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The only way I see Octolings becoming playable would be if they're made into alts for the Inklings, which I already feel is pretty unlikely. As their own standalone characters, I find that to be even moreso unlikely.
Sakurai already dismissed Goku in an interview stating Mii Fighters exist for characters like him and Spongebob. Besides, a Smash OC is far more deserving than him!
Link can jump in the Zelda series. Zelda II, any game with the Roc's Cape/Feather, he auto-jumps in various games too, backflips, etc.
I wouldnt call Cloud a casual choice nor Bayo a silent fanbase.
I think it’s most likely that Dark Pit being decloned to be more of a semi clone more than a 4th rep entering.
Oooh, I’m going for Lycanroc. The Lycanroc thread is barren, and that’s sad.
I’m going to go on a limb and say that as of right now, there aren’t any big Nintendo All stars left to choose from. So I think it’s more likely that characters like Issac or someone from a smaller series that had seen success have a greater chance to be considered ever before, and seeing that how the ballot had many people going for characters like Issac, it’s even more possible that we can finally have them playable.
Cloud definitely wasn't one of the frontrunners amongst the core Smash fanbase, I'd even say his popularity in Smash specific communities had dwindled since Brawl, even Geno was a more popular Square Enix rep. Bayonetta was a bit more popular, but I don't think anyone on here anticipated that she could win the ballot, I saw a fair amount of demand for her on social media sites like Twitter and Reddit, but then you'd go on Smashboards and her thread would be buried somewhere on page 5 in the character speculation forum. Regardless of all that they certainly weren't perceived to be in the least bit realistic on this site, let alone frontrunners.
It happened with Villager, so i wouldn't put it out of mind. Plus, with the whole "Ridley is too big" i wonder if he thought about want the "community" has said about his opinion.
That was thier reasoning, yes.
I hate ledge hogging so much. I want the Smash 4 ledge mechanics to make a return. Anyone agree?
Well I can see what you mean.
I never saw WFT as a WFT. I always though each game always got a Retro character (Icies, Pit, Duck Hunt) and a character representing some sort of peripheral (G&W, ROB, WFT).I could use help adjusting my roster predictions. Tell me what should be adjusted in terms of newcomer choices for now, don't focus on anything else:
There's one particular section that I feel that I should tone down thanks to adding some potential last minute clones, but I am kind of torn in removing ribbon girl because she is so farfetched tbh. It almost makes me doubt an Arms character getting in. And I still need to add that WFT WTF character in the roster so that my predictions hit that sweet spot. Perhaps replace Ribbon Girl with an FE character like Alm, Celica, or FE Switch protagonist instead maybe?!?!
I would argue that Sakurai wasn't even aware of King K. Rool's demand during pre-Smash 4. The last poll Sakurai conducted before that game was the Brawl poll in Japan which gave us two newcomers in Sonic and Mega Man, who was directly below Sonic in third-party choices*. Considering that Diddy Kong hadn't been confirmed yet and the DK fan base was focused on getting him in, I doubt K. Rool performed well. Seeing as Sakurai used this same poll for Smash 4, he wouldn't be able to tell that K. Rool was actually wanted and thus had no reason to put him in. Then the ballot came and while it is true he didn't get in again, he did receive a consolation prize in the form of a Mii Costume. This is the first time K. Rool had ever received recognition outside of a trophy. Considering that he acknowledged Geno as a popular request, whom's only appearance was a popular SNES Mario RPG and a cameo in GBA's Mario Superstar Saga, I guaranteed you that K. Rool had to perform strongly to receive additional recognition.
I was going to say this as well. Duck Hunt could be considered to represent a peripheral too though.
It's either Captain Toad or no Toad. That is if you want a Toad that would be an actually interesting and a notable part of the Wii U/Early Switch era.
WTF!
A Fire Emblem 16 or Metroid Prime 4 character could end up as DLC, though. They'd have to be in a Corrin situation, where the characters' respective games release around an expected DLC release window.
Overall, pretty good roster. As people have said, probably should split up the transformations very unlikely that they will come back (thank goodness).I could use help adjusting my roster predictions. Tell me what should be adjusted in terms of newcomer choices for now, don't focus on anything else:
There's one particular section that I feel that I should tone down thanks to adding some potential last minute clones, but I am kind of torn in removing ribbon girl because she is so farfetched tbh. It almost makes me doubt an Arms character getting in. And I still need to add that WFT WTF character in the roster so that my predictions hit that sweet spot. Perhaps replace Ribbon Girl with an FE character like Alm, Celica, or FE Switch protagonist instead maybe?!?!
Or maybe because he happens to be a samurai, something that’s unique as far as swordsmen and visually distinct.
Oh no doubt. I just meant the base game specifically.
Yeah, I agree in that aspect, I don't understand why people are already dismissing Gen VII too soon; Pokémon Switch is still a complete mystery; the same case with Fire Emblem Switch (but at least this game could be expected to get a ultra fast period of speculation between annoucement and release... still, it's very hard to imagine a FE16 character unless we get a "Roy").
Oh you have no idea how happy I’d be if Isabelle is confirmed.
When I first heard the idea it seemed pretty ridiculous to me honestly, but that has really changed over the past couple of weeks. As you said she really has become quite popular and is kinda the face of Animal Crossing at the moment.
Isabelle is a front runner IMO.
it wasn't because of the ballot, it was because he was the most logical choice when representing Final Fantasy. And it makes sense to have Final Fantasy if we're talking about third-party games with relations to Nintendo. The character itself may not have relations to Nintendo, but Final Fantasy definitely does with it's NES/SNES/GBA/DS games and crossovers with Mario. It might have made more sense to have Terra Branford, but Cloud was already a popular request for Super Smash Bros.
There was never any reason for Sakurai to think that King K. Rool was so requested. Especially not during Smash 4. His last appearance was 2008 in Mario Super Sluggers and before that, the Donkey Kong games he appeared in sold pretty badly. So King K. Rool's last appearance when he was in his prime was the Donkey Kong Country games on GBA.
Yeah, I definitely agree on that, especially since we didn't see anything from Gen 8, FE16 or Prime 4. I personally think that the game started development in mid-to-late 2016, which does leave room for Spring Man and Rex, because Arms and XC2 were far into development at that time, whereas when we saw those three other games at E3, we only saw logos. Heck, Pokémon Switch was merely announced by TPC's CEO and we got nothing else.
My thinking in regards to FE16 is that it was announced last year to be coming this year, so it would have to have been in development for a while. I reckon we will see it fully revealed an given a release date at E3, which would be a perfect opportunity to segue into Smash with a new character reveal.
I could be wrong on FE16, it's really anybody's guess. But Gen 8, Prime 4 and Labo are out of the question IMO.
Probably the design changes we're gonna see
I legitimately can't see Isabelle being given any consideration for a playable fighter. I am predicting she will stay as an Assist Trophy since it's basically the perfect representation for who is literally the player's faithful assistant.
How about Sonic getting his design from Sonic Boom or Pac-Man from Ghostly Adventures?
I think some other potential changes could go to the fire emblem characters using a seasonal designs from heroes potentially. Like a swimsuit female robin/Female Corrin (like shulk), Christmas Male Robin, Roy’s valentines design, Lucina/Ike/Roy’s CYL outfits, Masked Lucina, there’s a long list
being the poster children for Mega Evolution being the start of something new perhaps with Battle Bond in Sun and Moon. be cut for the 8th gen starter or Pokemon they might be adding.
Somehow I doubt it as, considering the amount of FINAL FANTASY content we have in Smash 4, it was pretty costly to include it.
I really don’t think they will cut Lucario but it’s a possibility. It just seems pointless to cut him when they can just have both a new pokemon and Lucario since I’m sure Sakurai wants to avoid cutting characters especially relatively unique ones such as LucarioObjectively speaking I think based on
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I'm not really seeing why shouldn't
They seem married to this six pokemon in the roster thing to reflect how many pokemon one has on a team in the games so, yeah. I'm not really sure the count will ever go beyond six.
