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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Tiltedssb

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
you have pikachu as normal...
 

Jumpinjahosafa

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I have nothing to be dissapointed about

Snake is back

Ryu got buffed

Ganon got super buffed

Young Link is back

Any other newcomers are icing on the cake, doesn't matter if the leak is real of fake to me
 

SushiRoll

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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
Errbody came out of the woodwork and said "it's false, trust me, I'm a doctor."
 

CrunchyCHEEZIT

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gotta be real, it'll be hard to convince me that the final newcomers won't be garbage if all the insiders are scrambling to claim that Geno and Banjo just flat out aren't in/are ATs and Isaac is an AT. at least I have... Richter, I guess.
 

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Here's the link to the Official Nintendo Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nintendo
And the UK Nintendo Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEG4fd9DERXPzziMo3WgYMA
And Japanese Nintendo: https://www.youtube.com/user/NintendoJPofficial

Here's the link to the US Direct: https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/11-01-2018/
Here's the link to the UK Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OSFIBuaHj0
Here's the link to the JP Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQuFh_zgdsg

Enjoy.

EDIT: Why did I post all three, you might ask? For a very simple reason: The US Direct has Sakurai dubbed over, the UK Direct has Sakurai subtitled, and the JP Direct is the original Japanese footage with no translations.
Thanks! That's crazy that they already have this video up and ready to go for tomorrow
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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Ok so let me get this right, insiders want me to believe there's "no big third party announcements tomorrow"
But at the same time they want me to believe we are getting Ken, from the biggest fighting game franchise, also Shadow from Sonic, an arguably huge franchise, a Square Enix new character, which would be huge, and also Minecraft content, which would also be huge.
Adds up pretty well
These people backpedal so hard and fast that they shouldn't even be leaking, but qualify for the Tour of France.
 
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ErenJager

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It'll be even worse if Geno and Banjo get in.
'EVERYONE IS HERE! ... Except you, Isaac.'
Meh most ppl wouldnt even care for isaac if he wasnt in brawl.
Sakurai removed him after brawl for a reason.
Probably never to return, if he did probably as an assist.
 

bountyhunta87

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Pikachu normal?
 

KMDP

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Doubtful sakurai would do that tbh

He's been putting fan favorites in
"The Grinch leak is too good to be true, why would they put all these fan favourites in?"

*clears throat*
:ulticeclimbers::ultpichu::ultyounglink::ultsnake::ultwolf::ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultchrom::ultdarksamus::ultkrool::ultisabelle:
That is literally all they've been doing this game.
 

Porygon2

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Feel Dark Samus would be better as dark/poison. I guess G&W would also be dark in the lore of Smash, with him being made of shadowbugs.
 

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Later as in? I thought the general consensus was this is the final blowout (I personally don't consider that to be the case, especially in my predictions, as I believe there's a rumored Nintendo Direct also). Or is that a reference to DLC?
Probably reference to DLC.
 

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gotta be real, it'll be hard to convince me that the final newcomers won't be garbage if all the insiders are scrambling to claim that Geno and Banjo just flat out aren't in/are ATs and Isaac is an AT. at least I have... Richter, I guess.
What do you mean? That last part about Richter confused me
 

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Imo. Dante would be really lackluster for me.. The best playable version of Dante already exists in MvC3... Please Sakurai, give us a character that has never been in a fighting game before..instead of rehashing something that has already been done...

I dont include Ryu in this due to him being the main fighting character of all time. Obvious pick, but Dante?... There are many other characters that have a **** ton more support and have been wanted much more.
 
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Merry Samhain to all the tots and tykes.

When you raise your bonfires tonight, consider doing so in the name of Smash, that you might reap good harvest tomorrow.
 

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Imo. Dante would be really lackluster for me.. The best playable version of Dante exists in MvC3... Please Sakurai, give us a character that has never been in a fighting game before..instead of rehashing something that has already been done...

I dont include Ryu in this due to him being the main fighting character of all time. Obvious pick, but Dante?... There are many other characters that have a **** ton more support and have been wanted much more.
Careful of your wording, bud...
People really like Dante here
 

Smashoperatingbuddy123

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Hoping for the best tomorrow

If real looking at everyone on the forums hype comments

If fake hitting the eject button to dodge the flame war and huge negativity
(Unless its nearly as good of a final roster)
 
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If we get 7 newcomers revealed, the character section on the website will look weird, with one empty slot.

I feel like a DLC reveal would make up for that if Grinch is real.
 

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gotta be real, it'll be hard to convince me that the final newcomers won't be garbage if all the insiders are scrambling to claim that Geno and Banjo just flat out aren't in/are ATs and Isaac is an AT. at least I have... Richter, I guess.
I mean, now that Namco executives have come out and said they purposely feed people false info, the whole "insiders" scene is now inherently untrustworthy.
 

Porygon2

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Imo. Dante would be really lackluster for me.. The best playable version of Dante exists in MvC3... Please Sakurai, give us a character that has never been in a fighting game before..instead of rehashing something that has already been done...

I dont include Ryu in this due to him being the main fighting character of all time. Obvious pick, but Dante?... There are many other characters that have a **** ton more support and have been wanted much more.
Tend to agree as Dante would be another 'how to cram his crazy fighting style into Smash' type fighter, in the vein of Bayonetta. I'd prefer something purely creative., like the bike-heavy mach rider or beam swapping Samus
 
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Imo. Dante would be really lackluster for me.. The best playable version of Dante already exists in MvC3... Please Sakurai, give us a character that has never been in a fighting game before..instead of rehashing something that has already been done...

I dont include Ryu in this due to him being the main fighting character of all time. Obvious pick, but Dante?... There are many other characters that have a **** ton more support and have been wanted much more.
A newcomer to the fighting genre... Like Crash Bandicoot or Spyro? :)
 

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I know that it's offtopic, but has anyone heard of Undertale 2? It seems like that game is trending today, so it's possible that an Undertale music could be in the game. However, it has a very major flaw you may not know. Check the Social thread for more details.
 

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Merry Samhain to all the tots and tykes.

When you raise your bonfires tonight, consider doing so in the name of Smash, that you might reap good harvest tomorrow.
Everyone, create four large bonfires in the Shape of the Smash Logo in the hopes of your most wanted getting in!

Be sure to do the Dededance while doing so.
 

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Every insider is claiming it’s fake because..... They’re trying to cast doubt about the leak in order to surprise us. Still team real.
 

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I know that it's offtopic, but has anyone heard of Undertale 2? It seems like that game is trending today, so it's possible that an Undertale music could be in the game. However, it has a very major flaw you may not know. Check the Social thread for more details.
It's Halloween what do you expect
 

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Here's the link to the Official Nintendo Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nintendo
And the UK Nintendo Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEG4fd9DERXPzziMo3WgYMA
And Japanese Nintendo: https://www.youtube.com/user/NintendoJPofficial

Here's the link to the US Direct: https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/11-01-2018/
Here's the link to the UK Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OSFIBuaHj0
Here's the link to the JP Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQuFh_zgdsg

Enjoy.

EDIT: Why did I post all three, you might ask? For a very simple reason: The US Direct has Sakurai dubbed over, the UK Direct has Sakurai subtitled, and the JP Direct is the original Japanese footage with no translations.
I didn't know that the UK Version is subbed instead of dubbed. I'm currently learning Japanese at the moment and I've been trying to watch stuff in Japanese with subs so I can still understand whats going on. Thanks for posting this friend!
 

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I know that it's offtopic, but has anyone heard of Undertale 2? It seems like that game is trending today, so it's possible that an Undertale music could be in the game. However, it has a very major flaw you may not know. Check the Social thread for more details.
You mean the game that has a download page that explicitly asks people not to talk about it? Is that the one you're talking about?
 

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This is the final form of my predictions:

69: Isaac
70: Mach Rider
38e: Shadow
60e: Ken
71: Chorus Kids
72: Skull Kid
73: KOS-MOS
74: Banjo
75: Geno

Grinch leak is for real and here are some dlc predictions: 76: Incineroar, 54e: Medusa, 36e: Dixie, 77: Sora, 78: Bandana Dee and probably a few more going up to like over 80 or something.. Im going off a guess that some such as Incineroar were saved later for dlc so the game can launch at release without a delay and some 3rd parties such as Square and Microsoft would totally want to try to add other characters in as dlc.. Could we really actually see Master Freaken Chief in Super Smash Bros?
 
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KirbyWorshipper2465

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I know that it's offtopic, but has anyone heard of Undertale 2? It seems like that game is trending today, so it's possible that an Undertale music could be in the game. However, it has a very major flaw you may not know. Check the Social thread for more details.
It's a spin-off, actually.

I mean, now that Namco executives have come out and said they purposely feed people false info, the whole "insiders" scene is now inherently untrustworthy.
Which, by proxy, makes Vegebeans even more unreliable than expected.
 
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