Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[MrReyes96]

I recognize the possibility, but I still don't like it. Zelda is still associated with the goddesses in BotW, even if she gets the BotW redesign, I'd like her to keep her goddess powers.

Well technically she never had them in game, Link did. I think replacing them with the champion powers would work well as an update

 

[TheLastJinjo]

At least Tetra, Midna, Skull Kid and Ghirahim were main characters of their respective titles with substantial screentime and impact on the plot.

I don't necessarily like using ports as "evidence" for characters, but when the ports sell better than most original titles on the system, I think it says something. WW HD sold 2 million copies, TP HD sold 1.2 Million, and MM 3D sold almost 3 million. If the characters were passed over for fear of being one-notes that would eventually fade into obscurity, they've all proven to have lasting longevity now. Hyrule Warriors only showed that more with how well the fans responded to them all being playable.

You still have to justify "Well, why THIS one specifically?" The only one of those that I think would be self explanatory as a newcomer is Skull Kid.

 

[FUNT1MER]

YOu guys are clearly wrong we are obviously getting ty the Tasmanian Tiger as a playable character. Silly Billy’s

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I want Pauline because she's Pauline, I don't care about "reps" (I'm vehemently against the idea of shoving a character in because their series "deserves more reps"). I care because she's been around since the beginning, was neglected for far too long, and has finally made a comeback that made her even more appealing as a character to me.

And how would shoehorning a moveset on Pauline be any different than shoehorning one onto Rosalina? She sure as hell never puppeteered Lumas in Galaxy. It's so easy to say how great of an idea it was thanks to hindsight, but people pegged her as space Peach before she got into Smash. All the more reason for Sakurai to get creative with Pauline.

She might not have any Lumas lying around, but she could easily be the first musically inclined fighter.

I suppose that did come across as a bit crass. I apologize, James.

I’m still not entirely convinced that Pauline should be in, and in my humble opinion I feel as if a musical moveset would be placed onto a Rhythm Heaven character, especially if it was a consideration for Wii U/3DS.

However, you may be right. Pauline could get in as a musical fighter.

I do want to clarify, that I shouldn’t have used “anyone” in regard to anybody who speaks about Pauline. That was a generalization, and an unfair one. I should have worded it as “most i’ve seen”, because that would have been far more accurate.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I basically stopped posting once Roy was confirmed for Smash 4 back in June 2015 (I made only a few posts since then, only one in 2016, and none in 2017).

I intended for Smash 4 to be the final game in the series I would do any speculation for. I have lost nearly all of my interest in speculation and anticipation for future Smash Bros. titles. Nearly every character I wanted in has gotten in, and the few left that I care for, have sub-50% prospect of getting in at this point (most notably and unfortunately, Ridley).

However, due to this Smash Bros. installment having a very small speculation window from its unveil (Brawl's unveil to release date was 1 year and nearly nine months, Smash 4 was a year and three months, and assuming Smash Switch does release in December 2018 at the latest, it will be only nine months). At this point (ignoring how long the DLC period is, assuming there is DLC), there are only eight months of speculation left.

I have been out of the loop for nearly three years now. However, there are a few that wish for me to come back and do some more analyses for this upcoming Smash Bros. Truth be told, I am not anticipating this Smash Bros. game like I did the previous four titles. There has been an interest for me to do a reprise of my ULTIMATE character analysis topic that I did for Brawl and Smash 4. I will do as much.

There are 23 series now do analyses for (Mario, Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Wario, Pikmin, Kid Icarus, Animal Crosssing, Wii Fit, Punch-Out, Mii, Xenoblade, Splatoon, Retro, New Series, and Third Party), so it will take a lot of time to get everything done (I did not even finish the analyses for Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and New Series for Smash 4 due to how much more busy I was). However, I plan to get out one new series analysis every week (which will give me the pacing necessary to gradually chip away at the meatier and more time consuming series to properly analyze).

I did not plan on returning, and in many ways, my return is like that of a phantom. I do not intend to be at the forefront of speculation this time around, and there are many others who have taken up that baton. Like Miyamoto's suggestion to Itoi for the re-start of Mother 3's development, my place on the speculation scene will be that of a small play. I hope that through me publishing yet another iteration of my analysis topic that it gives the speculation scene a sense of continuity and history (my first detailed analyses were made over a decade ago).

I hope that my analyses offer some sober and detailed insight into the prospects of characters many cherish and desire to make either a reprisal or a grand debut in what is likely to be the biggest Nintendo release of the year. I also appreciate if any of you would help provide materials such as polls or particular official developer statements regarding contenders for Smash Bros. for the Switch (Smash 5... or Smash 6?). I will post a list of "contenders" (characters with at least a 25% prospect of being in the next Smash Bros. according to my own personal assessments) either later tonight or tomorrow. Please feel free to to PM me with any materials or links that you feel would be integral to a character's analysis and overall assessment.

It is my hope and ambition to have most of my analyses done months before the next game's release, and updating analyses as new information comes accordingly.

I might drop in a few threads to put my two cents in. It was really the fact that Smash 5/6 ended up happening so soon after the end of Smash 4 DLC (two years after Bayonetta and Corrin were released), and that there is still some interest in my work that I returned to do analysis for this game in the series. Had the next Smash Bros. title had the same break between announcements as Brawl and Smash 4 had (Brawl was announced when Melee was 4.5 years old, and Smash 4 when Brawl was 5.5 years old), I would likely have not even had interest to do a reprisal of the ULTIMATE analysis topic.

Regardless, I hope I can offer some interesting insight and have a different presence this time around than I did when I speculated for Melee, Brawl, and Smash 4. I hope I can offer encouragement to other speculators and the fans of particular characters as well, and I see a lot of good work with the next generation of speculators during the twilight of Smash 4 (such as PushDustin's website). It is good to be back.

If possible, I could help you out in your assessments for this speculation period. I am pretty much 100% more focused on figuring out the roster for this game. If possible, make Animal Crossing one of your first analyses, because it is by far one of the most interesting subjects to discuss in speculation in terms of already represented franchises getting more characters.

 

[Arcadenik]

Him not being in hyrule warriors is a crime

If we ever get Hyrule Warriors 2 and not a third Hyrule Warriors port (after 3DS and Switch), Groose definitely should be added to the roster.

I also want the Oracles (Din, Nayru, and Farore), Koume and Kotake (as a team), Blind the Thief, Error from Zelda II, Madame MeowMeow with her pet Bow-Wow, the Postman (as a character, not as a costume). Beedle, Dampe (as a ghost), and the original Ganon (from NES and SNES games).

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Animal Crossing is a curious one as Villager is based off the Wild World/City Folks version but most of the other in-game content is based off New Leaf.

I guess his scale and design was decided early on.

 

[Troykv]

I basically stopped posting once Roy was confirmed for Smash 4 back in June 2015 (I made only a few posts since then, only one in 2016, and none in 2017).

I intended for Smash 4 to be the final game in the series I would do any speculation for. I have lost nearly all of my interest in speculation and anticipation for future Smash Bros. titles. Nearly every character I wanted in has gotten in, and the few left that I care for, have sub-50% prospect of getting in at this point (most notably and unfortunately, Ridley).

However, due to this Smash Bros. installment having a very small speculation window from its unveil (Brawl's unveil to release date was 1 year and nearly nine months, Smash 4 was a year and three months, and assuming Smash Switch does release in December 2018 at the latest, it will be only nine months). At this point (ignoring how long the DLC period is, assuming there is DLC), there are only eight months of speculation left.

I have been out of the loop for nearly three years now. However, there are a few that wish for me to come back and do some more analyses for this upcoming Smash Bros. Truth be told, I am not anticipating this Smash Bros. game like I did the previous four titles. There has been an interest for me to do a reprise of my ULTIMATE character analysis topic that I did for Brawl and Smash 4. I will do as much.

There are 23 series now do analyses for (Mario, Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Wario, Pikmin, Kid Icarus, Animal Crosssing, Wii Fit, Punch-Out, Mii, Xenoblade, Splatoon, Retro, New Series, and Third Party), so it will take a lot of time to get everything done (I did not even finish the analyses for Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and New Series for Smash 4 due to how much more busy I was). However, I plan to get out one new series analysis every week (which will give me the pacing necessary to gradually chip away at the meatier and more time consuming series to properly analyze).

I did not plan on returning, and in many ways, my return is like that of a phantom. I do not intend to be at the forefront of speculation this time around, and there are many others who have taken up that baton. Like Miyamoto's suggestion to Itoi for the re-start of Mother 3's development, my place on the speculation scene will be that of a small play. I hope that through me publishing yet another iteration of my analysis topic that it gives the speculation scene a sense of continuity and history (my first detailed analyses were made over a decade ago).

I hope that my analyses offer some sober and detailed insight into the prospects of characters many cherish and desire to make either a reprisal or a grand debut in what is likely to be the biggest Nintendo release of the year. I also appreciate if any of you would help provide materials such as polls or particular official developer statements regarding contenders for Smash Bros. for the Switch (Smash 5... or Smash 6?). I will post a list of "contenders" (characters with at least a 25% prospect of being in the next Smash Bros. according to my own personal assessments) either later tonight or tomorrow. Please feel free to to PM me with any materials or links that you feel would be integral to a character's analysis and overall assessment.

It is my hope and ambition to have most of my analyses done months before the next game's release, and updating analyses as new information comes accordingly.

I might drop in a few threads to put my two cents in. It was really the fact that Smash 5/6 ended up happening so soon after the end of Smash 4 DLC (two years after Bayonetta and Corrin were released), and that there is still some interest in my work that I returned to do analysis for this game in the series. Had the next Smash Bros. title had the same break between announcements as Brawl and Smash 4 had (Brawl was announced when Melee was 4.5 years old, and Smash 4 when Brawl was 5.5 years old), I would likely have not even had interest to do a reprisal of the ULTIMATE analysis topic.

Regardless, I hope I can offer some interesting insight and have a different presence this time around than I did when I speculated for Melee, Brawl, and Smash 4. I hope I can offer encouragement to other speculators and the fans of particular characters as well, and I see a lot of good work with the next generation of speculators during the twilight of Smash 4 (such as PushDustin's website). It is good to be back.

It's nice to see your stuff (I would like to see the Fire Emblem one) even if you return is just a "phantom-like".

 

[MrReyes96]

Animal Crossing is a curious one as Villager is based off the Wild World/City Folks version but most of the other in-game content is based off New Leaf.

I guess his scale and design was decided early on.

I think they’ll update his proportions to look like new leaf/mario kart 8

 

[Knight Dude]

Well "reps" or whatever else aside, I'd still like Paper Mario, since I think he could have some fun moves to pull from for a Smash game, even if Mario has basically all of the essential cast and really popular characters as it is.

Other than him, I wouldn't feel too strongly one way or the other about new Mario characters.

 

[Polan]

If we get a Zelda newcomer, I'm throwing my hat in the ring for Skull Kid. He's popular, MM3D sold well, and Majora's Mask continues to get cameos and nods in the series. Plus it would be a classic Sakurai curveball since everyone thinks that one-off Zelda characters are unlikely.

 

[Morbi]

Well "reps" or whatever else aside, I'd still like Paper Mario, since I think he could have some fun moves to pull from for a Smash game, even if Mario has basically all of the essential cast and really popular characters as it is.

Other than him, I wouldn't feel too strongly one way or the other about new Mario characters.

The only real problem I ever see regarding Paper Mario is "why a third Mario?" That is easily addressed with, "because he is the largest gaming icon of all time and arguably among the most iconic of fictional characters, period." However, I bet if there was a Paper Daisy, people would be all over that as it would address apparently the only problem they have with her which is that they cannot see a move-set? Or whatever.

If we get a Zelda newcomer, I'm throwing my hat in the ring for Skull Kid. He's popular, MM3D sold well, and Majora's Mask continues to get cameos and nods in the series. Plus it would be a classic Sakurai curveball since everyone thinks that one-off Zelda characters are unlikely.

Maybe if I wanted to get rid of an old hat. I would not throw any valuable hats in the ring with a prediction like that.

 

[Arcadenik]

Animal Crossing is a curious one as Villager is based off the Wild World/City Folks version but most of the other in-game content is based off New Leaf.

I guess his scale and design was decided early on.

I really would love to see new Animal Crossings stages... one based on Happy Home Designer and one based on Pocket Camp.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

If we get a Zelda newcomer, I'm throwing my hat in the ring for Skull Kid. He's popular, MM3D sold well, and Majora's Mask continues to get cameos and nods in the series. Plus it would be a classic Sakurai curveball since everyone thinks that one-off Zelda characters are unlikely.

You know what, this is probably a decent bet. He's been an assist trophy, the remake of his game came out the year before Smash5 development started, and Hyrule Warriors shows a continued fanbase.

 

[Knight Dude]

So, aside from a character, what kind of ARMS stuff would you guys want to see? I'm sure a stage would probably be made, but which one, I don't know.

I think those health canisters could make for a good item choice, seeing as it was built for an arena based fighter. And it would cause people to probably fight over it/stage control. Anyone else thinking that?

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

So, aside from a character, what kind of ARMS stuff would you guys want to see? I'm sure a stage would probably be made, but which one, I don't know.

I think those health canisters could make for a good item choice, seeing as it was built for an arena based fighter. And it would cause people to probably fight over it/stage control. Anyone else thinking that?

I think Snake Park could actually be a ton of fun in Smash.

 

[Morbi]

You know what, this is probably a decent bet. He's been an assist trophy, the remake of his game came out the year before Smash5 development started, and Hyrule Warriors shows a continued fanbase.

I wish, not even for Skull Kid, but just for the potential of Young Link (or maybe even Masked Link, my dream character) to return. None of this "Toon" nonsense. That being said, a lot of one-off characters had ideal timing in their favor and yet, here we are.

 

[CroonerMike]

Anyone listen to Source Gaming's podcast about Smash Bros Switch's development timeline? Gives a decent insight to what characters he could of picked for this time around. Now I definitely don't expect an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 character.

 

[Morbi]

Anyone listen to Source Gaming's podcast about Smash Bros Switch's development timeline? Gives a decent insight to what characters he could of picked for this time around. Now I definitely don't expect an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 character.

I, personally, believe they more or less had to adopt a more fluid roster finalization process given the timing of everything. It is entirely possible that he is just going to use the characters he missed last time and ballot results while saving all of the Switch characters for DLC. But for Smash Switch, that obviously does not make a lot of sense. Pretty sure that is outdated precedent that will shortly be confirmed as such.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Anyone listen to Source Gaming's podcast about Smash Bros Switch's development timeline? Gives a decent insight to what characters he could of picked for this time around. Now I definitely don't expect an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 character.

I'd expect whatever was big around 2016 to be in the game as playable characters, meaning we'll get an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 character as an assist trophy at best, at worst just a standard trophy.

I'm fully expecting characters that were assist trophies AND got Mii Fighter costumes to get in, honestly.

 

[Cosmic77]

Lots of posts I want to respond to.

On a separate note, I find it interesting that everybody insists on all these new games getting a character. Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey are the two prime examples.

Why does each game need a new character? I would like that explained to me, because to be completely honest i’m struggling to find a reason for that to be the case. Both games are successful, yes, but there are other ways to show those games love. I can already visualize a stage from BOTW, or a stage where we take a trip on the Odyssey to each new world from the game.

Shoehorning a moveset for Pauline is a mistake, and frankly seems like a silly idea. The only reason anybody wants Pauline or the Champions is because “muh rep” of the game. That, in itself, is not a good idea for a game that already has a wide selection of main characters.

Rosalina was picked because of the puppeteer idea. Pauline doesn’t really have that.

With the Champions, what makes one get picked over another? I’m not so sure, but I can definitely see their spirit power make their way into a reinvigorated moveset for Zelda in place of Din, Nayru, and Farore. I like all four of them, but I don’t know that any of the four should be playable.

There’s a difference between wanting a character for who they are, and wanting a character because they’re in a new game. Who they are and what they can do is what will get them in over other choices.

I for one always liked the idea of Tetra, but i’ve never liked the idea of getting Classic Ganon. At least i’ve never seen the reason to add another version of Ganon. But again, that’s just me.

I know you already clarified your stance on this in an earlier post, but I'm someone who's supporting both Pauline and the Champions. They have my support not just because they're from a popular game, but also because they're characters who I genuinely like who I think they could bring something unique and unexpected to the table if they were handled properly. Someone's already touched Pauline's musical moveset, but what if she had Smash attacks that included the accessories (umbrella purse, shoes) she lost in Donkey Kong? To get even crazier, what if she had attacks that were inspired by some of the transformation moves seen In Odyssey, like transforming into a taxi or a bullet bill?

I'm not saying these are the only characters from Mario and Zelda I support, but I do think people should give them more credit. I'm seeing people support the same characters that got passed over in Brawl and Smash 4 without acknowledging characters from newer games. These guys exist too, and unlike the other characters who have been skipped over and delegated to an Assist Trophies in previous games, this will be the first time they've had a genuine chance of making the roster.

Lots of people here haven't dismissed Spring Man or Rex/Pyra despite being new. Pauline and the Champions shouldn't be dismissed either.

I recognize the possibility, but I still don't like it. Zelda is still associated with the goddesses in BotW, even if she gets the BotW redesign, I'd like her to keep her goddess powers.

Honestly, making the Champions part of Link or Zelda's moveset is going to cause the same problems, if not more, as if they were playable. It might work now to incorporate a Champion into BotW Link and Zelda, but what's going to happen in the next Smash game if Sakurai uses a different Link and Zelda? Is Revali's Gale going to work well with a Link who comes from a game that doesn't even mention Revali?

In the end, we'll have a completely outdated and unfitting moveset that would need to be changed again.

Well "reps" or whatever else aside, I'd still like Paper Mario, since I think he could have some fun moves to pull from for a Smash game, even if Mario has basically all of the essential cast and really popular characters as it is.

The Paper Mario series is in a pretty trashy state right now, but I do have a lot of good memories of the character. Hopefully, if he does get in Smash, Sakurai will include at least a few moves from the first three games.

You know what, this is probably a decent bet. He's been an assist trophy, the remake of his game came out the year before Smash5 development started, and Hyrule Warriors shows a continued fanbase.

Honestly, Hyrule Warriors can be used in favor of nearly every popular Zelda character requested for Smash. Impa, Skull Kid, Midna, Tingle, Girahim - it's hard to make a case for any of these guys when there's not much separating them from the rest of the characters in this game.

Ironically, this is the same problem the Champions have.

 

[Troykv]

I'd expect whatever was big around 2016 to be in the game as playable characters, meaning we'll get an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 character as an assist trophy at best, at worst just a standard trophy.

I'm fully expecting characters that were assist trophies AND got Mii Fighter costumes to get in, honestly.

2014-2016 period is a bit too barren... right?

This would be actually a good thing for popular legacy characters to get their chance in Smash Bros.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

2014-2016 period is a bit too barren... right?

This would be actually a good thing for popular legacy characters to get their chance in Smash Bros.

Yep, so you know what that means...

#FreeWolf

Also, K. Rool, Ashley, Isabelle and Takamaru confirmed for Smash Switch

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I don’t get too active in discussion here as it moves way too fast for my taste but what’s the beef about adding an ARMs character? Never played it but Spring Man seems like a great addition to the roster. Why is there an ongoing discussion about him being playable/ARMs representation? Adding him into the roster seems almost a given IMO but why do some thing he can’t be included (or any other ARMs character)?

 

[Honest Slug]

If Smash 5 was planned out around 2016 that'd be a good thing for me since Paper Mario had a game and a cross-over appearance that year. Paper Mario would at least be in Sakurai's mind.

 

[Arcadenik]

Yep, so you know what that means...

#FreeWolf

Also, K. Rool, Ashley Isabelle and Takamaru confirmed for Smash Switch

And Toad too. He had a Mii costume.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

And Toad too. He had a Mii costume.

True, but Ashley, Isabelle and Takamaru are assist trophies and have Mii costumes.

I don't see Toad having a assist trophy anywhere...

Also K.Rool was for the meme, I would've added Ridley too, but nah.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I don’t get too active in discussion here as it moves way too fast for my taste but what’s the beef about adding an ARMs character? Never played it but Spring Man seems like a great addition to the roster. Why is there an ongoing discussion about him being playable/ARMs representation? Adding him into the roster seems almost a given IMO but why do some thing he can’t be included (or any other ARMs character)?

It has more to do with timing than people actively not wanting an ARMS character. The game sort of happened at an awkward time that may have been too late to be included in Smash, but it's sort of hard to tell since we don't know what exactly Sakurai knew when Smash Switch started development. Another important point is the ARMS producer saying ARMS might be "too young" to be considered for Smash at the moment.

 

[Hinata]

I don’t get too active in discussion here as it moves way too fast for my taste but what’s the beef about adding an ARMs character? Never played it but Spring Man seems like a great addition to the roster. Why is there an ongoing discussion about him being playable/ARMs representation? Adding him into the roster seems almost a given IMO but why do some thing he can’t be included (or any other ARMs character)?

People think that Smash Switch started development too early for any ARMS character to be added.

 

[Knight Dude]

I don’t get too active in discussion here as it moves way too fast for my taste but what’s the beef about adding an ARMs character? Never played it but Spring Man seems like a great addition to the roster. Why is there an ongoing discussion about him being playable/ARMs representation? Adding him into the roster seems almost a given IMO but why do some thing he can’t be included (or any other ARMs character)?

It just boils down to whether or not people believe the game came out too soon for Spring Man to be included while Smash was/is being developed.

I personally don't care either way, I just think Spring Man is cool, and I'd like to see the melee zoning of ARMS translate into a game where that's not everyone's go to power.

Also, I guess they could pick someone other than Spring Man, but if it isn't him or Ribbon girl, that's kind of weird. That'd be like taking Black Shadow or The Skull before Captain Falcon.

 

[Morbi]

I don’t get too active in discussion here as it moves way too fast for my taste but what’s the beef about adding an ARMs character? Never played it but Spring Man seems like a great addition to the roster. Why is there an ongoing discussion about him being playable/ARMs representation? Adding him into the roster seems almost a given IMO but why do some thing he can’t be included (or any other ARMs character)?

Recently, the creative director, I assume, asserted that Arms was perhaps too young to have a character in Smash. A lot of people cite Sakurai deciding the roster years before the game actually comes out from Smash for 3DS/Wii U and apply it to this game with the assumption that Arms released too late to be considered for the base roster.

Beyond that, it seems as though a lot of people just dislike Spring Man or Ribbon Girl who are the faces of the series and prefer some of the more creative designs. So, in my opinion, they let their bias run a little too rampant as I agree with your sentiment, Arms representation is fairly given. If it is true, and it is too late, that just means we get them for DLC. But what do I know (besides everything)?

 

[ColietheGoalie]

I'm wondering, are people just assuming DLC will work differently this time?

Everyone is saying about characters that "if they don't make the base roster they're a shoe-in for DLC", but it didn't work like that at all last time.

What we got was:
(3) Returning Veterans
(3) Third-Party "Excitement Builders"
(1) New Game Tie-In

We didn't get a bunch of Nintendo all-stars that had been missed. There was no K. Rool or Ridley, no Mario reps.

What leads people to believe that these characters that are missed/passed over/too new won't be left for the next version, exactly like the Inklings were?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I find it really interesting that we all seem to agree its time for a Zelda newcomer but we can't agree on who it is...

 

[Hinata]

I find it really interesting that we all seem to agree its time for a Zelda newcomer but we can't agree on who it is...

Way too many to choose from, considering we haven't gotten a non-clone Zelda newcomer since Melee.

 

[Cosmic77]

I find it really interesting that we all seem to agree its time for a Zelda newcomer but we can't agree on who it is...

Sadly, I don't even think we could all agree that it's time for Zelda to get a newcomer. Been seeing quite a few "We don't need anymore Zelda characters."

 

[BluePikmin11]

I think of Classic Ganon as a top Zelda newcomer contender, but for whatever reason, I find the idea so unlikely, but I cannot pinpoint the reason. I know the idea might be hard to discover for Sakurai, but it is more than just that I feel.

 

[Knight Dude]

I think Snake Park could actually be a ton of fun in Smash.

That sounds like a good idea.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

To stray away from the topics we've been stuck on...

I think Chibi Robo will be a playable character in this game, regardless of the garbage that happened to be Zip Lash. Nintendo was heavily advertising Zip Lash, significantly more so than any other Chibi Robo game. They wanted Chibi Robo to succeed, but didn't necessarily give him the proper chance. But due to the timing of Zip Lash, I think it's fairly possible that Nintendo wanted Sakurai to incorporate him in the game. Out of all those mid-2000's characters that died off, Nintendo kept Chibi Robo around for whatever reason, and even attempted to give him a chance in the limelight in 2015.

Aside from the advertisement, Chibi Robo has been around for over 10 years now. He has tons of creative possibilities from the numerous things he does in his games, and now with Zip Lash, he even has more fighting options than just using his tools. Obviously he'd use his plug if he had gotten into Smash before, but now fighting with the plug is canon.

I could see Chibi Robo becoming the next character who is added to Smash, and winds up being known more for his Smash appearance than his games. And if he is added to Smash and is received decently well, perhaps Nintendo will be willing to fork over the funds to Chibi Robo's developers studio who have stated that they want to make another full blown adventure game for Chibi Robo, because that's where he really shines as a character.

What are some other peoples thoughts on Chibi Robo?

 

[Inawordyes]

To stray away from the topics we've been stuck on...

I think Chibi Robo will be a playable character in this game, regardless of the garbage that happened to be Zip Lash. Nintendo was heavily advertising Zip Lash, significantly more so than any other Chibi Robo game. They wanted Chibi Robo to succeed, but didn't necessarily give him the proper chance. But due to the timing of Zip Lash, I think it's fairly possible that Nintendo wanted Sakurai to incorporate him in the game. Out of all those mid-2000's characters that died off, Nintendo kept Chibi Robo around for whatever reason, and even attempted to give him a chance in the limelight in 2015.

Aside from the advertisement, Chibi Robo has been around for over 10 years now. He has tons of creative possibilities from the numerous things he does in his games, and now with Zip Lash, he even has more fighting options than just using his tools. Obviously he'd use his plug if he had gotten into Smash before, but now fighting with the plug is canon.

I could see Chibi Robo becoming the next character who is added to Smash, and winds up being known more for his Smash appearance than his games. And if he is added to Smash and is received decently well, perhaps Nintendo will be willing to fork over the funds to Chibi Robo's developers studio who have stated that they want to make another full blown adventure game for Chibi Robo, because that's where he really shines as a character.

What are some other peoples thoughts on Chibi Robo?

Don't forget the random on-fire Chibi-Robo that Nintendo posted on their Twitter out of nowhere, and for no real reason, during the lead-up to I think it was the mini-Direct, when everybody was losing their minds waiting for it to be official announced. There wasn't really a reason to create a brand new Chibi-Robo render or use it to troll the waiting fans, and the fire imagery + the fact that fire was a big thing with the reveal trailer could be more than a cooincidence.

 

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To stray away from the topics we've been stuck on...

I think Chibi Robo will be a playable character in this game, regardless of the garbage that happened to be Zip Lash. Nintendo was heavily advertising Zip Lash, significantly more so than any other Chibi Robo game. They wanted Chibi Robo to succeed, but didn't necessarily give him the proper chance. But due to the timing of Zip Lash, I think it's fairly possible that Nintendo wanted Sakurai to incorporate him in the game. Out of all those mid-2000's characters that died off, Nintendo kept Chibi Robo around for whatever reason, and even attempted to give him a chance in the limelight in 2015.

Aside from the advertisement, Chibi Robo has been around for over 10 years now. He has tons of creative possibilities from the numerous things he does in his games, and now with Zip Lash, he even has more fighting options than just using his tools. Obviously he'd use his plug if he had gotten into Smash before, but now fighting with the plug is canon.

I could see Chibi Robo becoming the next character who is added to Smash, and winds up being known more for his Smash appearance than his games. And if he is added to Smash and is received decently well, perhaps Nintendo will be willing to fork over the funds to Chibi Robo's developers studio who have stated that they want to make another full blown adventure game for Chibi Robo, because that's where he really shines as a character.

What are some other peoples thoughts on Chibi Robo?

I could see it happening. I played a demo of his game a long time ago, so I'm not too attached to the character or anything like that. But I have seen in one of the fan games, he's got some neat tricks.