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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I low-key dislike you for making me put effort into reading a post on Smashboards. :glare:
Aw come on man! I had to do something to make things interesting :).
 

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I just spent the last 15 minutes watching footage of Pichu in Ultimate.

I might have to try playing Pichu in Ultimate. It looks pretty fun.
 

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I know people are saying that Sora was the character that was allegedly turned down, but that just doesn't add up by the tweet by Hashimoto showing support for Sora. Even if he was turned down, it would definitely be because of the nightmare he is to use, I don't really think that would be surprising for Nintendo but who knows. I'm not even sure insiders would even know about this info to be honest unless they were high up on the ladder also, so that claim is very suspicious not gonna lie.
 

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If we ignore the negatives though we let them continually drag down the fanbase as a whole with their bad behavior. Overall this sort of behavior is naive at best and horribly ignorant at worst.
Then that's the peoples faults and not ours
 
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I’ll be honest.

I do a lot of stuff IRL and many other things outside this place...
But Smashboards is adictive.

It is fun to post here.
 

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That whole Square-Enix Rumours made me think even more, when I though I would just drop it lmao

>3 Names were "serious" considered
>1 Leak bait
>1 That was said no and shocked the creators who wanted their characters in
>2 were seriously discussed

I'm thinking of multiple possibilities.

>1 Leak bait
That one can shared for me by three characters.

Geno: who would be the easiest leak bait ever, with his history of the smash community, anyone leaking smash, would leak him first in that SE list.
Crono: as a surprising Nintendo related Leak-Bait who's in the same boat as Geno, but he have the class to be a runner up of protagonist of maybe the best JRPG ever.
Sephiroth: "We have Cloud, so Sephiroth might be obvious!"


>1 That was said No and shocked the Creators
Sadly here...I can only see two options.

Sora: I can see Nomura and Hashimoto, heck, even Shimomura rallying for Sora to be in Smash, only not for Disney, but Square to say no.
Dragon Quest: I can also see the same things happening with DQ, where the assle to share cut with multiple studios, alongside the composer made them directly say no while it could have shocked it's creator.

>2 were seriously discussed
Crono : By luck, Crono is actually one I can see seriously discussed and choosen as a compromise if Dragon Quest was directly refused.
Geno: Do I need to write a paragraph? Seriously? C'mon.
Sora: Yes, even against all odds, and even if it's almost sure that he was shot down...I can feel that Sora was probably discussed seriously a way or Another if DQ was the one shot down, then I'm sure it's him.
DQ: If Sora was the one Shot down the competition would be either DQ or Geno because of all the history DQ have as the Grandfather of JRPG and once Rival of FF itself.

Yeah, a lot of name uh? Doesn't help us a lot. But what I can say is that, it just show us multiple scenario possible
Geno Leak bait > Sora Shoot down = Crono vs DQ
Geno Leak bait > DQ shoot down = Sora vs DQ
Sephiroth Leak bait > Sora shoot down = Geno vs DQ
Sephiroth leak bait > DQ shoot down = Sora vs Geno
Sephiroth Leak bait > Sora AND DQ shoot down = Crono vs Geno
etc etc...

Basically, it doesn't help us at all, but I find it all more interesting to think about it with those new informations
 

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Oh boy...
Well, I went to check if it's something I can say-
But in my ends, what I heard was that Sora had Conflincting information as back as mid-november. (Which two people in that thread could verify as something I did say) Which seems to weirdly follow the Narative that is presented here that creator want said characters in, but square are being ******** about it and were trying to make them reconsider it.

I only heard later on, after the DM leak a few days before it publicly leak that Vergeben said he wasn't the one.

So I'm surprised about it myself-
So you're saying that Sora truly isn't in the game?

At least it's good for me to get my hopes down now instead of later.
 

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So you're saying that Sora truly isn't in the game?

At least it's good for me to get my hopes down now instead of later.
Not saying that.
I'm just saying that there a chance that he was the one shot down and that Nomura/Hashimoto were shocked about it and tried to make things move.
He still have a chance, it all depends on what was the mood the Square-Enix exec were this morning for the negociation
 

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I narrowed down the most likely SE characters to 10.

1. Sephiroth
2. Noctis
3. Slime
4. Erdrick
5. Luminary
6. Crono
7. 2B
8. Bub (Bubble Bobble)
9. Geno
10. Sora

Who do YOU think will be the most likely new squenix character?
 

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Ironically, I love Isabelle as character, but I hated the idea of her being playable in Smash, especially as a unique fighter.
I thought that she was the PERFECT assist trophy and had no reason to be upgraded besides popularity.
I've accepted the fact she's in, and I'll still give her a try when the game comes out, but I still have that same opinion today.

Incineroar was the one of the few prominent Gen 7 Pokemon that I DID NOT want.
However, I do admit that it has a lot of flair and personality in its moveset, which I like.
Again I'll try it out, but I'm still not too happy on its inclusion.
Yeah Isabelle feels very much like a marketing pick, but it clearly worked. I think that's where AC characters should stop though.
I got an idea. TEAM ECHOS OR TEAM BASE?
:ultlucina::ultdarksamus::ultrichter: definitely more on Team Echo.
I know people are saying that Sora was the character that was allegedly turned down, but that just doesn't add up by the tweet by Hashimoto showing support for Sora. Even if he was turned down, it would definitely be because of the nightmare he is to use, I don't really think that would be surprising for Nintendo but who knows. I'm not even sure insiders would even know about this info to be honest unless they were high up on the ladder also, so that claim is very suspicious not gonna lie.
All Hashimoto said was that he'd like to see Sora in Smash, even if he deleted the tweet I doubt it meant much.
 

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So when can we expect the reviews for Ultimate to show up?

So far Brawl was the highest rated Smash game on Metacritic with a score of 93 beating Melee's and for WiiU's 92
 

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I still think its possible the SE rep could be Sora next week at the VGA especially as a means to prepare and in honor of Kingdom Hearts III. That and Verge did say the first of the five DLC characters announced would be a SE rep. Such timing is now perfect for that honestly.

Although when you get down to it he's really a Disney rep.
 
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I got an idea. TEAM ECHOS OR TEAM BASE?
Mostly base, but some are pretty equal. I’m definitely showing them unstacked on the CSS though.

:ultmarth:>:ultlucina:
Not too big a fan of Marth’s kit, so here it’s just that he’s the original.
:ultpit:>:ultdarkpit:
I hate the moveset and series, and this clone is literal trash in my eyes.
:ultpeach:=:ultdaisy:
Both great. Maybe Daisy edges out a bit, but they’re both awesome.
:ultroy:=:ultchrom:
No real attachment to either, but I do feel sorry for both of them a bit. Too much salt for them.
:ultsamus:>:ultdarksamus:
Another version of I dislike the moveset so the original wins. I like her more than Marth though.
:ultsimon:=:ultrichter:
Don’t really know either, so they’re pretty well equal.
:ultryu:=:ultken:
Let's face it - he’s basically unique. Would have preferred Tails though.
 

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All in all keep eyes on K Rool and Incineroar.
Hey now! I wouldn't sleep on Ridley. For all we know, we could see him get Mewtwo treatment in the future. Hopefully the first round being the day 1 patch.
 
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So when can we expect the reviews for Ultimate to show up?

So far Brawl was the highest rated Smash game on Metacritic with a score of 93 beating Melee's and for WiiU's 92
Well apparently review copies got cancelled because of the Mexico leak, so we probably won't see them till after launch.
 

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I'm betting that Geno was the one shot down, I don't see reason for Square to include him over any of the other properties they own. I've never found Geno likely and him as DLC doesn't make much sense imo because he hasn't been relevant for two decades.
 

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All Hashimoto said was that he'd like to see Sora in Smash, even if he deleted the tweet I doubt it meant much.
It shows his support for the character, and that is step one for Sora's inclusion. It means a lot if this narrative about the SE rep is true.
 

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I'm not exactly Mr. Current events so forgive me for asking, but what's the deal with this supposed SE list? Where does it come from?
You've placed everything, on this one, poor guy...
In the end, we can blame John Enix for whatever happens.
 
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Holy wumpa... Godzilla: King Of The Monsters news!

>New trailer next week.
>The star from Stranger Things present in the film will return for Godzilla vs Kong.
>We finally have the official looks of Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah and Godzilla for the movie thanks to new figures!

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I personally like these designs, and i am looking forward to the trailer.
 

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I'm betting that Geno was the one shot down, I don't see reason for Square to include him over any of the other properties they own. I've never found Geno likely and him as DLC doesn't make much sense imo because he hasn't been relevant for two decades.
Supposedly Geno's creators don't work at Square anymore, so they wouldn't have creators being shocked if they said no to Geno.

and technically Smash and SMRPG ports make him relevant :small trollface:
 
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That whole Square-Enix Rumours made me think even more, when I though I would just drop it lmao

>3 Names were "serious" considered
>1 Leak bait
>1 That was said no and shocked the creators who wanted their characters in
>2 were seriously discussed

I'm thinking of multiple possibilities.

>1 Leak bait
That one can shared for me by three characters.

Geno: who would be the easiest leak bait ever, with his history of the smash community, anyone leaking smash, would leak him first in that SE list.
Crono: as a surprising Nintendo related Leak-Bait who's in the same boat as Geno, but he have the class to be a runner up of protagonist of maybe the best JRPG ever.
Sephiroth: "We have Cloud, so Sephiroth might be obvious!"


>1 That was said No and shocked the Creators
Sadly here...I can only see two options.

Sora: I can see Nomura and Hashimoto, heck, even Shimomura rallying for Sora to be in Smash, only not for Disney, but Square to say no.
Dragon Quest: I can also see the same things happening with DQ, where the hassle to share cut with multiple studios, alongside the composer made them directly say no while it could have shocked it's creator.

>2 were seriously discussed
Crono : By luck, Crono is actually one I can see seriously discussed and choosen as a compromise if Dragon Quest was directly refused.
Geno: Do I need to write a paragraph? Seriously? C'mon.
Sora: Yes, even against all odds, and even if it's almost sure that he was shot down...I can feel that Sora was probably discussed seriously a way or Another if DQ was the one shot down, then I'm sure it's him.
DQ: If Sora was the one Shot down the competition would be either DQ or Geno because of all the history DQ have as the Grandfather of JRPG and once Rival of FF itself.

Yeah, a lot of name uh? Doesn't help us a lot. But what I can say is that, it just show us multiple scenario possible
Geno Leak bait > Sora Shoot down = Crono vs DQ
Geno Leak bait > DQ shoot down = Sora vs DQ
Sephiroth Leak bait > Sora shoot down = Geno vs DQ
Sephiroth leak bait > DQ shoot down = Sora vs Geno
Sephiroth Leak bait > Sora AND DQ shoot down = Crono vs Geno
etc etc...

Basically, it doesn't help us at all, but I find it all more interesting to think about it with those new informations
I would say our main three here are Sora, DQ, and Geno. I could even see Geno being the one turned down, as his popularity among the Smash and core fanbases would certainly surprise me if I were the creator of Geno and Square Enix immediately turned him down.
 
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