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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Nekoo

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I just got back from The Grinch and holy ****, the trailer was mind blowing. Here I am watching the Grinch steal Christmas, and then the screen cuts. We see the Smash mural. It zoomed in on Snake, and his shadow disappeared. It then zoomed in on Ken and his artwork CHANGED. It paned over to Incineroar, and he's GONE. A few seconds later, and 6 new characters are added to the scene rapid fire. SHADOW, GENO, BANJO, CHORUS KIDS, MACH RIDER, AND ISAAC ARE IN. At this point I'm losing my ****. We start to see some gameplay, but then the scene cuts out abruptly and the Grinch steals the TV the scene was playing on. The movie continued afterward with no mention of Smash. I checked the website just to make sure I wasn't going crazy, and everything's as it should be. Incineroar's still in, and Ken's artwork is the official art. HOWEVER, I noticed something odd. Little Mac has a few green pixels on his boots? Coincidence, or something more?
You truly hurt my soul Tougon...Why?
Why you must hurt me?

WHY?!
 
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KMDP

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Right here!

You know I mentioned I felt that they used the wrong part of You Say Run?

This is what I had in mind.
You Say Run
Base Trailer

Start the trailer (to allow the Switch logo to pass), then start You Say Run from the timestamp I gave it.

It's hype.

If you got it right, the music should swell as it's zooming into Mario, and reach the main melody as Charizard comes out.

Unfortunately for those on mobile, I'm unable to show you such awesomeness; you'll just have to take my word for it.
 

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I wish Incineroar's recovery was better, i'm gonna have to try really hard not to get launched off the stage.
His death is gonna be his bad speed. Slow characters generally aren't very good. His moves are great, but just like with Ganon, good moves don't make you good if your mobility is bad
 

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His death is gonna be his bad speed. Slow characters generally aren't very good. His moves are great, but just like with Ganon, good moves don't make you good if your mobility is bad
Good thing I don't play competitive.
If it's just me and my friend I should be fine.
r-right?
 
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From a business perspective, I think it makes sense.

I feel like, as a business, Nintendo wants to reward companies who are publishing on their highly successful console with a character from an IP that's actually on the console, because it continues to bring in money for both companies.

As examples:
"Sora joins Smash" -> Ninty and Square make money off of the DLC -> new Sora fans want to play a KH game -> buys the game and PS4/Xbox to play it -> Square and Sony/Microsoft make money

instead of

"Noctis/Neku/etc joins Smash" -> Ninty and Square make money off of the DLC -> new fans want to play their games -> buys the game on Switch -> Square and Ninty make more money
One thing to remember is that Nintendo doesn't usually promote other companies in their games. Nintendo will advertise games as a console manufacturer but they rarely add content from those games into their's. In fact, any time Nintendo characters crossover with other game characters, it's almost always because another company made it.

I think the "reward" this is something in fan's heads but Nintendo (and other companies) don't think this way.
 

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I'm actually surprised that :ultkrool: seems to be really good.
His only real weakness seems to be how easy it is to edgegaurd his up B and his massive hitbox. Other than that he has a lot of really good options, it's genuinely shocking coming from a heavy. The best heavy we had in Sm4sh was Bowser and that was only because of his Up throw to Upair combo.
 

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I'm actually surprised that :ultkrool: seems to be really good.
Yeah. Heavys seem really hard to make work but K. Rool seems to be really well designed.

Solid recovery, hard to kill, counters for combos, projectiles, command grab and lots of armor

Literally a tank. I guess that makes sense because crocodiles are basically tanks in animal form.
 

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The idea that there's no priority among the characters in terms of promotion. You'd think that Robin, Dark Pit and even Jigglypuff would be as likely to be in that trailer as Mario, Link and Pikachu?
Oh, I thought you were referring to the character trailers, where who's in relies on two factors.

1. Who makes sense (DK in K Rool's, Samus in Ridley's, Little Mac in Incineroar's)
2. Whoever Sakurai likes (Mega Man and Mario in Ridley's, Dedede in K Rool's)
 

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This is late, but...

You.

I like you.
Lets be real though, if they asked Yoko Taro he'd pause and think of this as the trailer.

Pod 042: Thank you for viewing the Nier: Automata DLC trailer for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

Pod 042: Please be warned, that this trailer may betray your expectations. Do you wish to view this?

[Yes]

Pod 042: The character you want, might not be shown. Knowing this, do you wish to continue?

[Yes]

Pod 042: Very well. Without further ado, we shall reveal the DLC character, for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

 

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The idea that there's no priority among the characters in terms of promotion. You'd think that Robin, Dark Pit and even Jigglypuff would be as likely to be in that trailer as Mario, Link and Pikachu?
So you're saying Yoshi is more like Dark Pit than Pikachu?
 

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Good thing I don't play competitive.
If it's just me and my friend I should be fine.
r-right?
Have this homemade meme to make you feels better.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Just follow Chrom's advice and you'll be fine.
 

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Oh, I thought you were referring to the character trailers, where who's in relies on two factors.

1. Who makes sense (DK in K Rool's, Samus in Ridley's, Little Mac in Incineroar's)
2. Whoever Sakurai likes (Mega Man and Mario in Ridley's, Dedede in K Rool's)
I'm glad you got it...

So you're saying Yoshi is more like Dark Pit than Pikachu?
I'm questioning why my boi doesn't seem to be a higher priority in Smash promotion than he is
 

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TWEWY music please I beg you. Give me Calling, give me Twister, give me Detonation.
Calling ESPECIALLY. God DAMN I love that song.

Lets be real though, if they asked Yoko Taro he'd pause and think of this as the trailer.

Pod 042: Thank you for viewing the Nier: Automata DLC trailer for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

Pod 042: Please be warned, that this trailer may betray your expectations. Do you wish to view this?

[Yes]

Pod 042: The character you want, might not be shown. Knowing this, do you wish to continue?

[Yes]

Pod 042: Very well. Without further ado, we shall reveal the DLC character, for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, for the Nintendo Switch.

This would be hilarious and a great callback to the game itself.

Oh by the way, I mentioned Nier songs before, here are a few. If you haven't played the game, DON'T LOOK AT THE COMMENTS.

For me.

Please. Don't let this amazing game get spoiled for you.

 
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Why does it matter that Yoshi isn't in a trailer? It's a ****ing commercial.
 
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