Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Cutie Gwen]

Only reason people are jumping on Team Real is because it has the characters they want in it. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk

I'm not but I like her already

*flashbacks to people saying Bandana Dee as a Kirby echo makes perfect sense cause they guy who said it also said Banjo*
As if you needed to tell me

 

[mbvswb]

Wow, I think the most damning evidence for this is how it lines up with the CSS. 6x13 with the original roster (+Dark Samus) on top.

 

[Flarzo]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because they used their Banjo render.

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but the banjo render looks completely different?

 

[nintenplayer]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because they used their Banjo render.

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His hand isn't over his head like the original render tho

 

[PhilosophicAnimal]

Only reason people are jumping on Team Real is because it has the characters they want in it. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk

I'm not but I like her already

If that were true, I'd have believed every text leak since ever, because Geno is in all of them. And he's pretty much the only character on here I truly want. I love Rhythm Heaven, and I'd be happy for the fans of the others, but in general, only one of my most wanted is here. And I don't give a hoot about Mach or Shadow at all.

What is convincing me is all the weirdness about the real life materials involved. The banners, the Grinch, the empty mural, the LinkedIn stuff...and I'm aware this can all be faked, but not one leaker has come close to doing this much work.

It just seems like more effort than is necessary for a leak. We've been fooled by plenty of other fakes with way less effort. Why go this far? Why cover so many bases?

 

[Jetsurge]

Uh, isn't Banjo's render straight from Smashified?

No it's a completely different render. Look closer. Smashified Banjo was not flying.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I edited it!

An interesting comment I found beneath the Tweet

I’m more curious as to where the Miis went. Brawler & Gunner are literally gone

— SuperMarioT (@SuperMarioT_YT) October 24, 2018

 

[N3ON]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because the leaker used their Banjo render.

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All due respect to Chris, but you can see multiple differences even with the picture being as blurry as it is.

 

[Ring-a-Sheep]

Real or fake, this "leak" has been fun, and got us away from the 800th box discussion

 

[TreeBranch]

I'm sticking to team fake as of now. The missing shadows are weird, and the name being visible was probably intentional.
The banjo render could've been heavily edited I suppose, but it just looks like he's facing left and nothing more

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

it looks closer to that other fan art. Don't know why he's claiming that.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Gematsu

Chorus Kids and Chrom

Oh yeah, Chrom I can give. But Sakurai never mentioned Chorus Kids, per say. Probably best thing to go off that they were planned was the inclusion of RH-trophies + Sneaky Spirit being as a rare enemy in Smash Run. Still, I rather hear more concrete words on that from Sakurai himself on cut characters...

But still, I kind of would find pretty illogical that Dixie wouldn't be allowed back, since what happened to Chrom doesn't really apply to her (being too unoriginal in face of other newcomer suggestion, nor be a strong DLC-candidate.)

 

[N3ON]

An interesting comment I found beneath the Tweet

I’m more curious as to where the Miis went. Brawler & Gunner are literally gone

— SuperMarioT (@SuperMarioT_YT) October 24, 2018

They're between Mewtwo and K. Rool.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because the leaker used their Banjo render.

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They don’t even look the same at all...

 

[Lyndis_]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because the leaker used their Banjo render.

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I don't see it. Those look completely different. The proportions aren't similar anywhere and Kazooie's pose is straight up not the same at all.

Even the backpack straps aren't coming down on his arms the same way. It's not the same render.

 

[Pyra]

I don't think the Banjo renders look similar at all besides the direction they're facing.
I'll be back in a bit, maybe less of a debunk struggle by then.

 

[PLATINUM7]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because the leaker used their Banjo render.

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I guess but they completely changed Kazooie, the bag's position, the top of Banjo's head, the size of his nose and position of his arms and legs.

 

[xjthegulpin]

I was wondering why there were four chorus kids in the picture but I took a close look and it’s the damn CONDUCTOR! That’s such a weird small detail!

 

[dezeray112]

Wait so we all believe it's real?

Whilst, I do like the leak roster, I can't say for certain about its legitimacy which is why I'm taking it with a grain of salt for now.

 

[Metal Shop X]

An interesting comment I found beneath the Tweet

I’m more curious as to where the Miis went. Brawler & Gunner are literally gone

— SuperMarioT (@SuperMarioT_YT) October 24, 2018

Gunner & Brawler are King.K.Rool upper left.

 

[MainJPW]

One of the Smashified guys said it is fake because the leaker used their Banjo render.

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I love how he says it’s literally his render... when it literally isn’t.

 

[Chandeelure]

Yeah, looks different to me, but Idk, I'm not a graphic designer.
Also, the Smashified account retweeted that, so maybe the others members also think it's fake.

Or maybe the same guy retweeted his own post lol.

 

[Chrollo.]

It’s gonna be hilarious if this leak turns out real. The Smashified guys will probably try to say Nintendo stole their render lol.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I want this to be real not because it's more than enough, just for the final roster fully leaked within such gross words. I'm a simple man and it makes me laugh.

The guy who put the ESRB leak up went by ************ leaker, so there's a precedent

edit: forgot about the swear filter... well, I'm sure you can look it up.

 

[CrunchyCHEEZIT]

The Mii's were positioned to be next to each other, near Mewtwo.
That's pretty interesting.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I was wondering why there were four chorus kids in the picture but I took a close look and it’s the damn CONDUCTOR! That’s such a weird small detail!

Oh my goodness, what If he was like the Pokemon Trainer and walked in the background?

 

[Gothitelle]

This is what I'm referring to. Note how it lines up with the ground.

With all the shadow talk, I want to bring this back to see if anyone has proof that this is how it should be.

 

[CosmicQuark]

An interesting comment I found beneath the Tweet

I’m more curious as to where the Miis went. Brawler & Gunner are literally gone

— SuperMarioT (@SuperMarioT_YT) October 24, 2018

They were moved to the right of Mewtwo to make room for Shadow--all three together, which makes sense. Moving all of the characters around (much more than a single Daisy) means if it's fake this took a lot of effort.

 

[Deleted member]

An interesting comment I found beneath the Tweet

I’m more curious as to where the Miis went. Brawler & Gunner are literally gone

— SuperMarioT (@SuperMarioT_YT) October 24, 2018

I mentioned that earlier; all three were missing, but then someone replied and showed a cropped pic of where they where. They were all grouped together now elsewhere. Look where Luigi should be on the blurred render; he's been shifted to the right (half of him is in the crease; obscured) and in his old spot are the three Miis grouped together.

 

[Deleted member]

Fake or not, i would like this for the base roster, and maybe for the final one.

Too bad about Match Rider doh, he could have been a great surprise.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Biggest thing I can think going against this now beyond being 7 more characters are the shadows. Did any shadows move/fail to move after the August Direct?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I think we got our Gen 8 rep

BTW

 

[Iko MattOrr]

Wait so we all believe it's real?

I don't.
I think this is one of the fakest leaks I ever seen, and I'm surprised that people are believing this.
Not just that, it also includes the usual fake leak characters that every text leak also includes (minus Dixie), and it's the most blurry leak so far.
It's fake, if even Sassy Geno was fake and it looked so real, this is probably fake too.

I never understood why people say that the Chorus Kids were hinted in the files of Smash 4... as far as I know there was data of a Rhythm Heaved fighter logo or something like that, but it was never specifically a hint at the Chorus Kids, it could have been anyone, or even the logo used for different stuff such as a stage or what not.
For what I know, people assumed that they were the Chorus Kids only because of Gematsu. But maybe there is something that I don't know.
I honestly think that the Chorus Kids were never planned for Smash and that they are very unlikely, and the fact that this leak includes them is (at least for me) another hint that it's probably fake.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

His hand isn't over his head like the original render tho

Plus kazooie doing an entirely different pose than the smashified render

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So, uh...

I guess someone got the Smash Bros Switch early. pic.twitter.com/uI0dJCCYL1

— Spawn Wave (@SpawnWaveMedia) October 24, 2018

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I bet Sakurai made sure Pit and Kirby were next to each other cause they his babies, while Mario and Pikachu being in the same column reminds me of how their series are the big two of Nintendo

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Wait so we all believe it's real?

Well it's got an actual French Guy's butt on the line so either he wants to be fired or this is a disgruntled co-worker getting info out, sticking his name on it and getting Nintendo and Square Enix's Lawyers to tear him apart.

 

[-crump-]

The only, ONLY way I see this playing out is if we get a general Direct in the first week of November, it ends with a character reveal, and announces a new Smash Direct coming soon.
It’s a nice design, it’s a great roster, all the choices make sense... but I still don’t beleive it. It’s just too much in too little time. We’ll see.

 

[Deleted member]

The moment they reveal a newcomer, and its look in the art matches the leak, we will know that it is legit.

 

[PLATINUM7]

I think we got our Gen 8 rep

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BTW

One leak at a time pls

 

[ItsZant]

what's the consensus here? Real?