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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.

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ToasterBrains said:
Galeem... Galleom... Galeem... Galleom...
Hm...
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Golem.



EDIT: Oh right. Smashboards is apparently anti-image today.

The joke is it's Shale from Dragon Age Origins. There.
 
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DarthEnderX said:
I absolutely want Galeem to be revealed to be something else, and not just another dumb OC boss.
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Well.... what could he be then? I don't think not having an OC main villain would work considering the power scale of characters in Smash... not saying that it ISN'T ridiculous to see Pichu beating the **** outta Bayo, (part of the charm tho) but if, say, Zanza is almost equal in power to Shulk it would be mad wack to see Zanza winning vs all the Smash characters + Shulk. I hope you get what I mean
 
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Welp, "surprise" DLC picks = Pink Gold Peach levels of obscurity and stupidity.

I jest. But that, Sakurai saying Nintendo gave him the list to pick from, and Reggie's insistence that fan polls/input aren't going to influence DLC picks are all very bad signs that these are going to be boring corporate picks. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

And FINALLY Sonic gets something new!! Took them long enough.
 
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Diem said:
So yeah, I guess there was a big press event where a bunch of different gaming sites got to play Ultimate with few restrictions. GameInformer has a pretty cool article up right now. Here's some highlights:


So when Sakurai was saying they streamlined the process to unlock characters, I guess he really meant it. I know it only took me an hour or so to unlock all the fighters in Smash Wii U, but that was just monotonous grinding of 100 Vs. matches with 1-stock Sudden Death games against the CPU to unlock just 8 characters (what was the point?). Curious to see how all 66 characters are unlocked, either in Spirits or through other criteria.



So Classic mode allows 2 players, and there are unique bonus stages. This makes the lack of bonus stages in the Stadium section a little odd, but I'm very glad they're back for Classic at least. Smash 4's Classic was so dull compared to the previous games because it lacked anything unique or interesting like that.


It's fun that Isabelle is so powerful. I also am glad that her differences from Villager make her a bit more aggressive. I love Animal Crossing, but I hated Villager's playstyle, so I've been hoping that Isabelle would be a good alternative.


So Spirits and Adventure Mode are two separate modes. I was a little confused on that, since the Adventure Mode looked like it was Spirits, given the menu layout at least. Weird that it's called "Spirits Board," though.


So here's how "Spirits Board" works. I guess it's like a bulletin board, hence the name? Who knows. The fact that it cycles every 5 minutes is also nice, because that means after every fight or two, you have brand new options, so it doesn't get stale.


Now I'm confused. First I heard that Sakurai said in the Japanese Direct that there wouldn't be additional cutscenes. Now there's more of them? Plural? Do they mean the little cutscenes for bosses, like we've seen with Dracula and Galleom, or do they mean actual pre-rendered cutscenes? Hm...

Actually, there was the cutscene showing how Mario was captured, and how a duplicate of him was made and possessed by a Spirit. So that could be one. That means there are others, too. Well, that's a very pleasant surprise.


So there is more of a story reason why Kirby is the survivor, and he is the only character you can play at the beginning. Awesome, I love it.


In what other game are you going to be able to say "I fed Metal Sonic so many snacks he leveled from 1 to 99 so that he could help Kirby save the world"?


Interesting, so unlocking characters in World of Light is slower than unlocking them through whatever other criteria exists. So I guess that "streamlined" method is separate from the slower-paced Adventure Mode.


So it looks like NoA already knows who the DLC characters are, which is really interesting. Why would they know already? Perhaps they played a hand in the selection?
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Jesus that DLC quote is hype. I have a feeling that's it's going to be better than we all think. Verg has not mentioned any specific character and Hitagi keeps backtracking and has now even stopped answering questions.
 
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After that interview, I'm 95% certain one of those DLC characters is going to be Funky Kong.

He's still MIA right now.
 
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DarthEnderX said:
Master Core, Tabuu, Zero2, Giygas, etc.
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Master Core and Tabuu are OC bosses though, and Giygas is beaten by Ness' party alone. It wouldn't make any sense for Giygas to be able to defeat the entire Smash roster, which includes Ness, when he couldn't beat 4 psychic kids and the power of friendship. Idk anything about Zero2 but I'm assuming they get beaten by Kirby don't they?
 
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GoldenYuiitusin said:
After that interview, I'm 95% certain one of those DLC characters is going to be Funky Kong.

He's still MIA right now.
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I love Funky, but him before Dixie would send me into a deep depression.
 
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Oh man, my hype for Smash is peaking again.

I've just been listening to the extended version of the BotW Trailer theme (WTF THAT'S IN?!?!) and I am so ready to start playing this game!

Speaking of music though...how are they gonna handle it? Especially for series like Mario with a million and a half songs. Will the 'My Music' section have to scroll through 100+ songs to set the ones you like? Or will we be able to assign certain songs to certain stages.

Also - there's a Super Mario World remix that damn well better be reclassified to a Yoshi song, since it is required by law to be on Melee Yoshi's Island.
 
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The fact Big the Cat is playable as an alt color of Incineroar before any other Sonic character makes me pissed but also it's so quintessential Sakurai I love it.
 
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Diddy Kong said:
Wait? It's official now?
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It's not lol. People keep making their own conclusions about unconfirmed "leaks"

All we know, truthfully, is that Minecraft content is coming. And even that isn't guaranteed because we haven't seen proof of it yet, even if Verg has a perfect track record so far.
 
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I watched the GameExplain showing off all the Spirits that were shown off during the Direct and on the blog/website. I am very much sure that DLC characters can be spirits.
 
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GoldenYuiitusin said:
After that interview, I'm 95% certain one of those DLC characters is going to be Funky Kong.

He's still MIA right now.
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No Dixie would be a shame, but could anyone really get mad at Funky getting in? After Incineroar, I'm doubling down in support for characters who ooze personality - so long as Funky didn't make generic gorilla noises, I'd be so down for the guy

... and watch him be top tier, just like Mario Kart Wii
 
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faygoshill said:
Master Core and Tabuu are OC bosses though
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And I'd rather they bring those back than making up ANOTHER new OC boss.

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and Giygas is beaten by Ness' party alone. It wouldn't make any sense for Giygas to be able to defeat the entire Smash roster, which includes Ness, when he couldn't beat 4 psychic kids and the power of friendship.
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You seem to grossly misunderstand how that battle went...
 
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I watched the GameExplain showing off all the Spirits that were shown off during the Direct and on the blog/website. I am very much sure that DLC characters can be spirits.
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I'd be willing to bet that there will be 1000+ spirits, and I doubt that's 1000+ characters deconfirmed
 
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It's not lol. People keep making their own conclusions about unconfirmed "leaks"

All we know, truthfully, is that Minecraft content is coming. And even that isn't guaranteed because we haven't seen proof of it yet, even if Verg has a perfect track record so far.
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To be fair, Verge is 100% right on the info he's given us so far. So whatever he says we ought to pay attention to. But as always, we should be wary of possibly Gematsu'ing and not take it as fact.

The fact he keeps waffling on Minecraft "content" vs. Steve being playable implies to me his sources haven't directly seen Steve but have only seen a stage and/or music, which could mean Steve is in or it could mean Banjo with a Minecraft stage. I'm inclined to believe that Verge and his sources are just being extra cautious but the heavy implication is Steve is the Microsoft rep.
 
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DarthEnderX said:
And I'd rather they bring those back than making up ANOTHER new OC boss.

You seem to grossly misunderstand how that battle went...
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I'll admit, I never played Earthbound, but I watched Chuggaconroys LP and the battle was losing for Ness and friends until Paula started to pray and everyone in the world started to pray for Ness and friends safety, including the player. Is that right? Since we don't know anything about how the power of prayer works in the Mother universe, it would be wise not to jump to conclusions on how strong it is, the only thing we can conclude is that Giygas IS stronger then Ness but probably not an unwinnable fight like Galeem was
 
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faygoshill said:
I'll admit, I never played Earthbound,
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The 4 psychic kids aren't able to do ANYTHING to hurt Giygas. Giygas is defeated by the combined prayers of everyone on Earth. Exactly the kind of thing that would take every Spirit in Smash to defeat.
 
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