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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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MrHomelessHobo

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Some minor inconsistencies don't make it automatically fake, everyone was saying the Ken image leak was fake because of the clipping, but it seems that the ken leak was real
This is different though, its not a case of clipping.

Many details such as the ruins, ice blocks, they're all missing. Which is coincidentally all bits that are covered up by the characters in the current mural.

Lets say if someone where photoshopping this together, they wouldn't have any idea of the ruins due to it being blocked off.

This is enough for me to say its fake. I'm sorry.
 

Idon

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He seems to be down on one knee.

Also, he's a teenager (who in media are generally portrayed as pretty short).

Anyway, I have to go to bed.

Don't go too insane now.
>teenagers
>portrayed as pretty short
 

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
thank u vaan merry christmas
 

lightdrago

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
Do you play Fallout? Your Perception level is probably a 10.
 

Heracr055

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I'd be absolutely down for Lusamine as a fighter, but I really like Incineroar and dlc is his last chance.
I like Incineroar too since there's more to him than meets the eye. At first it was all "another Fire/Fighting bipedal fire starter!?" However, it was revealed he's Fire/Dark and that he holds a heel role in wrestling, using any dirty trick to win. However, like many real life heel fighters, he is a hit with the kids and he likes being a role model for them.
It's pretty cool what TPCi can do to completely change your outlook on a Pokemon design. Just look at this collection of the Tepig line (a line I always felt was bland) and tell me it doesn't melt your heart a little bit:

JHXwXsY.jpg
 
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Noipoi

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
This is good, but really really long.
 

TheCJBrine

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My only guess for it being real is that this is the background's design for hanging-decorations and such.

But now I just want the next direct to reveal Ken so we know for sure.
 
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Rumor Wave is up now.

I will try my best and detail everything in the video for people who can't watch it or want a list of what he said.

 

T3Z3R1

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
HOLD IT! Surely, they could change the background of the poster to current poster, and that's why leaked empty battlefield didn't match up with that image from E3 because someone had to change the background, In other words, I believe that they changed background after E3.
 

Untouch

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Now the real question is, did they make a different background for the mural compared to the E3 banner?
The mural we have right now looks really similar to the E3 banner (outside of some colour issues), so I don't know.
 

Peptobislawl

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
That's in game Battlefield right? That kinda makes any diffrences between the two irrelevent since they're diffrent renders to begin with.
 

The DanMan051

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Some minor inconsistencies don't make it automatically fake, everyone was saying the Ken image leak was fake because of the clipping, but it seems that the ken leak was real
One or two, yeah, but explain freaking 8 of them-- that are from areas that were covered up by characters.
 
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Idon

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I like Incineroar too since there's more to him than meets the eye. At first it was all "another Fire/Fighting bipedal fire starter!?" However, it was revealed he's Fire/Dark and that he holds a heel role in wrestling, using any dirty trick to win. However, like many real life heel fighters, he is a hit with the kids and he likes being a role model for them.
It's pretty cool what TPCi can do to completely change your outlook on a Pokemon design. Just look at this collection of the Tepig line (a line I always felt was bland) and tell me it doesn't melt your heart a little bit:
View attachment 171760
I can't believe the Pokemon company believes in color coded families.
 

doomedtacox

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This is different though, its not a case of clipping.

Many details such as the ruins, ice blocks, they're all missing. Which is coincidentally all bits that are covered up by the characters in the current mural.

Lets say if someone where photoshopping this together, they wouldn't have any idea of the ruins due to it being blocked off.

This is enough for me to say its fake. I'm sorry.
But we do have the image with the ruins though? So why would he leave them out?
 

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
So, I've kinda been out all day. Any new leaks? Anything new on the banner leak?
Any leaks disproven?

Also, we have lost another member. Hope whatever Alastor's dealing with get's better soon. He's left the site.
 

MrHomelessHobo

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HOLD IT! Surely, they could change the background of the poster to current poster, and that's why leaked empty battlefield didn't match up with that image from E3 because someone had to change the background, In other words, I believe that they changed background after E3.
But why would they do that
 

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You know, this may be off topic, but I have to suspend a **** ton of belief to believe that any of the Jojos are god damn teenagers.
Jotaro is an absolute MACHINE so comparing him to other "regular" teenagers in media is kinda unfair
 

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
If it's not too much to ask, is their any notable difference you can spot between the E3 Battlefield and what we can see of the background in the official character banner right now?
 

Untouch

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That's in game Battlefield right? That kinda makes any diffrences between the two irrelevent since they're diffrent renders to begin with.
No, one is the mural in the leak and one is the E3 banner, assumed to use the same asset.
We can't really tell yet though.
 

Good Guy Giygas

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Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.
Even if the background's different between the two versions, the leaker would still have to copy all of the existing banner character artwork onto the leak background, which would be a huge task in itself.
 
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Wambo

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Well, ****.

Welp, whoever made this "leak" in the first place was genius enough in every other aspect except for checking to see if an empty version of Battlefield already existed.

Potentially RIP Geno.
Potentially RIP Banjo.
Potentially RIP Mach Rider.
Potentially RIP Shadow.
Potentially RIP Ken.
Potentially RIP Chorus Men.
Potentially RIP Isaac.
 

Tree Gelbman

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Yeah, are we sure these aren't two different Battlefields?

Has the mural Battlefield even matched the in game Battlefield prior to this?
 

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
Totally not copied from Reddit
 

TheKnight

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HOW THE GRINCH STOLE SMASMASS

Every fan down in Smashville liked hype a lot…
But the Grinch, who lived somewhere in France, DID NOT!
The Grinch hated hype-ing! The whole pre-release season!
Now please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.

It could be he was sick of all the fake leaks.
It could be, perhaps, he could not wait 6 weeks.
But I think that the most likely reason of all,
Was he knew Verg’s roster was two sizes too small.

Whatever the reason, the size or the wait,
He stood there on Wednesday, ready for hate.
Staring down at the banner with a sour, Grinchy frown,
At unreleased characters – ****’s about to go down.

For he knew every fan down in Smashville online,
Were caught in a drought, just passing the time.
“And they’re talking about Skull Kid!” He snarled with a sneer,
“Next month is Ultimate! It’s practically here!”

Then he growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously humming,
“I must tell them somehow, they won’t see it coming!”
For each day he knew all the smash boys and smash girls,
Would cling to new leaks, it might make him hurl.

And then! Oh, the posts! Oh, the posts!
Posts! Posts! Posts!
That’s one thing he hated! The posts!
POSTS! POSTS! POSTS!

Then the fans young and old would talk and they’d guess.
And they’d guess! And they’d guess! And they’d GUESS!
GUESS! GUESS! GUESS!

They would guess there’d be Waddle Dee, and Minecraft’s own Steve.
Which was something the Grinch couldn’t stand to conceive.
And then they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every fan down in Smashville, the tall and the small,

Would all come together, like fish on a string.
Having taken the bait, oh to the threads they would cling!
His phone would ding! It would ding! Would Ding!
DING! DING! DING!

And the more the Grinch listened to his phone go ring ding,
The more the Grinch thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why, for 231 days I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fake leaks from coming! But how?”

Then he got an idea! An awful idea!
THE GRINCH GOT A WONDERFULLY AWFUL IDEA!
“I know just what to do!” The Grinch laughed in his throat.
And he broke out his laptop and started to gloat.

And he chuckled, and clucked, “What a great Grinchy trick!”
“With this promo poster I have, they’ll know it’s legit!”
“All I need is a platform…” The grinch searched around.
But since the fanbase is large, no new ones were found.

Did that stop the old Grinch? No! The Grinch simply yelled,
“If they can post on 4 chan, I’ll make one myself!”
So he took out a pan and took up a pad,
He wrote, and he wrote, the fans won’t be had!

Then he added some cuses and some deconfirms too,
“There’s no new playable Pokemon, oh no, boo hoo.”
Then the Grinch yelled “It’s done!” and so he clicked,
It was posted online, but soon he was ticked.

The board remained dark. Quiet posts filled the air.
All the fans disregarded his post without care.
He read the replies, of which their were few,
“This leak is fake! This guy has no clue!”

He stared at the screen, clenching his fist.
Translating from French to English was hardly a cinch.
He needed hard evidence, that much was clear.
But a photo? Too easily faked was his fear.

He thought and he thunk, about what he should do.
A video might cost him his job, that much was true.
“These characters,” he grinned, “the public must know!”
He knew it was time to put on a show.

He looked round the room, to make sure none could hear,
And he took out his phone, with much newfound cheer.
“And now!” grinned the Grinch “I’ll put them in a slum!”
He took out his phone, then took out his thumb.

He was swiping through apps, to decide what to use,
When he heard a loud sound, like the honk of a goose.
He turned around fast, and he saw the night-watchman,
It was Jack, oh how he hated this Scotsman.

The Grinch had been caught by this large man of honor,
Who’d seen the light left on, but the Grinch was no goner.
He stared at the Grinch and barked, “Oh Eric, why,”
“Why are you taking pics of this banner? WHY?”

But you know, that old Grinch was so smart and so slick,
He thought up a lie and he thought it up quick!
“Why my sweet old friend Jack,” the Grinchy Eric lied,
“There was a rip in this banner messing it up on one side!”

“So I was asked to stay late and fix it, my dear.”
“I’m texting the boss about the new one right here.”
And his fib fooled the watchman. Then the Grinch shook his head,
“You’re keeping me from my work,” he said.

And when Jack the Scotsman went away in a huff,
The Grinch took out his phone and loaded it up!
He lined up the evidence onto a desk,
Opened up snapchat, and thought of something grotesque.

He started recording the leak right there with his phone,
Writing “**** you Nintendo lolllll” now all would be known!
He sent it along waiting for a response,
Someone screen-grabbed his snap with no nonchalance.

It was a quarter past midnight, some fans still in beds,
With dreams of Shantae and Elma in heads.
The Grinch he just sat, he sat, and he waited.
Happy with the silence he will have created.

Safe and anonymous, thanks to snapchat,
He’d surely put an end to speculation chitchat.
“PoohPooh to the fans!” he was Grinchishly humming.
“They’re finding out now no more surprises are coming!”

“They’re just waking up! I know what they’ll do!”
“Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the fans down in Smashville will all cry boohoo!”
“That’s a noise,” Grinned the Grinch, “That I simply MUST hear!”
So he paused. And the Grinch refreshed pages with cheer.

And he did read some words, flooding into the site.
It started out light, then his eyes widened in fright.
The words aren’t sad! Why, they sounded merry!
It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY!

He stared down at Smashville and the Grinch popped his eyes!
To his core he was shook, he read a shocking surprise!
Every fan down in Smashville, both casual and hardcore,
Were cheering and cheering! With no surprises in store!

He hadn’t stopped leaks from coming, they came!
What’s worse, he found out, they'd discovered his name!
And the Grinch, with his grinch-ears ringing with dinging,
Stood puzzling, and puzzling, “To what are they clinging?”

“It came without Directs! Without trailer posts!
It came without Sakurai, Reggie, or treehouse live hosts!”
And he puzzled and puzzled, till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe hyping” he thought, “Doesn’t come from fake leaks.”
“Maybe hyping… perhaps… isn’t something so meek!”
And what happened then? Well in Smashville they say,
Smash Ultimate’s roster grew three sizes that day.

And the minute that Sakurai got word of the leak,
The cheers of his fans kept it from ruining his week.
The leaks they had come, but it hadn’t mattered.
The people were happy, and their hopes were untattered.

The trailers now could confirm restored hopes and new hype,
Hype that would keep ringing and dinging each night.
Who wrote this originally? It's beautiful. I found it in a YouTube comments' section a few hours ago. Did you?
 

drag0nscythe

Smash Master
Joined
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Messages
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So, if we assume the leak is true, we have a css looking something like

cssLeak1.png

and / or
cssLeak2.png

Could not get them to match with same number of columns. I still think collapsed is the proper way to see the css, so I am thinking that 14 per row is the way it will be.
 

Michael the Spikester

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Because I'm bored.

01: Mario
02: Donkey Kong
03: Link
04: Samus
04e: Dark Samus
05: Yoshi
06: Kirby
07: Fox
08: Pikachu
09: Luigi
10: Ness
11: Captain Falcon
12: Jigglypuff
13: Peach
13e: Daisy
14: Bowser
15: Ice Climbers
16: Sheik
17: Zelda
18: Dr. Mario
19: Pichu
20: Falco
21: Marth
21e: Lucina
22: Young Link
23: Ganondorf
24: Mewtwo
25: Roy
25e: Chrom
26: Mr. Game & Watch
27: Meta Knight
28: Pit
28e: Dark Pit
29: Zero Suit Samus
30: Wario
31: Snake
32: Ike
33-35: Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard)
36: Diddy Kong
37: Lucas
38: Sonic
38e: Shadow
39: King Dedede
40: Olimar
41: Lucario
42: R.O.B.
43: Toon Link
44: Wolf
45: Villager
46: Mega Man
47: Wii Fit Trainer
48: Rosalina & Luma
49: Little Mac
50: Greninja
51-53: Mii FIGHTER (Brawler, Gunner, Swordfighter)
54: Palutena
55: Pac-Man
56: Robin
57: Shulk
58: Bowser Jr.
59: Duck Hunt
60: Ryu
60e: Ken
61: Cloud
62: Corrin
63: Bayonetta
64: Inkling
65: Ridley
66: Simon
66e: Richter
67: King K. Rool
68: Isabelle
69: Mach Rider
70: Chorus Kids
71: Isaac
72: Geno
73: Banjo-Kazooie
 

Chrollo.

fka president wario
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Messages
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And then you take it even further with Koichi being older than Giorno.

Man, I love JoJo.
Koichi is the only one who looks their age in JoJo LOL
Jotaro is an absolute MACHINE so comparing him to other "regular" teenagers in media is kinda unfair
True, but even Giorno and Josuke look way older than they really are in the anime. In the Manga they look around their age but in the anime, I wouldn't eb able to tell they were High Schoolers if it wasn't for the school uniform on Josuke and them stating Giorno's age. They both look about 19-21 anime wise. Jotaro looks like a straight up grown ass man though.
 

SmashingXan2

Smash Journeyman
Joined
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Messages
361
So, I've kinda been out all day. Any new leaks? Anything new on the banner leak?
Any leaks disproven?

Also, we have lost another member. Hope whatever Alastor's dealing with get's better soon. He's left the site.
If you havent heard, we may have gotten Ultinate's ESRB leak from the Grinch
 

VGPhaze

Smash Apprentice
Joined
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Messages
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NNID
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This is good, but really really long.
It's the exact number of lines that the original story is from when the Grinch gets revealed... I didn't realize how long it was until I got pretty deep into it and just committed.
 

KMDP

Smash Legend
Joined
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Messages
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>teenagers
>portrayed as pretty short
I said "generally", Idon.

You can look at almost any show or cartoon and apparently 17-18 year old characters will be, like, a head shorter than their parents of the same sex.

Even though people make jokes about it, I'd say Jotaro is actually a more accurate portrayal of a teenager than most, in terms of height. He's a guy of European descent (who are much taller on average than Asians to begin with), and he happens to be about the same height as Joseph, maybe even taller, as he should be (children usually end up taller than their parents/grandparents, generally due to genetics and better nutrition).

Anyway, I'm going to bed for real this time.
 
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