Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[praline]

So third times the charm but uhh... are there any Bomberman spirits?

 

[Deleted member]

Saw some conversation of PSASBR. Based on the design choices, like that special attacks were the only way to get kills, it really didn’t stand a chance in being that game that would finally rival Super Smash abroad. Frankly, I don’t think there will be one like Smash that, well, isn’t Smash.

The reason Smash exists as it does today is because Nintendo has, frankly, the best 1st party lineup on any gaming company. Because Sony and Microsoft have always relied on 3rd party games, it makes the creation of a Smash like game that much harder. While Nintendo owns practically 90% of the roster, there are just under 10 characters they don’t own, and at the very least they are high tier picks.

Add the fact that Smash started small and has grown over time. Sure we’re at almost 80 now, but when you have basically a rookie dev team that doesn’t have the clout to get characters like Snake or Cloud, and you compare that with a guy and his team that pay attention to the most excruciating details and do it well...it’s not hard to see why certain characters get to be in Smash but not Sony’s first try.

Like, the fact that a roster of almost 80 is still having attention paid to balance is just nuts. PSASBR has what...roughly 20, and it was a disaster?

PSASBR has potential, but it’s a huge challenge to overtake Smash at this point.

Smash literally has 74 (75 come February and 80 after DLC) characters, and that gives Smash something PSASBR wish it had; widespread appeal. There is literally something for everybody who plays this game. There's bound to be at least one character someone likes, or a character from a game somebody has played. Hell, it's almost impossible at this point for someone to NOT have heard of incredibly famous franchises like Pokemon and Mario, and if somebody has only ever heard of/played some of Nintendo's more niche franchises like Xenoblade and Mother, then they still have something to enjoy about this game.

 

[T3Z3R1]

Mewtwos disable got a major buff in its range pic.twitter.com/Yd6JmFGcvL

— Ner0 (@K0_Mitch) November 28, 2018

I have decided that this game is ****ing stupid

RISE UP MEWTWO MAINS,

ITS TIME TO DISABLE ALL OTHER MAINS AND REMAIN SUPERIOR OVER THE COMPETITIVE! LONG LIVE THE MEWTWO

 

[Deleted member]

RISE UP MEWTWO MAINS,

ITS TIME TO DISABLE ALL OTHER MAINS AND REMAIN SUPERIOR OVER THE COMPETITIVE! LONG LIVE THE MEWTWO

how you gonna disable me if you die at 50%

jokes aside though I really feel like Mewtwo is a sleeper top-tier

 

[PeridotGX]

There's only two logical choices for a proper non-Echo Gen 2 rep


Heracross and Tyranitar


Come at me

Scizor? Typlosion? Grovyle/Weavile?

Oh.

Hey, another glitch! This one really explains itself.

Yay, Nabbit glitch is good as back. I had fun messing with it before they patched it. I laughed way too hard at some parts of it (such as Nabbit staring at Shulk's FS)

 

[Kuon]

The data only mentions Rare in relation to the 12 DKC songs.

What are you getting at? I see that a lot of people liked this post, and I'm trying to understand why. I think I'm missing something here

 

[FreeFox]

Kencineroar, Plant, Datamine, Everyone's Dead.

I would add box theory was right, Vergeben was right, game has been leaked and datamined, DLC has been chosen and we will have to suffer through it.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Like is anyone going to answer my question?

What else got leaked that we don't already know?

 

[ClaTheBae]

how you gonna disable me if you die at 50%

jokes aside though I really feel like Mewtwo is a sleeper top-tier

It's not sleeper at all. He was top tier in Sm4sh and he only got buffs in this game. Mewtwo is def top 10 again

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly if PSABR didn't have the 'only supers can kill' I'd at least consider buying it, me and some friends played it when waiting for the August direct and we had lots of fun despite having no idea how anything worked. Roster had some slight issues (No Crash or Kazuma Kiryu were our group's biggest problems) but outside of the dude who has never touched a Playstation before, we all liked some of the roster choices

 

[Wyoming]

Conspicuous lack of music is a far bigger indicator of who may be DLC than the lack of a spirit, IMO.

No new Star Fox remix.
Finally Slippy slips in

 

[Tree Gelbman]

These last few days before the game are going to go extremely slow aren't they?

Hopefully the excitement of the Game Awards will help speed up the process to the Midnight release a bit.

 

[Deleted member]

Mewtwos disable got a major buff in its range pic.twitter.com/Yd6JmFGcvL

— Ner0 (@K0_Mitch) November 28, 2018

I have decided that this game is ****ing stupid

You say stupid, I say "actually usable now".
This is the buff Mewtwo needed

 

[Iridium]

Holy. Heck. Again.

Idon , these are some pretty good Shulk changes, don't you think? This goes for all Shulks, too.

 

[Deleted member]

Saw some conversation of PSASBR. Based on the design choices, like that special attacks were the only way to get kills, it really didn’t stand a chance in being that game that would finally rival Super Smash abroad. Frankly, I don’t think there will be one like Smash that, well, isn’t Smash.

The reason Smash exists as it does today is because Nintendo has, frankly, the best 1st party lineup on any gaming company. Because Sony and Microsoft have always relied on 3rd party games, it makes the creation of a Smash like game that much harder. While Nintendo owns practically 90% of the roster, there are just under 10 characters they don’t own, and at the very least they are high tier picks.

Add the fact that Smash started small and has grown over time. Sure we’re at almost 80 now, but when you have basically a rookie dev team that doesn’t have the clout to get characters like Snake or Cloud, and you compare that with a guy and his team that pay attention to the most excruciating details and do it well...it’s not hard to see why certain characters get to be in Smash but not Sony’s first try.

Like, the fact that a roster of almost 80 is still having attention paid to balance is just nuts. PSASBR has what...roughly 20, and it was a disaster?

PSASBR has potential, but it’s a huge challenge to overtake Smash at this point.

I should call Disney to see if they dare to make a Smash Bros rival.

 

[Wyoming]

Disable looks more like a projectile the way it travelled there.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Holy. Heck. Again.

Idon , these are some pretty good Shulk changes, don't you think? This goes for all Shulks, too.

I mean this isn't really anything new. We've known for a while how much his landing lag got reduced

 

[Galaxyman]

These last few days before the game are going to go extremely slow aren't they?

Hopefully the excitement of the Game Awards will help speed up the process to the Midnight release a bit.

that is extremely true and make me extremely sad. the worst part is im not getting smash ultimate until december 25.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

So third times the charm but uhh... are there any Bomberman spirits?

Well, I didn't think there were?

Besides maybe one for Bomberman himself, actually...

 

[Deleted member]

These last few days before the game are going to go extremely slow aren't they?

Hopefully the excitement of the Game Awards will help speed up the process to the Midnight release a bit.

They’re going to announce either Kratos or Arthur Morgan for smash depending on which one wins GOTY. Screencap this post.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

hey guys i haven't been here the past 2000 pages. can i get a 5 word summary?

What the **** just happened?

Scizor? Typlosion? Grovyle/Weavile?



Yay, Nabbit glitch is good as back. I had fun messing with it before they patched it. I laughed way too hard at some parts of it (such as Nabbit staring at Shulk's FS)

Scizor has a chance but he's Pokeball again

Typloshion isn't as popular as the three who were mentioned were

Grovyle and Weavile aren't Gen 2. Please do your homework again man

 

[Raxxel]

Disable looks more like a projectile the way it travelled there.

Disable actually was already a projectile in 4. I learned that the hard way when I one time had it reflected at me.

 

[T3Z3R1]

Holy. Heck. Again.

Idon , these are some pretty good Shulk changes, don't you think? This goes for all Shulks, too.

Looks like shulk gotta go fast!

 

[praline]

Well, I didn't think there were?

That is LAME

 

[Iridium]

I mean this isn't really anything new. We've known for a while how much his landing lag got reduced

I literally haven't seen any of this in action until right now, so that's why I found this important.

Eh, I also use him a bit, so...

 

[Deleted member]

They’re going to announce either Kratos or Arthur Morgan for smash depending on which one wins GOTY. Screencap this post.

They are going to reveal the new Superman game alongside the character in Smash.

And Superman will be followed by a Switch-exclusive Fantastic Four game alongside the First Family joining Smash too.

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Why am I being ignored, did I do something wrong or something? Sorry if I did anything wrong but I just want to know what else has been leaked...

 

[Mc.Rad]

Someone on 4chan made this image. What do you guys think?

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Holy **** they really did add Deathborn in there

Wow... I guess I really have nothing to complain about

 

[ClaTheBae]

Don't understand the Mewtwo buff. He didn't need it at all.

 

[PeridotGX]

What the **** just happened?



Scizor has a chance but he's Pokeball again

Typloshion isn't as popular as the three who were mentioned were

Grovyle and Weavile aren't Gen 2. Please do your homework again man

Oops, I meant Sneasel instead of Grovyle. Weavile is it's evolution so it sorta counts.

Also Typlosion is popular, plus it would be our first Fire-Type Pokemon that isn't terrible so that's a plus.

 

[kirbsmash]

PSASBR was fun, flawed as it may feels, I hate that they tried to make character rivals for one reason or other.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

By the way, here's the actual Paper Mario render that was edited for Ultimate

 

[vaanrose]

What are you getting at? I see that a lot of people liked this post, and I'm trying to understand why. I think I'm missing something here

People keep saying that Rare LTD was found in the datamine, usually as evidence that Banjo might be coming. It's been falsely spread that Rare "copyrights" are in the code, when the only mention of Rare LTD is that they're the composers for the 12 songs from Donkey Kong Country (and the DK Rap). The code even says that Nintendo owns the copyright to the music, Rare is only listed because they wrote the original songs and the game is giving them proper credit for that.

https://pastebin.com/eJC3DnCG

 

[Knight Dude]

They’re going to announce either Kratos or Arthur Morgan for smash depending on which one wins GOTY. Screencap this post.

Only the GOTY gets in? Ok...

Spider-Man for Smash. MAHVEL LIVES BAYBEE!!!

 

[Deleted member]

They are going to reveal the new Superman game alongside the character in Smash.

And Superman will be followed by a Switch-exclusive Fantastic Four game alongside the First Family joining Smash too.

First Family eh?

Spoiler: hey lois

im in smash

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

These last few days before the game are going to go extremely slow aren't they?

Hopefully the excitement of the Game Awards will help speed up the process to the Midnight release a bit.

Bruh, to be completely honest this week is flying by for me. Like i’m dead set on next Friday because I specifically took that day off, and the fact that tomorrow is already Thursday has just left me completely bamboozled.

I mean really, my weekend next week starts Thursday afternoon, so all I have to do is keep going with work and what not until then.

Next week will probably be complete trash in terms of speed, but man will it be soooooo worth it.

 

[Kuon]

What else got leaked that we don't already know?

I'm curious too

 

[Deleted member]

I'm curious too

Why am I being ignored, did I do something wrong or something? Sorry if I did anything wrong but I just want to know what else has been leaked...

Nothing much has leaked. Only that vergeben list iirc.

 

[ClaTheBae]

What else got leaked that we don't already know?

Just all the bosses and spirits and some WOL stuff. probably heard about it

 

[Kuon]

People keep saying that Rare LTD was found in the datamine, usually as evidence that Banjo might be coming. It's been falsely spread that Rare "copyrights" are in the code, when the only mention of Rare LTD is that they're the composers for the 12 songs from Donkey Kong Country (and the DK Rap). The code even says that Nintendo owns the copyright to the music, Rare is only listed because they wrote the original songs and the game is giving them proper credit for that.

https://pastebin.com/eJC3DnCG

So that means everyone thinking that Banjo "is in" because of this are probably wrong since it's only because of the DKC songs? I figured people would be upset about that. I thought people here wanted Banjo