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I don’t think the Pokémon GO team really communicates with Nintendo much at all, so I doubt there would be any kind of cross-promotion.
) that makes potentially weak or misguided statements. I think the line between criticism and personal attacks in the eyes of fans is really unclear, considering how this fanbase is. People get conditioned to see detractors as "idiots" raging about something Sakurai does that is actually (whether realistic or not) "good game design" because of how toxic things are in more immature sects of the Smash community. the main reason we used Palutena's Arrow in the games, Sakurai? It's different but it's also bad)
I really hope they can release the game before leaks happen. We're so close to release and they've still managed to keep everything secret.
People talked about Crash before the N. Sane Trilogy for Switch reveal, though.
Couple of thoughts.Since we're all uploading our rosters, I thought I would give mine a shot. It's mostly characters who I expect in the game with a few additions that are wishful thinking on my part.
Reasoning
Mario and Link are changed to their Odyssey/BoTW attires and have a few moves from those games in their moveset.
Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf are changed to their BoTW/HW attires respectively though their movesets stay intact (maybe Zelda's will change a bit IDK. I've given up hope on Ganon getting a rehaul, at least he'll have a better attire).
I feel Smash 5 may be Geno's time for inclusion. With him being considered for two game prior this game might be his chance. Otherwise I think the Mario newcomer spot will go to Captain Toad if Square Enix doesn't want to make it happen. Bowser Jr. gets cut I think because of him being low priority last time around so if there was a new Mario character he might (keyword "might" people) get excluded.
I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that DK gets two newcomers this time around. K. Rool for his Ballot presence and Dixie for the more recent DK games. The series absolutely can warrant that.
With Ridley I think we're looking at a Villager type situation where Sakurai has a change of mind for him like he did the latter. Either that or Ridley gets replaced by another Metroid character.
Bandana Dee gets in i'm almost sure. Kirby has had a lot of games in between the two releases (and on that note ever since it started) and Dee has been featured as the "Top 4" of that franchise.
Was tempted to add Wolf but I figured he's someone that would be added as DLC instead.
Either Decidueye gets in or a Gen 8 PKMN takes the spot of PKMN newcomer. Greninja cuts cut I feel to make room for whoever gets added in. There's always a chance he'll stay; however similar to Lucario.
FE is probably the most controversial here because Lucina and Corrin get cut though in return the main protag from FE16 is added in the game. Hopefully a non-sword fighter.
I was tempted to cut Dark Pit but I think he'll stay on the roster to give Kid Icarus a more solid representation on the roster. For that to happen either he'll be semi-cloned or he won't be on the roster at all similar to Lucina.
Isabella gets in because AC can warrant another character. I also feel an AC game is close to happening on the Switch.
Rex & Pyra will most likely get on the roster as a "team" of sorts. Xenoblade is big enough to have another character on the roster. Time constraints could work against the duo and if that were to happen I could see Elma getting in instead (my personal preference as well).
Spring Man and Labo are very iffy. ARMS was revealed like 6-8 months after development began so there's a chance they might not make it in. I doubt that personally and I think Sakurai made it a priority to get them in as a "last minute addition" of sorts because he saw the potential in that character. Labo would be the next Fit Trainer and i'm even more iffy on that character. Maybe Nintendo gave Sakurai info a lot of time beforehand and Labo was a last minute decision as well? I know a lot of these choices are done on the premise that Sakurai knew about the characters before hand. It's just my theory. Fit Trainer I think isn't making it next time round due to the "Wii" series being dead with that brand retired. Maybe.
Takamaru I feel is the most likely retro to be added in but I also added Andy from Advance Wars as well. I know, it's a longshot and I get that even if he's my most requested Smash character. The only reason I have him here is because this year marks the 30th anniversary of Famicom Wars back in 1988 so I have a shred of hope Intelligent Systems will finally allow this series to have a playable character to coincide with Smash Switch's release. It would also work out great because Andy would represent both the NES (Famicom Wars) and the GBA (Advance Wars) with his inclusion.
Dr. Mario (along with Lucas and Roy) I kept in the roster because I feel that Sakurai won't cut any characters who were previously cut beforehand. There's no rule saying this of course but honestly that's the way it should be. Alph gets promoted to clone status using his Rock Pikmin and Ribbon Girl is a clone of Spring Man similar to how Lucina was a clone of Marth.
Out of all the third parties added in Smash 4 I feel Megaman and Pacman are the safest. Sonic obviously because he's the face of third party Smash. Ryu I feel is also safe because of how iconic he is as "Mr. Fighting Games". Bayonetta is also safe with being the Ballot winner and her series having a major presence on Nintendo consoles (hopefully said return comes bundled with a nerf lol). Cloud I feel is a "Snake" kind of situation where he won't make the cut for the next game similar to how Snake didn't make Smash 4. Square Enix is Square Enix so I think he might not make it in the game next time round. I say this as someone who liked his inclusion as DLC and would want him to stay. Maybe he'll be re-added in as DLC again?
Bomberman I feel has a very good chance of inclusion as he's one of the big third party names yet to be included in Smash Bros. Rayman as well though for him i'm a bit iffy because there's a chance the Rabbids could get added in over him. I think Rayman would get in being the more classic, iconic character but who's to say?
Mii Fighters return along with two additional classes; Mii Magician and Mii Archer (something among the lines of that).
I also included characters who I think could be added in as DLC (barring advertisement characters not included here).
Most are third parties following the trend of Smash 4 DLC. Young Link I think is unlikely though he could always return with an MM inspired moveset and I think Travis is going to be the Bayonetta of the game. I feel that Scoprion would be the Cloud of this game as well if he was DLC (low chance, I know). Won't explain all of them here but you can ask me about any of these inclusions if you want.
Ok, now I definitely can see why you would think Doom Guy would not get in. I will definitely consider re-arranging my predictions now.
Is not demand the first thing you just said factors into a third-party guest being added though? And are you also suggesting that Sakurai would have a better chance at adding a Dark Souls character because of Japanese developers and being it more likely that they could be added due to timing?
There's a reason he's in Smash Bros. Crusade, which at least only has one real "off" character in Weegee.
The three most likely are probably Bomberman, Simon Belmont, and Shovel Knight. Maybe we'll get all three.
Avoid the internet entirely I guess. Especially if the game doesn't come out worldwide simultaneously, and even then, the whole roster would probably be leaked sometime before the first release.
To be fair, it wasn't hard to avoid the roster leak for Smash on 3DS. I chose to look at it, and I didn't know if it was real or not.
80s: Donbe & Hikari
I bet all my non-existent savings that the roster has already leaked and that it's bouncing around on some secret admin chatroom.
Right and people talked about Sans too. And the Rabbids. Almost any video game character with notable ties to or would mesh in well with Nintendo have been discussed. But the difference in how prevalent those conversations are before and after a single game shows up is, typically, pretty monumental. Especially when you step outside this site. And I guarantee you it will die down in favour of a new wave of feasible third-party games upon their reveal.
Nintendo Character from the 80s: Ridley
80's: Ridley
Technically Bandana Dee originated from Super Star. But I'll let that slide since Kirby Continuity is whacky, that barely counts and Bandana Dee is a swell fella. He literally barely didn't make my own list because of my own rules.
I’d be mostly happy with this roster... with the exception of Toon Zelda/Tetra. I feel like I’ve already said this once or twice, but the last thing I want to see when it comes to a new Zelda character (which is looooong overdue) is yet another version of the titular princess or Link himself. Zelda has so many unique, likable characters that could really shine in Smash (Skull Kid, the Champions, even Tingle), that it would feel like such a rip to get another version of the main characters.
Not bad. Just two things I feel like pointing out.
Bowser Jr. doesn't need a Koopa Clown car to be interesting and Paper Mario doesn't need a gimmick like stickers or paint to get in Smash. Even back in 2005, both characters had enough material to go off of for a decent moveset. All it takes is a little creativity.
Well, at least you'd be mostly happy with this roster as you said.
Well you just ignored my entire post, but that's fine I guess. Thanks for responding to my comment without even reading it.
1. So why not?
80's: Ridley
Other than I suppose the last line, this is all incredibly subjective.
I've mentioned that before myself. It's a mechanic that would lend itself very nicely to Smash. I never even considered "That" Blade for the Final Smash though, that's a good idea, especially if we get a Pyra/Mythra combo that other people have mentioned.So. I have a personal idea about a "gimmick" for Rex in Smash.
Blade affinity and how it works with XB2, and the identity of Pyra.
So.... in general, spoilers for the game below.
Blade Affinity is a mechanic where a line between Driver and Blade goes from nothing to a kind of thin blue belt of dust and it peaks at a solid golden line between the two.
Affinity is raised in game in general just by standing in close enough proximity to the Blade, and seems to increase further with auto-attacks and blade arts.![]()
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Now, how would this apply to Rex in Smash?
Rex is the active player, his Blade would be either in the background but always try to keep close like Pokemon Trainer or an intangible AI that follows close like Icies. As he lands attacks, more so with specials and smash attacks, affinity will strengthen. When the affinity is Maxed, Pyra will change to Mythra, which will give a stat boost and possibly strengthen specials similar to Cloud's Limit system. The third form of the Aegis blade, Pneuma, alongside Rex's Master Driver armor, then become the Final Smash. Either being the Level 3 special she's limited at in the main game or her Lv4 Special which is only accessible in NG+.
I did read it. You said that you were glad that Sakurai waited on characters like Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario because they didn't have any decent moveset material until later games. I respectfully disagree.
(1) I just think it's better to focus on the singular character instead of meshing two or three into one moveset.
80's: Daisy
Namely, without just doing Chain Attack similar to Shulk, THAT Blade is the only major "wow" factor from Rex's Moveset unless they make it Burning Sword/Sacred Arrow.
is Let's have the final area and penultimate boss for an rpg that never made it outside of japan.: "But that's when you were under the Chaos Kin's Control, Lady Palutena!" Hi
Well, that's funny because you literally responded with an argument that I already adressed. So if you read the post, then you definitely ignored the points that were made in it because now I have to repeat them a second time, even though I already adressed them to avoid having to do that.
No. I didn't say that.
No. You very disrespectfully ignored what I said and put words in my mouth.
Did you miss the part where I said that having a unique move set doesn't make you an interesting fighter.
1: Well, if you say so. I can respect your thoughts on that, honestly.
