the VGAs, i might as well put my predictions here.

• New trailers for Psychonauts 2, Death Stranding, Sekiro, & Bayonetta 3.
• Senran Kagura gets revealed for BBTAG.
• A revival of a dead IP (Klonoa, Gex, ETC.).
• 1st Smash Ultimate DLC character gets revealed.
• Something Metroid related.
• Other stuff idk.

Senran Kagura being revealed for BBTAG would likely be rightfully booed

 

[Deleted member]

"Elma and KOS-MOS still have a chance..." he tells himself.

I feel personally attacked

 

[Deleted member]

The fact that Noatesty needed to use a debug menu to find Pirahna Plant but didn’t mention Steve is definitely what’s causing me the the most doubt here,

 

[Untouch]

And we're back.

 

[Deleted member]

we back boys

 

[ClaTheBae]

why is this place so inactive right now what happened

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

oops double post
delete please

 

[Untouch]

why is this place so inactive right now what happened

Site just went down for 30 minutes.

 

[Idon]

Senran Kagura being revealed for BBTAG would likely be rightfully booed

They already have RWBY in it.
It's about the level of quality I would expect.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

And the site's back up

why is this place so inactive right now what happened

The site went down for a little bit

 

[Deleted member]

why is this place so inactive right now what happened

Moderators tried deleting the site.

 

[Bionichute]

Moderators tried deleting the site.

so it became tumblr for a bit?

 

[PsySmasher]

For a second, I thought it was my college's ****ty Internet connection acting up again.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Don't worry guys, there was no site crash. Just a site-wide brain fart that caused everyone to forget what they were thinking about, and therefore stop talking for a half hour.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Welcome back everyone. Glad that Crashboards is finished for the time being.

I've updated my signature slightly. It now includes my pipe dream for the end of the roster, and I removed my claim that Zoe would happen on Thursday.

Yeah, because Zoe is never happening.

It's not that his chance almost died. A miracle is possible and I believe in them

It's just that I'm willing to agree that he might not appear in Smash until Dragon Quest get first. In Term of JRPG it's FF/DQ/KH in that order.

And God knows if Square-Enix is willing to play ball twice.

This is the current situation, and even if we do get DQ Sora then has Geno to compete with. While I'm confident in his chances (Geno propaganda be damned), it's still something to consider.

I just want Sora in Smash you guys. That's it.

At least Erdrick will be cool. I have a theory about Smash Ultimate as a celebration of gaming in regards to DLC and each character will represent a different genre of gaming.

• Erdrick represents classic JRPGs, and I imagine him actually having an MP meter that he uses for his specials. Think of it like a cross between Robin's specials and Cloud's Limit Burst. I'll admit I'm unversed in Dragon Quest, and will likely have a better idea for it once I play Dragon Quest 3 for SNES (which is now on my backlog)
• Lloyd Irving represents action RPGs and completes the big three JRPG series. He'd have a fast combo based moveset revolving around chaining attacks (lvl 1-> lvl 2 -> lvl 3 -> lvl 4) into combos. Think Bayonetta, but more technical and easier to disrupt.
• Steve represents the sandbox genre, and is essentially a trapper-type character who adds hazards to the environment. Think Villager or Snake's C4, but for a good amount of his moveset.
• Doom Slayer represents the FPS genre, and pretty much all of his attacks involve different (non-real) guns from throughout the series, with each having different projectiles. Think Mii Gunner, but actually good.
• I'm less confident in my last pick, but potential inclusions are:
  • Phoenix Wright, who is a fighter who doesn't fight (like in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3) and represents the visual novel/mystery genre
  • Rayman, who (obviously) represents modern and classical platformers
  • Arle Nadja, who represents the puzzle genre...somehow (Puyo Puyo fans are free to elaborate here)
  • Yu Narukami/Joker, who represent modern JRPGs with a more action-based approach to combat compared to Erdrick

I'm very confident in Erdrick, Lloyd, Steve, and Doom Slayer, not so much on the fifth pick.

 

[TheCJBrine]

tbh Steve being tested just before September makes sense if we get the SE character in like Spring, maybe Summer time; there was a disclaimer that DLC would go through February 2020, and each character supposedly takes a year so y'know.

 

[Ura]

• A revival of a dead IP (Klonoa, Gex, ETC.).

*Foolishly gets hopes up for an Advance Wars revival.*

 

[Luigi The President]

Welcome back everyone. Glad that Crashboards is finished for the time being.

Yeah, because Zoe is never happening.

This is the current situation, and even if we do get DQ Sora then has Geno to compete with. While I'm confident in his chances (Geno propaganda be damned), it's still something to consider.

I just want Sora in Smash you guys. That's it.

At least Erdrick will be cool. I have a theory about Smash Ultimate as a celebration of gaming in regards to DLC and each character will represent a different genre of gaming.

• Erdrick represents classic JRPGs, and I imagine him actually having an MP meter that he uses for his specials. Think of it like a cross between Robin's specials and Cloud's Limit Burst. I'll admit I'm unversed in Dragon Quest, and will likely have a better idea for it once I play Dragon Quest 3 for SNES (which is now on my backlog)
• Lloyd Irving represents action RPGs and completes the big three JRPG series. He'd have a fast combo based moveset revolving around chaining attacks (lvl 1-> lvl 2 -> lvl 3 -> lvl 4) into combos. Think Bayonetta, but more technical and easier to disrupt.
• Steve represents the sandbox genre, and is essentially a trapper-type character who adds hazards to the environment. Think Villager or Snake's C4, but for a good amount of his moveset.
• Doom Slayer represents the FPS genre, and pretty much all of his attacks involve different (non-real) guns from throughout the series, with each having different projectiles. Think Mii Gunner, but actually good.
• I'm less confident in my last pick, but potential inclusions are:
  • Phoenix Wright, who is a fighter who doesn't fight (like in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3) and represents the visual novel/mystery genre
  • Rayman, who (obviously) represents modern and classical platformers
  • Arle Nadja, who represents the puzzle genre...somehow (Puyo Puyo fans are free to elaborate here)
  • Yu Narukami/Joker, who represent modern JRPGs with a more action-based approach to combat compared to Erdrick

I'm very confident in Erdrick, Lloyd, Steve, and Doom Slayer, not so much on the fifth pick.

Smash also represents...well, Nintendo.

We've gotten so used to third parties I think we sometimes forget what Smash is all about.

 

[Bionichute]

i think the lesson we should all take is to never be confident in any character until absolutely confirmed

 

[Captain Shwampy]

they should give sonic a boost meter that gradually fills up like clouds limit breaker and makes his attacks hit harder and faster

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Smash also represents...well, Nintendo.

We've gotten so used to third parties I think we sometimes forget what Smash is all about.

Smash Bros. Ultimate is a celebration of gaming more so than a celebration of Nintendo; the series as a whole has taken on a higher purpose. I remember Sakurai making a statement about it but I can't remember which Famitsu column or interview it is.

 

[ClaTheBae]

they should give sonic a boost meter that gradually fills up like clouds limit breaker and makes his attacks hit harder and faster

fun fact they actually shouldn't do that

 

[Bionichute]

Smash Bros. Ultimate is a celebration of gaming more so than a celebration of Nintendo; the series as a whole has taken on a higher purpose. I remember Sakurai making a statement about it but I can't remember which Famitsu column or interview it is.

yeah but all third parties would be a dumbass ****in stupid decision for nintendo to do

 

[PsySmasher]

Smash also represents...well, Nintendo.

We've gotten so used to third parties I think we sometimes forget what Smash is all about.

Tbh, half the people here forget that there are Nintendo characters when speculating DLC.

 

[Luigi The President]

Smash Bros. Ultimate is a celebration of gaming more so than a celebration of Nintendo; the series as a whole has taken on a higher purpose. I remember Sakurai making a statement about it but I can't remember which Famitsu column or interview it is.

I still feel there should be at least one Nintendo character.
And this feels odd to say when the majority of the cast were first party, but I wouldn't be shocked.