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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.

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FurretBro

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HesIn said:
Actually, if there's any character besides Mario who would be involved in a cinematic with him, it's Rosalina with her astral powers. I could see this as a deliberate hint/reminder to people who forgot Rosalina exists.
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Mariotehplumber and Rosalina on the same page
 
TheCJBrine

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So it seems the lack of a music update indicates a new franchise character.

I'm guessing, Sora, Dragon Quest, Mach Rider, Banjo-Kazooie, Isaac, or Chorus Kids.

Vergeben said Isaac is an AT but of course we're disregarding insiders anyway due to information conflicting between them with some of them refusing to say anything but "Incineroar and one other character are missing from the leak."
 
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SAMation said:
Your main’s franchise gets its own smash bros styled game with 12 fighters. Who would be in?

Mario Franchise:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Wario
Waluigi
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Toad
Rosalina
Yoshi
Geno
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Yoshi
Boshi
Kamek
Poochy
Baby Bowser
Baby Mario
Baby Luigi
Shy Guy
Stork
Raphael
Crayzee Dayzee
Pak E. Derm

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Alastor017 said:
Is it wrong of me to say that Sakurai would be the kinda guy to retire from Smash due to leaks?
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Nope.
He loves his work, which is why he keeps coming back to it again and again.

I mean, who wouldn't? Being head of the most prolific video-game crossover of all time isn't a position you'd give up so lightly.
I doubt having the surprise spoiled for people who want to be spoiled would convince anyone to leave that type of position.
 
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Legendary Spirit Tamer said:
This is what put me on Team Fake too. You don't just add/take away new objects just like that.

With all of the Murals using the exact same background on the site? Why would one suddenly not use one? Then you have all these "cut-off" spots and such. It fits too well for somebody to fake it.

It'd be neat if all of them would become playable, that said.
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not just compression though, Ive seen team real arguments that say the incomplete-roster mural could have had details added from the original background of the complete-roster mural to make the gaps feel more intentional. I personally haven't thought much about this theory but there are more reasoned arguments out there.
 
StarLight42

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In case anyone missed it, Vergeben just claimed Isaac is an assist trophy over on GameFAQS. Check his post history. He said this on an Emily Rogers related thread.
 
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「Hinata」 said:
If mariotehplumber is behind the Grinch Leak, real or fake, I'm fine with it, because he'd face legal repercussions either way. To put it in the words of a Tumblr post I saw:

If it’s real, he’s responsible for leaking sensitive information from Nintendo, can get sued by Nintendo AND by his friend (or friend of a friend or complete stranger) Eric who he had either tried to frame or who is also in trouble for breaking NDA.

If it’s fake, then he gets sued like hell by BOTH printing companies thought to be a part of this fiasco because it severely damages their reputations and their relationship with Nintendo.
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Yeah, if mariotehplumber is really going with this "I did the Grinch leak" thing, then he's in really hot water no matter what.
 
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Scoliosis Jones said:
Why is it that leakers are always "100% wrong and can't be trusted", yet we put full blind faith in a blurry 4chan leak that happens to have some things going for it? It's amazing.

Like hey, believe what you want, it's not my job to regulate how hyped people get or to convince people to temper their expectations but I think it's hilarious that people are shrugging folks off just because they say they have information. It's like nobody knows who these people are.

Should a lot of these people said they know people/stuff if they couldn't produce it? Probably not with the Smash fanbase. It's not even just because the fanbase is bad necessarily, but because it's about a mascot fighter and spots are slim pickings this time. You're poking the bear by even suggesting you have information.

That said, to believe that regardless of the identity of the leaker that they're just looking for attention and have no credibility is ludicrous. It's completely understandable that "insiders" would protect their sources. I have friends that are actually involved in the community. If they had information from leakers and they told me, do you think I'd tell some of you guys what they said two days before a Direct? Of course I wouldn't! That doesn't make any sense!

Leakers are protected by their confidants because there is a relationship of trust. Some of these relationships are friendships. You're literally asking someone to betray their friend to share information on a video game, and it's a video game that will have a final info dump within 36 hours.

I'm not even trying to make any of you feel bad, but to think about what you're suggesting. Some of the people that suggested they have information have good track records. Some do not. But the "team" mentality has made it seem like you have to believe one side or the other. That's not the case at all. You can feel like the Grinch leak is real while also thinking, "Well if it isn't, what this credible person says might work out too!".

We're all here because we love Smash. That's great.

Have some respect, at least, for some of these insiders. You don't necessarily have to believe them, but at least have some respect for the work they do for the community. The "insiders" are some of the people who run this site, or other websites that have Smash fans. They support the community. That's much more to be said than the users who come here to speculate, and then once the DLC is over, disappear for 3-4 years until the new one gets announced.

That is the user that will be forgotten, and that's regardless of if they're right about some stupid leak.

I'm even putting my money where my mouth is and have been invited to join the Writing Team here, which I'm excited for. I feel like I can finally give back or do something for the community again like last time when I became a moderator (and then disappeared, thus getting stripped of my mod status).

The leak hasn't even been proven either way, and some people are making themselves seem foolish. Let's chill people. Less than 36 hours remain until Base speculation turns into DLC speculation, and some dreams are either realized or crushed.

Prepare yourselves for that before taking anything for 100% truth.
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This is why you were in the poster even though you didn't ask to be.

Thanks Teach.
 
Pakky

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Mutsukki said:
Hoooo boy.

If that's really the case and it's shown on the direct, I don't think I want to enter this forum on Thursday

And...

what if, Isaac is an assist AND a boss...

along with Shadow...
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No... **** I hope this is a lie
 
SAMation

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This direct can not come soon enough, I can’t take all this conflicting info and leaks and fakes and reals anymore!!
 
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Paperchampion23 said:
Feel like Verg is doing this in spite, but watch this **** be real
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Vergie has praised Golden Sun before so I doubt it.

I really hope this is an instance of him having false info or i'm going to be really cheesed.
 
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Smashing Ramen said:
No Incineroar
Some characters are actually assists
some problems with the background
The roster being too good to be true
7 Characters seem a bit much
The Snapchatter's name not being blurred out all the way
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the first 2 and last 3 arent even actual proof against the leak, its just contradicting information from a "source" with no actual proof
 
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Flyboy said:
To be frank, the leaked roster is incredibly exciting, but on a personal level one that has Isaac, Geno, the Chorus Kids...but also like...Elma, Leon Kennedy/Jill Valentine, Joker, 2B, Arle Nadja, Travis Touchdown, Phoenix Wright, KOS-MOS, etc...I can see why that would be way more exciting to some people (myself included). For all I know they could hit us with ****ing Reimu and Quote and Bond and I'd die instantly.

Like, it's not impossible to make a better roster than the leaked one that doesn't include big fan faves, it's just a matter of changing your perspective.
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Depends. Objectively speaking, a roster with more characters than the leak would be "a lot better", strictly on the case of more being better. The tricky bit is if Mystic is talking about a leak with the same amount, or God forbid, something with even less characters.
 
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This keeps getting crazier and crazier by the minute. What even is real life anymore? lol
 
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