Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

How Crash Bandicoot entered Smash after the invitation:

He was doing a speed run of a bike level looking for a platinum relic, when Coco calls him in the middle of the route to advice the boy about being in Smash. Quickly, and with a huge smile, he pushes a buttom on the bike to create a warp portal, and pulls a Back To The Future with the bike.

When he arrives, he does an Akira with the bike, gets off of it, puts the sunglasses on his pocket and finally sees Sakurai and some of the fighters looking shocked with their mouths open since he arrived faster than anybody expected him to do so.

 

[osby]

I love the fact that World of Light has you actually go through Video Game worlds, that was one of my issues with Subspace.
Sure it's an overworld and not actual platforming levels but it's better than nothing.

I think overworld is still original, however with significantly more references.

 

[Pyra]

I love the fact that World of Light has you actually go through Video Game worlds, that was one of my issues with Subspace.
Sure it's an overworld and not actual platforming levels but it's better than nothing.

honestly i kinda like it how it is
i'm pretty excited for it.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm sorry
but why is no one (aside from MSmariosonic ) talking about

Spoiler: my top-quality waifus

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I was wondering this myself, and after a quick google search I came to the conclusion that this sadly amounts to nothing. Apparently, at the beginning of the World of Light trailer, the Blue Falcon had an emblem on its right side that people thought was new and possibly a hint at a new F-Zero game; however, it has been part of its design sind Melee.

Which is a damn shame, 'cause god knows we need a new F-Zero.

Edit: Typo

People were actually paying attention to the inside of the cabin, not the outside. We honestly have no idea what else the rumored mini-direct will talk about outside of PLG and the also rumored N64 Mini, so F-Zero might be one of these (or the Star Fox Grand Prix thing).

Although it does speak a lot about the Switch's success when it still moves units in Japan even when there's not many Nintendo games coming out right now, so I guess there isn't much to worry about. The silence is deafening, though.

 

[Deleted member]

I was wondering this myself, and after a quick google search I came to the conclusion that this sadly amounts to nothing. Apparently, at the beginning of the World of Light trailer, the Blue Falcon had an emblem on its right side that people thought was new and possibly a hint at a new F-Zero game; however, it has been part of its design since Melee.

Which is a damn shame, 'cause god knows we need a new F-Zero.

Edit: Typo

No.

The logo is the same, but a lot of stuff changed. One user here told every change visible pretty well.

Look in my profile for a post where i quote that.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

I love the fact that World of Light has you actually go through Video Game worlds, that was one of my issues with Subspace.
Sure it's an overworld and not actual platforming levels but it's better than nothing.

Baffles me that the only location from another world that we visit is Halberd.
What the hell was that Zoo area Lucas was in, why was Porky there????? AHHH IT MAKES NO SENSE

 

[Noipoi]

How did Smash as a thing even start in-universe? IRL (or irl in-game I guess) they’re supposed to be dolls, but consider the animal crossing trailers it’s clear that the character actually are straight-up the characters from their respective games. What do they see master hand as then?

(also hey I got an avatar neat)

As a child, Master Hand and some other hands got into an argument over who would win on the playground.
The other hands let it go, but Master Hand's spite is endless. He devoted his life to creating 1-1 replicas of the most famous video game characters. And Corrin. And placed them in a world of his making so he could see, once and for all, who would win.

 

[beans]

As a projectile?

No, unless there's some deep Tekken lore I don't know about

Fast Question:
In the depp tekken lore, is Akuma canon buddies with Heihachi's wife?
Did she put him as a godfather?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Fat question for you does Heiachi shoot lightning?

Trying to think of a set for him.

I think if Namco is getting someone he's more likely than Lyold though both are in the lead.

Gil is trying but he might be too slow.

He has the Electric Wind God Fist, but it just wraps him in lightning rather than shooting it at the enemy.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

As a child, Master Hand and some other hands got into an argument over who would win on the playground.
The other hands let it go, but Master Hand's spite is endless. He devoted his life to creating 1-1 replicas of the most famous video game characters. And Corrin. And placed them in a world of his making so he could see, once and for all, who would win.

And then he taught them how to wavedash and suddenly he only ever saw five of them again.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Fast Question:
In the depp tekken lore, is Akuma canon buddies with Heihachi's wife?
Did she put him as a godfather?

I don't think even Katsuhiro Harada knows that

The Akuma in Tekken is either way not the same Akuma from SF due to contradictions

 

[Noipoi]

I think overworld is still original, however with significantly more references.

I think it's supposed to tie into the stages. Lumiose City ties into Prism Tower, Sonic Land ties into Green Hill Zone, etc.

honestly i kinda like it how it is
i'm pretty excited for it.

It's gonna be so hype, dude.

 

[PsySmasher]

What does K. Rool drive, though?

He drives a Mercedes GLA (Mario Kart 8 Style).
Shocking right?
Until you realize he stole Waluigi's car.

 

[Deleted member]

See you guys tomorrow! :3
(pls talk about my top quality waifus)

 

[Diem]

What does K. Rool drive, though?

Interior crocodile alligator, he drives a Chevrolet Movie Theater.

-Dark Samus is just kinda there standing on the corner. No one knows who invited her or how she got there, all they know is that one day they noticed her and now everyone is too afraid too even ask because it doesn't seem like she's even alive.

Yep, that sounds about right. Perhaps they mistook her for Samus for a while until they noticed that they were separate entities. Wonder how that kind of misunderstanding would play out.

Dark Samus got resurrected by Dracula but severely weakened and sent her to Smash cause he wants to **** around with the Belmonts

I'd buy Dark Samus being resurrected by Dracula just to mess with people. He needs all the help he can get, fighting two Belmonts plus 72 other characters.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

How did Smash as a thing even start in-universe? IRL (or irl in-game I guess) they’re supposed to be dolls, but consider the animal crossing trailers it’s clear that the character actually are straight-up the characters from their respective games. What do they see master hand as then?

(also hey I got an avatar neat)

Master Hand is the kid playing with them or something, but the characters see him as an all powerful being and should they anger him, he will personally come down from the sky to kill them or something idk

 

[osby]

How did Smash as a thing even start in-universe? IRL (or irl in-game I guess) they’re supposed to be dolls, but consider the animal crossing trailers it’s clear that the character actually are straight-up the characters from their respective games. What do they see master hand as then?

(also hey I got an avatar neat)

I personally think they are not the actual characters but Master Hand pretends they are. That's why their invitations are inconsistent.

 

[Dee Dude]

How did Smash as a thing even start in-universe? IRL (or irl in-game I guess) they’re supposed to be dolls, but consider the animal crossing trailers it’s clear that the character actually are straight-up the characters from their respective games. What do they see master hand as then?

(also hey I got an avatar neat)

Mario kicked Yoshi.

 

[Deleted member]

As a child, Master Hand and some other hands got into an argument over who would win on the playground.
The other hands let it go, but Master Hand's spite is endless. He devoted his life to creating 1-1 replicas of the most famous video game characters. And Corrin. And placed them in a world of his making so he could see, once and for all, who would win.

So the characters in smash aren’t actually the characters from their respective games, but puppets elaborately designed to have the memories of their actual counterparts. That’s kinda ****ed up if you think about it.
Still doesn’t explain the trailers for the Animal Crossing characters though.

 

[Pakky]

He has the Electric Wind God Fist, but it just wraps him in lightning rather than shooting it at the enemy.

Forces fields huh?

That would be great we really don't have any of that as far as I know.

So hmm in standard play would he be similar to Ryu without projectiles?

 

[Donavitch]

People were actually paying attention to the inside of the cabin, not the outside. We honestly have no idea what else the rumored mini-direct will talk about outside of PLG and the also rumored N64 Mini, so F-Zero might be one of these (or the Star Fox Grand Prix thing).

No.

The logo is the same, but a lot of stuff changed. One user here told every change visible pretty well.

Look in my profile for a post where i quote that.

Welp, guess I was wrong. (Thanks for the info!)

But if this means a new F-Zero might be still in the cards, that's fine with me!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm sorry
but why is no one (aside from MSmariosonic ) talking about

Spoiler: my top-quality waifus

Honestly, only two of those are humanoid, and even then are too pure to lewd. Not judging, though. Embarrass

Fat question for you does Heiachi shoot lightning?

Trying to think of a set for him.

I think if Namco is getting someone he's more likely than Lyold though both are in the lead.

Gil is trying but he might be too slow.

I wonder if the issue is that everyone expects fighting game characters from Namco to be in, but Sakurai is unsure how to implement them while still keeping them able to stand out from the rest of the cast.

I love the fact that World of Light has you actually go through Video Game worlds, that was one of my issues with Subspace.
Sure it's an overworld and not actual platforming levels but it's better than nothing.

I don't mind it, it reminds me of Treasure games in that sense.

Watch me accidentally predict Saki in this manner.

 

[Noipoi]

See you guys tomorrow! :3
(pls talk about my top quality waifus)

They're animals.
A lot of them aren't even anthro.
I'm not judging, it's just not my thing.

They're pretty cute though.

So the characters in smash aren’t actually the characters from their respective games, but puppets elaborately designed to have the memories of their actual counterparts. That’s kinda ****ed up if you think about it.

Yeah, kinda.

 

[Deleted member]

It's fake, I found a google image search and found a twitter page that shows this exact image from a tweet posted in 2016



Anyways let's talk about the Blue Falcon again...

I thought that the emblems were new... but they weren't...

However...

There is something completely different about it that as far as I looked... I can never find anything prior to it.
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The interiors are completely different.

Besides the ware and tear of the Blue Falcon and the hinges and rods holding the glass in place. Everything about this entire interior is different. Blue things on the sides, a COMPLETELY different Chair, and a small black box on the grey box. The grey box also has vent ports as well. So I wonder if this is another Smash redesign or if its actually a real hint at something bigger? I hope the latter

This is the post that lists every visible change on the Blue Falcon.

 

[RandomAce]

I'm sorry
but why is no one (aside from MSmariosonic ) talking about

Spoiler: my top-quality waifus

They’re composed of young female animals from cartoon shows that are aimed for little girls.

I’m worried...

 

[Deleted member]

Apparently yes? I dunno really
Also people

Spoiler: Look at my top-quality waifus

Samus, with her power suit destroyed, panting and dragging Ridley's body by his tail: "WHO THE **** INVITED RIDLEY!?"
Kirby, eating a cake on the other side of the room: "POYO!"
Samus, smiling because she could never get mad at Kirby: "You're forgiven, sweetie..."

WAIT NO I JUST REALIZED THIS IS BAD BECAUSE SAMUS SAYS THE F WORD NEAR KIRBY WHAT HAVE I DONE

I don't know what's better, Kirby being such a saint Samus no longer gets mad at the source of her PTSD or the vampire trivia you included about Dracula holy **** that's good

Simon, knocking on Castlevania with his cloak :"Hey, hey Dracula, look at me."
Dracula, opening the entrance in the most dramatic way possible unaware Simon has just joined Smash: "What is it? Who is this?"
Simon, taking off the cloak: "*****"

Yep, that sounds about right. Perhaps they mistook her for Samus for a while until they noticed that they were separate entities. Wonder how that kind of misunderstanding would play out.

Fox, patting Dark Samus on the back: "Oh hey Samus, how's it going?"
Dark Samus, starting to glow and staring into Fox's soul: "..."
Fox, immediatelly gtfo: "Bad day, huh? I see, don't worry, I'll leave you alone, please don't hurt me."

 

[Tako Tuesday]

honestly i kinda like it how it is
i'm pretty excited for it.

I enjoyed Subspace, platform levels and all and it still holds a special place in my heart. However, I don't think we need a Subspace 2. I like that they're going in a different direction with WoL and I'm excited to see what they do with it.

To clarify, I would absolutely be down for a Subspace 2, but it's obviously unreasonable to expect that this time, especially considering they'd have to incorporate 70+ characters into one story.

 

[GoeGoe]

Fake or real, I don't care. I'm just so pleased that our mystical ninja is there.
and sitting next to the best robot in gaming

 

[PsySmasher]

How did Smash as a thing even start in-universe? IRL (or irl in-game I guess) they’re supposed to be dolls, but consider the animal crossing trailers it’s clear that the character actually are straight-up the characters from their respective games. What do they see master hand as then?

(also hey I got an avatar neat)

I have no idea man.

After the World of Light trailer with the army of Master Hands, I don't know what the **** Smash lore is supposed to be.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

#SmashBros #countdown has begun! So we are exactly 30 days away from release date so the waiting is going to be unbearable for some fans, right? :D pic.twitter.com/yFju3Q3wMH

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 7, 2018

Oh ****. We're 30 days out.

Like, I didn't even think about that.

LETS ****ING GO

 

[Diem]

Fox, patting Dark Samus on the back: "Oh hey Samus, how's it going?"
Dark Samus, starting to glow and staring into Fox's soul: "..."
Fox, immediatelly gtfo: "Bad day, huh? I see, don't worry, I'll leave you alone, please don't hurt me."

And that's why Samus had to get rid of her Dark Samus alt color, but Pit and other characters get to keep alt colors that are reminiscent of other fighters.

 

[A.G.L.]

Yeah, that last Fantastic Four movie was plain awful. We'll see, we'll see. But I'm going for a DQ rep.. time to lose again I suppose XD
I don't know, to me I don't think players interested in building games are similarly interested in fighting games, It really takes a different set of mind. Of course 90Mil. will have plenty of those but it just seems that's he's in for the sole sake of being in, which would be true if it happens. It's an advertisement call made by Nintendo (if it happens). Tried the game once and didn't like it, I don't think I'll like what represent it too. (I'm talking about Steve btw).

It's amazing to see how different people are. I've always said that no company surpasses Konami in the music field, though apparently that concerns the type I like. If we're talking epic here then yeah, Square is. I mean who can deny that Square-Enix are the RPG kings, and that definitely needs composer kings. Epic music is definitely needed in games, it's not the type that please me the most or seek. You remind me of a friend who approves only of epic music, my type doesn't work for him at all XD Though he's not into RPGs. My preferable genre is action-adventure.

If I to be realistic here, without a new game, Goemon's situation for a next itteration will most probably be much worse than Geno's current.

It's mostly their cleanliness, politeness and patience that strikes that awe to me.
Ohh! so a decendant of greats. I see where your masnners and taste come from. Italy and Spain specifically that.

Lol I sense a new bet is coming, DQ rep makes it in you win, Sora makes it in I win. I know that movie really was awful. Iv actually never played Minecraft so to be impartial I will stay neutral ha. Im not a huge game builder fan so I can see where you're coming from.

I do tend to prefer more epic music because I love hearing all the instruments in a more orchestral form. That being said I do like the type of music you like also. Hmmm you never know anything is possible, I wouldn't give up hope yet. Goemon could possibly make it in Smash 6 as the next representative of Konami, so keep your hopes up .

Yes I agree thats what appeals to me from Japan as well. Lol descendant of greats, im not sure if all my ancestors were great. Im sure some were, but I would just love exploring Madrid or Barcelona. Theres a stained glass room that I really want to see, its called Kimssoja's Room of Rainbows in Crystal Palace Buen Retiro Park,Madrid Spain. I recommend looking it up, it looks like something from the pages of a fairy tail book.

This a song from Bomberman 64 I think you'll like. By the way I hope this song gets added to the Wrecking Crew stage.

Or this one from Tales of Symphonia, called Fatalize

Final one, World 7 Space factory from Super Monkey Ball, this one would be super unique if they added it to Smash

 

[FalcoXP]

See you guys tomorrow! :3
(pls talk about my top quality waifus)

See ya dude.

And personally I prefer talk about the air.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Forces fields huh?

That would be great we really don't have any of that as far as I know.

So hmm in standard play would he be similar to Ryu without projectiles?

Depending on how they would implement the Tekken mechanics into Smash he might actually be more combo based than Ryu

 

[The_Naraotor]

Master Hand is the kid playing with them or something, but the characters see him as an all powerful being and should they anger him, he will personally come down from the sky to kill them or something idk

No Master Hands represent us playing with the character the player whatever he/she is kids adult or elder.

Also guys I thought of a worthy challenger for the DLC SAM mother****ing FISHER !

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Fake or real, I don't care. I'm just so pleased that our mystical ninja is there.
and sitting next to the best robot in gaming

Hmm, seems cool but I don't see it happening. Especially with all the rumors of an N64 mini being in development. Looks awsome though.

 

[KingofKoopas]

No Master Hands represent us playing with the character the player whatever he/she is kids adult or elder.

Also guys I thought of a worthy challenger for the DLC SAM mother****ing FISHER !

Well first ubisoft would need to acknowledge that series exist in a form more than just a DLC mission for Ghost Recon..

 

[Pyra]

See you guys tomorrow! :3
(pls talk about my top quality waifus)

this reminds me of Jeb Bush's "Please clap..."

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I do tend to prefer more epic music because I love hearing all the instruments in a more orchestral form. That being said I do like the type of music you like also. Hmmm you never know anything is possible, I wouldn't give up hope yet. Goemon could possibly make it in Smash 6 as the next representative of Konami, so keep your hopes up .

Seeing as how , and are in, it'd be damn cool if people rallied up for Goemon to be the next big Konami newcomer.

Well, besides Bomberman, but he's seen as "Hudson" in many people's minds.

No Master Hands represent us playing with the character the player whatever he/she is kids adult or elder.

Also guys I thought of a worthy challenger for the DLC SAM mother****ing FISHER !

Only problem is, Tom Clancy would need to be paid the royalties to use him.