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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
  • Toad
  • Paper Mario
  • Dixie vs. K. Rool is like picking a favorite child for me. Um...Dixie.
  • Ridley
  • Impa
  • Inciniroar
  • Bandana Dee
  • Tom Nook
  • Ninjara
  • HADES!
  • Wolf
  • Black Shadow
  • Crash, though both would be ideal, as unlikely as I feel Spyro is.
  • Rayman
  • Simon Belmont
 

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Ten out of eighteen pokemon types are represented in Smash 4:

Electric
- Pikachu
Fire - Charizard
Flying - Charizard
Fairy - Jigglypuff
Normal - Jigglypuff
Water - Greninja
Dark - Greninja
Psychic - Mewtwo
Fighting - Lucario
Steel - Lucario

Your task is to add the other 8 types with no more than 5 pokemon. Who do you pick?
A little late but:
Decidueye - Grass/Ghost
Alolan Sandslash - Ice/Steel
Zygarde 10% - Dragon/Ground (Note: I could have added Garchomp, but I like the idea of Zygarde a bit more).
Ivysaur - Grass/Poison (Note: I could have chose Salazzle, but I want Ivy back. I miss you Ivysaur!)
Armaldo - Rock/Bug
 

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Toad
Geno
K Rool
Ridley
Impa
Decidueye
Bandana Dee
Tom Nook
Springman
Hades
Wolf
Black Shadow
Crash
Rayman
Bomberman

Oddly enough, I have all of these characters on my prediction roster except for Tom Nook.
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Waluigi
Geno (This was a tough one)
Dixie
Sylux
Tingle
Decidueye
Bandana Dee (This was tough as well)
Isabelle
Springman
Hades
Wolf
Black Shadow
Spyro (Tough one again)
Rayman
Bomberman

Honestly, I like Paper Mario more than SMRPG, but I do think Geno would be the better decision in the end.
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Hmm...

Waluigi
Geno
K Rool
Ridley
I guess Tingle?
Decidueye
Bandana Dee
Isabelle... I guess
There are other options that I prefer above Springman
Medusa
Wolf
Black Shadow (NORIO WAKAMOTO)
This
Rayman
Oh... this one is hard... I will go with Simon because I have bigger familiarity with Castlevania.
 

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I miss pic of the day. Remember when people stayed up to 3:00 AM just to see a picture of Luigi's nose?
Pic of the day was the best. I still have fond memories of the Pic of the Day threads. My favorites by far were the pictures posted on August 11th, 12th, and 13th:

"Hello, I'm Samus! The Intergalactic Bounty Hunter!" "And I'm Meta Knight! Joining the battle!"
People were freaking out when nothing was revealed on the 12th.
 

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I really hope there's some successor to Smabura-Ken/Smash Bros. DOJO/Pic of the Day for this installment. The website they have so far for Smash Switch looks like it's definitely going to have an explosion in information at some point beyond the trailer and invitational links. I may not have been around for the Brawl DOJO, but boy was Pic of the Day a hoot to experience.
 

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I really hope there's some successor to Smabura-Ken/Smash Bros. DOJO/Pic of the Day for this installment. The website they have so far for Smash Switch looks like it's definitely going to have an explosion in information at some point beyond the trailer and invitational links. I may not have been around for the Brawl DOJO, but boy was Pic of the Day a hoot to experience.
The Brawl Dojo was absolutely amazing, the amount of information we got every day was staggering, and it also benefitted from there not being Directs back then, so there always was the chance that they'd reveal a newcomer, the "Warning Challenger Approaching" banner really got the adrenaline going. It began to get a bit **** towards the end, probably because they didn't anticipate the game's delay, and I fully understand why they cut it down to what Pic of the Day was as it must have been a ton of work, but it was special.
 

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Waluigi
- He'd be so much fun, especially if they did anything like the movesets posted around here that play up his ridiculous nature

Paper Mario
- Fond memories of the series, and he'd play totally different from Mario

K Rool
- Dixie is good, but a giant reptile with a gun is better

Ridley
- Whether or not he's likely, he's still my most wanted

Tingle
- Recurring and silly. I could dig it.

Decidueye
- Ghost archer beats boring cat design any day

Marx
- Love his design and he'd be a lot of fun to play I think

Isabelle
- Her personality wins out

Someone else from Arms
- Don't really care honestly

Medusa
- Villains

Wolf
- Vet deserves a comeback (and isn't skeevy)

Black Shadow
- Less swords, more evil

Crash
- Just a classic character that would bring great stages/music I have to believe

Rabbids
- Rayman is boring honestly, and the Rabbids are entertaining in my books

Simon Belmont
- Whips are cool
 

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Ten out of eighteen pokemon types are represented in Smash 4:

Electric
- Pikachu
Fire - Charizard
Flying - Charizard
Fairy - Jigglypuff
Normal - Jigglypuff
Water - Greninja
Dark - Greninja
Psychic - Mewtwo
Fighting - Lucario
Steel - Lucario

Your task is to add the other 8 types with no more than 5 pokemon. Who do you pick?
Decidueye, Zygarde (amorphous 10% with aspects of 50% for some moves, 100% final Smash), Beedrill, Aurorus
So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Waluigi, Neither (Paper Mario), K Rool, Ridley, Ganon (Tingle), Decidueye, The Dee, KK Slider (Nook), Helix, Either (Medusa), Either (Wolf), Black Shadow, Both (Crash), Pains me to actually say it (Rabbids), Belmont

Maybe I'll edit in explanations. Meh.
 
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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Waluigi

Paper Mario

Dixie

Sylux

Tingle

Decidueye

Bandana Dee

Isabelle

For Arms, I'm gonna go with Min Min.

To be honest, I'm not that big on the idea of anyone else joining from Kid Icarus at this point, but if I had to choose, Medusa.

Krystal. Star Fox Adventures is the only Star Fox I've played.

Samurai Goroh

Spyro

Rayman

Bomberman
 
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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Waluigi
Geno
King K. Rool
Ridley
Impa (even though I would rather take Ganon or Skull kid)
Decidueye (even though I would rather have Grovyle from PMD or if had to go with a 7th gen Pokemon I would take Tapu Koko)
Marx (even though Doroach is my most wanted Kirby rep)
Isabelle (even thought I think Mr. resetti would be more interesting)
Springman
Medusa
Wolf
Black shadow
Crash bandicoot
Rayman
Bomberman
 
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Pic of the day was the best. I still have fond memories of the Pic of the Day threads. My favorites by far were the pictures posted on August 11th, 12th, and 13th:

"Hello, I'm Samus! The Intergalactic Bounty Hunter!" "And I'm Meta Knight! Joining the battle!"
People were freaking out when nothing was revealed on the 12th.
Why people freaked out about the lack of reveal on August 12th?

Was it because because of something related to the ESRB leak?
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Toad (Or Captain Toad, specifically.)
Paper Mario (Only if Dr. Mario gets cut again. Three Marios would be too many, in my opinion.)
King K. Rool (Although I want Dixie just as much, Smash needs more villains.)
Ridley (He's got potential and he'd be an awesome addition. Sylux sadly doesn't have much to work with... Unless Prime 4 brings him back with some new tricks.)
Impa
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee (He has had multiple appearances as a playable character in the Kirby series, and the spear ability alone gives him enough material for a moveset.)
Isabelle
Springman (If any character should represent ARMS, it should be Springman, considering he's the most recognizable character.)
Medusa (A female villain. Bam, two for one.)
Wolf (I want my main back.)
Samurai Goroh
Spyro (I like Crash too, but part of me wants Spyro a little more.)
Rayman (I think he deserves a promotion from trophy to playable.)
Bomberman
 

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Why people freaked out about the lack of reveal on August 12th?

Was it because because of something related to the ESRB leak?
People genuinely thought Meta Knight had been deconfirmed by a Mii Costume. It was a little silly, but since Smash 3DS was getting released a month later, I guess people were starting to get anxious of unconfirmed characters getting cut.
 

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I’m not sure why so many people are against another kid Icarus character, considering Sakurai made the last game and clearly had a lot of passion making it. Sure he created Kirby but he breathed new life into kid Icarus. And if he isn’t making a new game he should keep it alive in smash, especially with the great cast of characters he created.
 

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Why people freaked out about the lack of reveal on August 12th?

Was it because because of something related to the ESRB leak?
Meta Knight had yet to be revealed at this point, so the Mii Costume for Meta Knight was the first glimpse of Meta Knight that we got in Smash 4. People expected Meta Knight to be revealed the next day, or at least something related to Meta Knight.

The next day, Sakurai released a picture of the Namco Special Flag, with absolutely no relation to Meta Knight, and people were really confused.

Meta Knight was revealed the next day. To quote an old comment on the matter, "The weird thing about this isn't the fact that there was a fake Meta Knight, followed by a confirmation. It's that Sakurai did the imposter picture, then something totally unrelated, and only THEN did he reveal Meta Knight."
 
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People genuinely thought Meta Knight had been deconfirmed by a Mii Costume. It was a little silly, but since Smash 3DS was getting released a month later, I guess people were starting to get anxious of unconfirmed characters getting cut.
Oh yeah, i remember now.

Funnily enough, Meta Knight was confirmed like, 2 days later in the same month. and now i remember correctly that the ESRB didn't had Full-blown coverage until August 20th (by that i mean the screenshots)
 
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I’m not sure why so many people are against another kid Icarus character, considering Sakurai made the last game and clearly had a lot of passion making it. Sure he created Kirby but he breathed new life into kid Icarus. And if he isn’t making a new game he should keep it alive in smash, especially with the great cast of characters he created.
I think you're using the words "against" and "expecting" interchangeably.

Am I against Viridi or Medusa being in Smash? Not at all. Do I expect either? Not really, as Kid Icarus hasn't done anything recently. Let's wait and see what the future of the series holds before we start adding newcomers.
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Toad
Geno
Dixie
Ridley
Impa
Decidueye
Bandana Dee
Tom Nook
Springman
Medusa
Wolf
Black Shadow
Crash
Rayman
Simon Belmont
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Oh...a roster with this newcomers would be SICK.
Kind of "obvious", but amazing.
 

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Whats the consensus on chibi robo's chances of getting in? I've been routing for the guy forever it seems like at this point.
 

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Whats the consensus on chibi robo's chances of getting in? I've been routing for the guy forever it seems like at this point.
There's a lot of characters to fit in. Not as much as last time, but it depends if they want to focus on including lesser gem characters which is not something we've seen much of since Smash 64 & Melee. In which case, I would say Chib-Robo & Dillon are good contenders.
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Fairly easy.

Waluigi
Geno
K Rool
Impa
Decidueye
Bandana Dee
Isabelle
Springman
Medusa
Wolf
Hmm... As nice as it would be for Black Shadow to have Ganondorf's old moveset, I feel like he would be slightly underwhelming, aesthetically.. But, Black Shadow anyway. I want Ganondorf to be unique.
Hmm. Uh.. Spyro.
Rayman
Bomberman
 

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Does anyone else think that if the game is just a port plus, so more or less the same game but with new content, that it actually increases the chance of more new characters. It would mean the dev team would have more time to work on and balance more characters. I also think it might mean that they could have added more characters that are considered too late (Xenoblade 2 and Arms).

Does anyone else think this is likely if it's a port? I've seen a lot of people assume that if it's a port it will have minimal new content but that seems to be backwards for me. I'm actually hoping it's more of a port plus for these reasons.
 

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They're... Not the same game? That's kinda confusing..
Chibi-Robo's a game where a small robot helps out around the house, while Custom Robo is a game where you build robots and have them fight.
 

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As for me it would be:
Waluigi - I dunno why but Toad irk me to no end. Thanks Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon :D

Paper Mario - One of my most favourite series and of my most wanted newcomers

Dixie - I'm more into recent DK games, especially Tropical Freeze

Ridley - Don't care about him but I want you guys to be happy too.

Impa - Tingle is a gruesome abomination after all.

Decidueye - One word: GHOST-TYPE (or maybe does that count as two words?)

Bandana Dee - THE most wanted newcomer.

Isabelle - She seems more iconic than Nook as far as I can tell.

Twintelle - Much more interesting that Spring-Man, which is like one of the most boring people on the cast.

Medusa - What can I say, I love snakes.

Wolf - More interesting I guess.

Black Shadow - Because Goroh is ugly as sin.

Spyro - Not that I care about him more than Crash but I find him far more aesthetically pleasing.

Rabbids - Rayman and his design can burn in the fiery pits of hell where they belong. (Not that I hate his games, I never tried them but something with Rayman's design repulses me uncontrollably. Don't hate me for this D: )

Bomberman - He is cute.
 
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Custom Robo sounds like a more Smash-applicable game imo. Ray 01 is definitely the robot I'd want in Smash.
Eh, I dont really agree. He has lots of moveset potential using the items he finds around the house and uses as tools. I would check out ssf2's version of him to see what I mean
 

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I keep seeing people talk about Isabelle. Is she in the first game? I only played the first Animal Crossing, and I don't remember her. Not that I'm saying people are wrong, but I remember Tom Nook more than any other AC character.
 

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I think Custom Robo should be given another chance on the Switch. Who doesn't like customizing robots and having them fight? Nintendo just need to properly advertise it.
 

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I keep seeing people talk about Isabelle. Is she in the first game? I only played the first Animal Crossing, and I don't remember her. Not that I'm saying people are wrong, but I remember Tom Nook more than any other AC character.
She's not in the original Animal Crossing.

Before New Leaf, Tom Nook was, arguably, the second big Animal Crossing character.
 
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Why was Wolf cut from Smash 4? Wolf better come back.
Something about saying Wolf is "low priority". He felt like Wolf was not as essential of a character to add as others I believe.
I do hope Wolf comes back, we just got to see.
 

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So heres some questions. Would you rather have:

Toad or Waluigi
Geno or Paper Mario
Dixie or K Rool
Ridley or Sylux
Impa or Tingle
Decidueye or Inciniroar
Bandana Dee or Marx
Isabelle or Tom Nook
Springman or someone else from Arms
Hades or Medusa
Wolf or Krystal
Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh
Crash or Spyro
Rayman or Rabbids
Bomberman or Simon Belmont
Waluigi
Geno
K. Rool
Ridley
Impa
Decidueye
Bandana Dee
Isabelle
Springman
Medusa
Wolf
Black Shadow
Rayman
Bomberman
 

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I keep seeing people talk about Isabelle. Is she in the first game? I only played the first Animal Crossing, and I don't remember her. Not that I'm saying people are wrong, but I remember Tom Nook more than any other AC character.
Isabelle debuted in Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but since then she has been heavily marketed to the point where many people, myself included, believe she has a chance at the roster.
 
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