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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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ErenJager

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Direct Predictions

The remaining unseen final smashes shown.
Frogger Assist Trophy.
Mecha Mewtwo Skin.
Helmetless Captain Falcon & Mega Man.
Viridi € (Palutenas unused costums).
Chibi Robo assist trophy.
Spirit Mode shown.
Ken €
Geno
Lloyd assist trophy.
 

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Emily Rodgers said there won't be any third party reveals at the direct, but considering Ken is all but officially confirmed I'd recommend taking her word at face value.
Also only 24 hours left, we're in the end game now.
Cool. I guess I’ll believe her since she DID predict Mother 3, after all.
 

Xaranid

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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
 

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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
It's a moot point thanks to the immediacy of the Direct.
We all know it's not real, anyway. Shrek's not in.
 

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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
A direct was announced so people stopped being so concerned about it.
 

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
 

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Whatever happens tomorrow The Grinch will be my number 1 requested character until the end of time.
 

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Someone works closely with media/PR on a daily basis here. The only reason ACP-PLV wouldn’t put out a statement on the leak:

1) They have contacted Nintendo about it and N suggested that they just stay quiet and let time run its course (happens a lot).

Or

2) They’re just really really bad at PR. If your brand is based off working discretely with high end companies on keeping a lid on things while producing their product, your PR folks are paid to do everything they can to protect that, which would include “These rumors are 100%, unequivocally false.” Or something like that.

I personally don’t see another reason why they wouldn’t. It’s bad for business if your brand is floating around as one who can’t scare employees to honoring an NDA.
 

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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
Its alive

At long last they finally realized we are just hitting walls with both sides evidence

So they are waiting for the direct to confirm or bust the leak
 

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Great. Maybe C. Falcon is Fighting/Fire, though?
 

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Normal means Luigi is immune to Ghost.
 
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Brace yourselves for the third and (thankfully) final assist trophy massacre.
I'm guessing Shantae, Chibi-Robo, Dixie, and Jibanyan as Assists and Zeraora and Gengar as Poke Ball Pokemon. (I'm probably gonna be SO wrong...)
 
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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Cloud would be Steel-Flying.
Because his name is Cloud.
 

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tomorrow will be painful to get through. direct starts at 3:00 pm where I live, but I gotta work until pretty much 10:00 pm...oof
 

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Thanks, even though it is the UK channel, but what difference does it make, anyway?
I mentioned this on the previous page, but...

The US Direct will have Sakurai dubbed over with a voice actor, while the UK Direct will have Sakurai subtitled with no dubbing.

That's the sole difference between the US and UK Directs.
(Funnily enough, it's actually the difference between the US and UK versions of Dragon Ball Z: Budokai as well, for a fun fact.)
 
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People seem to have stopped discussing the Grinch leak entirely, was it proven to be false? Or is it just a moot point now that the direct is so close? Just making sure I didn't miss anything major.
It's alive, it's moreso the contradictions brought up by multiple insiders, particularly credible ones, that kind of have people holding their tongues on it until tomorrow.

Not dead by any means, just... waiting.
 

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I mentioned this on the previous page, but...

The US Direct will have Sakurai dubbed over with a voice actor, while the UK Direct will have Sakurai subtitled with no dubbing.

That's the sole difference between the US and UK Directs.
(Funnily enough, it's actually the difference between the US and UK versions of Dragon Ball Z: Budokai as well, for a fun fact.)
Looks like I will wait for the US version, then. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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Ok so let me get this right, insiders want me to believe there's "no big third party announcements tomorrow"
But at the same time they want me to believe we are getting Ken, from the biggest fighting game franchise, also Shadow from Sonic, an arguably huge franchise, a Square Enix new character, which would be huge, and also Minecraft content, which would also be huge.
Adds up pretty well
 

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To kill the time, here's the typing of every Smash fighter, if they were a Pokémon.

Mario - Fire
Donkey Kong - Grass, Fighting
Link - Fairy, Steel
Samus - Steel, Electric
Dark Samus - Steel, Ice
Yoshi - Normal
Kirby - Normal
Fox - Normal
Pikachu - Normal
Luigi - Fire, Normal (Get it?)
Ness - Psychic
Captain Falcon - Fighting
Jigglypuff - Normal, Fairy
Peach - Normal
Daisy - Normal
Bowser - Dragon, Dark
Ice Climbers - Ice
Sheik - Fighting, Psychic
Zelda - Psychic, Fairy
Dr. Mario - Normal, Fighting
Pichu - Electric
Falco - Flying
Marth - Steel
Lucina - Steel
Young Link - Fairy, Steel
Ganondorf - Dark, Steel
Mewtwo - Psychic
Roy - Steel, Fire
Chrom - Steel
Mr. Game & Watch - ???
Meta Knight - Steel, Flying
Pit - Flying
Dark Pit - Flying, Dark
Zero Suit Samus - Electric, Fighting
Wario - Fighting, Poison
Snake - Rock
Ike - Steel, Fighting
Squirtle - Water
Ivysaur - Grass, Poison
Charizard - Fire, Flying
Diddy Kong - Rock, Flying
Lucas - Psychic
Sonic - Normal, Fighting
King Dedede - Flying
Olimar - Ground
Lucario - Fighting, Steel
R.O.B. - Steel
Toon Link - Fairy, Steel
Wolf - Dark, Fighting
Villager - Dark
Mega Man - Steel
Wii Fit Trainer - Normal
Rosalina & Luma - Psychic, Ghost
Little Mac - Fighting, Ground
Greninja - Water, Dark
Mii Brawler - Fighting
Mii Swordfighter - Steel
Mii Gunner - Electric
Palutena - Psychic, Flying
Pac-Man - Normal
Robin - Steel, Psychic
Shulk - Psychic, Steel
Bowser Jr. - Dragon, Bug
Duck Hunt - Flying, Ground
Ryu - Fighting
Cloud - Steel
Corrin - Steel, Dragon
Bayonetta - Dark, Fairy
Inkling - Water, Poison
Ridley - Dragon, Dark
Simon - Steel, Dark
Richter - Steel, Dark
King K. Rool - Water, Rock
Isabelle - Fairy

I haven't played all of the games, so I'm not sure what the right typing for Cloud would be, just went off of his design.
Dark Samus would likely be Steel, Poison considering she's made of Phazon which is a highly radioactive/corrosive/poisonous substance.
 

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I mentioned this on the previous page, but...

The US Direct will have Sakurai dubbed over with a voice actor, while the UK Direct will have Sakurai subtitled with no dubbing.

That's the sole difference between the US and UK Directs.
(Funnily enough, it's actually the difference between the US and UK versions of Dragon Ball Z: Budokai as well, for a fun fact.)
I feel like I should be watching the UK version but I've kind of got accustomed to Sakurai's US dub.
 

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Verge said Isaac is an assist? Ooof, a lot of people are gonna be mad if that’s true.
 

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If a Dragon Quest character is announced tomorrow, they'll also formally announce that Dragon Quest Builders 2 is coming to the west at the start of the treehouse.
 

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