Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[lightdrago]

Who's that? Do you have any more info on this?

what in the name of sakurai is a byleth

The new protag of FE: Three Hourses, though I don't know where he heard he was DLC...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Who's that? Do you have any more info on this?

All I know is someone on the Bandana Dee thread said that.

 

[XLIFE]

Do you remember that scene in Shrek where Shrek compared ogres to onions and subsequently shot down Donkey's comparison of orges to cake? While there are some parts of your comparison that are true, the comparison as a whole fails when you consider all the implications. Orges are not like cake because not everyone likes cake. Banjo is not like spiderman because even casual fans and younger fans knew who spiderman was and wanted him to interact with their other favorite heroes.

I don't do the neverending internet semantics arguments anymore. You do you elsewhere, man.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Who's that? Do you have any more info on this?

I looked him up, and well, apparently he's a figure in... Demonology.

What the ****?

 

[Ivander]

Lord of a Dead Empire is in Smash

(Can't hear it but it's the song name)

Believe it or not, I can actually hear it, but barely, even with the people talking. And it's directly from the 3DS version.

 

[Luigi The President]

Does anyone know what WFT is trying to do in the trailer when she gets attacked by those beams?

Guys...

It's her trying to activate her Final Smash.

 

[Will]

I actually think his chances are more likely than ever.
"Minecraft content" now has a above-average chance to be a Mii costume or some music or even a Spirit which comes alongside Banjo's foray in as DLC.

And so does the exact opposite, what's your point? One is not more likely than the other, you're painting a facade.

 

[Androobie]

Does anyone know what WFT is trying to do in the trailer when she gets attacked by those beams?

Pretty sure she was trying to use her final smash.

 

[Kuon]

Who exatcly is Katalina ? I'd like to heard about her if someone call fill me in.

Glad you asked! She is one of the main characters (the main 'unit') in a Japanese mobile game called Granblue Fantasy, and she seems to be the main character in the upcoming Granblue Fantasy game. Nintendo and Cygames, the developer of Granblue Fantasy, have apparently developed a partnership with one another and there might be talks of trying to get her in as DLC for Smash

 

[ErenJager]

Does anyone know what WFT is trying to do in the trailer when she gets attacked by those beams?

She died as she lived, doing yoga.
If youre going to die, you may as well go out enjoying what you do.
She had an ego death and accepted her fate.

 

[beans]

Who exatcly is Katalina ? I'd like to heard about her if someone call fill me in.

She is from Granblue, a gacha game from Japan

 

[KMDP]

I hate the whole "relevancy" BS, which basically boils down to "X character hasn't been in a game for 10 years and, Piranha Plant and Y 3rd party character have, therefore both are better picks than X." Someone I know keeps saying "I don't want Isaac in the game because no-one played Golden Sun, gimme Minecraft Steve or 2B." He mains Marth and Cloud and yet neither has played nor has any intention of playing either of their games. This to me highlights the mindset of people who play Smash but not many other Nintendo games. You'd think sales and release dates would be the driving factors for how a character is received by the general public, but in the end, if the character is fun, they don't actually care who they are. So then why not try to use the roster to paint an accurate picture of Nintendo history? Isaac has had three critically lauded games (something you could argue Star Fox has not), just because the last one came out over 10 years ago doesn't change that, and therefore I think he deserves his place. Honestly, no matter what arguments I hear, I still don't think Piranha Plant was a good choice. I feel we already had a NSMB rep in Bowser Jr. & co., and that Goomba or Koopa were both more iconic and "relevant". I personally think PP was Sakurai and the team's cheeky response to having to make a pre-order bonus rather than a middle finger to fans, but that's a post for another day. If the "relevancy" argument were actually heeded, we'd have nothing but third parties and core Mario characters, and I don't think even casual fans would want that.

Well said, Flappy. (Also "No-one played Golden Sun."; well, whoops! Guess I don't exist. Or the hundreds of people who have frequented the Isaac support threads on this site and others.)

I still believe that Piranha Plant was, at least on some level, a compromise to allow people to play as Petey Piranha.

Does anyone know what WFT is trying to do in the trailer when she gets attacked by those beams?

I think she was trying to do the Sun Salutation...

That or she was trying to go out in style.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Piranha Plant was technically leaked. We just didn't know about it.

Yeah, it was posted on 4chan in September, and nobody replied to it...

 

[staindgrey]

Maaaaaaaaan, I just read some Japanese transcripts of reactions from the last Direct... I think the one that stood out to me most was:


"Your Twitter says you're half Korean. Smash is made for humans."



Like, god DAMN Japan, chill

I dated a Korean in college and she told me the Japanese/Korean hate was very real when she worked in Japan.

Not like, "she was afraid for her life" real, but she and her dad had been the recipients of a lot of nonchalant hate speech.

 

[Will]

The new protag of FE: Three Hourses, though I don't know where he heard he was DLC...

I thought the protagonist was Edelgard? Don't we still know virtually nothing about Three Houses atm?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

That's understandable. I didn't know who she was until a couple of months ago

I half-expect people to go "I lost to salad dressing!".

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai, what in the world made you think giving an already strong character jet boots was a good idea.

The same train of thought that gave Diddy his Lanky Kong powers that he didn't need.

 

[Luigi The President]

And so does the exact opposite, what's your point? One is not more likely than the other, you're painting a facade.

One of these things hasn't been able to be proved as anything by Vergeben. All he's been able to state is that there's Minecraft content in the game. Not any specifics of what he is.

 

[NextChannelGames]

That scene with Sonic & Pikachu is the best moment in the trailer.

True blue. pic.twitter.com/i5TyEXIvId

— Sapphire 💖💚 (@gomipomi) November 4, 2018

 

[Deleted member]

I searched who is Byleth.

The Tree Houses character.

 

[TheoreticalMyth]

I actually think his chances are more likely than ever.
"Minecraft content" now has a above-average chance to be a Mii costume or some music or even a Spirit which comes alongside Banjo's foray in as DLC.

Which is why I'm not totally giving up on him. Despite that though, I have a feeling that verge is going to do what he did with the gen 7 rep: wait for more info to come in, withhold it, then say that Steve is in. I'm only being pessimistic so if he does get in, I can be happy, and if he doesn't, I don't have to get hurt like I did with shadow.

Edit: spelling

 

[Kuon]

The new protag of FE: Three Hourses, though I don't know where he heard he was DLC...

Oh okay, that makes a lot of sense actually. I could totally see a FE Three Houses character for DLC

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai, what in the world made you think giving an already strong character jet boots was a good idea.

And completely made up ones at that!

The whip was also made up, doh.

 

[Luigifan18]

I mean it has other good moves which is why I reacted that way

Speaking of, Revenge depends on the attack that activated it, and considering it's frame 3, don't risk laggy attacks that do big boy damage on it unless you want to get bodied by back throw or some ****

Doesn't Revenge not completely negate the damage Incineroar takes, though?

With that speed and awful recovery it would take a miracle for him to be top tier. He'd need very good setups and kill confirms, but if bringing him off stage handicaps him severely there's not much hope.

He has absolutely no vertical recovery.

That's patently false, Cross Chop does rise in the air. What Incineroar has is a bad recovery — it's very linear, and his recovery move causes him to fall quickly and in a predefined arc after the ascent is over.

Maaaaaaaaan, I just read some Japanese transcripts of reactions from the last Direct... I think the one that stood out to me most was:


"Your Twitter says you're half Korean. Smash is made for humans."



Like, god DAMN Japan, chill

I know there's bad blood between Japan and Korea, but Jesus Christ, that reads like a prelude to a **** of Nanking.

 

[Idon]

The same train of thought that gave Diddy his Lanky Kong powers that he didn't need.

Wait what?
I just thought that was "lolcartoonphysics" but making it a lanky kong reference would actually make sense.

 

[Will]

One of these things hasn't been able to be proved as anything by Vergeben. All he's been able to state is that there's Minecraft content in the game. Not any specifics of what he is.

Yes. Ergo, both are equally possible, and nothing has changed to be different, as you said, "now". Your point?

 

[Kuon]

I looked him up, and well, apparently he's a figure in... Demonology.

What the ****.

He's from FE Three Houses, possibly the main dude

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Some spicy Ultimate memes for yall

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Poor Grinch and Waluigi.

 

[lightdrago]

I thought the protagonist was Edelgard? Don't we still know virtually nothing about Three Houses atm?

Edlegard isn't the protagonist, but she is one of three main character (students I think) that interact with Byleth. She just gets talked about more than the other two. I haven't followed updates much with it so I don't exactly know how much info is available to the public.

 

[Luigi The President]

Which is why I'm not totally giving up on him. Despite that though, I have a feeling that verge is going to do what he did with the gen 7 rep: wait for more info to come in, withhold it, then say that Steve is in. I'm only being pessimistic so if he does get in, I can be happy, and if he doesn't, I don't have to get hurt like I did with shadow.

Edit: spelling

Definitely pursue the "set your expectations low" route imo.

 

[Kuon]

I half-expect people to go "I lost to salad dressing!".

Salad dressing? Am I missing a reference here?

 

[Opossum]

Byleth over Edelgard would make me sad. At least Edelgard has a meme attached to her in the FE fandom.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

He's from FE Three Houses, possibly the main dude

Right. That makes much more sense...

Although, I thought that was Edelgard?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

The whip was also made up, doh.

They had to pick a model as a base for Bayonetta.

Unfortunately, the only person wearing heels at the time had a dress , so ZSS was picked.

 

[Idon]

The whip was also made up, doh.

Yeah, but it's a made up move on an already existing tool. Big step up from giving her an entirely new weapon. Like, might as well give Link a gun.

 

[Deleted member]

Wait what?
I just thought that was "lolcartoonphysics" but making it a lanky kong reference would actually make sense.

There's nothing stating it's a reference to Lanky, but sense he's the one who can stretch his arms out just for you it might be.

It's the closest we'll ever get to a playable Lanky Kong regardless.

 

[Luigi The President]

Yes. Ergo, both are equally possible, and nothing has changed to be different, as you said, "now". Your point?

...I'm not sure how you're not seeing my point???

My point is that there are now several more venues for the Minecraft content now to be in.
This gives more chances for B&K being a playable deal as nothing has come out for them as just "content", which can be perceived as a negative or positive point.

But I get the feeling that as always neither of us are gonna change our mind here, so.

 

[Deleted member]

Audrey II is actually growing on me.

He looks nice and fun to play as.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Byleth over Edelgard would make me sad. At least Edelgard has a meme attached to her in the FE fandom.

Yeah, and Byleth is just another blue haired swordsman...
Edelgard is an axe user, correct?

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I saw someone mention women in full armor so if anyone's interested I got these

pls play etrian odyssey