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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Tree Gelbman

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Anytime we play ''Remove this and add this instead" games I'm always thankful no one here is game developers.
 

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Oh yeah, people love her games.

But in Smash? . . . It's, uh, a different story.
Sometimes, I look at her and think of :jigglypuffmelee:, just because of both of their crazy offstage abilities, recovery, and hate. I guess one may be more "broken" than the other, but I see similarities (not everywhere, though).
 

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Remove : :ultpacman:

Add: :4pacman:

I miss 4 Pac :c I'm still reeling from the footage where Ultimate Pac was nerfed
 
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LeakyPandy said that a game with controversies surrounding it (which is why people assume Dragon Quest combined with its Nintendo-relations) would be nominated at the Video Game Awards, but that they were unsure it would win due to the controversies (not LeakyPandy, Nintendo and Square Enix or whoever, LP just said "they"), however a character would be announced for DLC.

Due to how they would be unsure if it would win, it sounds pretty dumb to plan a DLC announcement there imo. If LP actually has sources, they need to stop trusting every person they come across who claims to have information :p
Leaky pandy said Isle Delfino would be in Odyssey by now. If were gonna take leaky pandy at their word other than someone trying to get attention off of loz18 of all people..
 

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Anytime we play ''Remove this and add this instead" games I'm always thankful no one here is game developers.
It was always cringe-inducing on the Bioware Social Network when people would **** on a game in a thread in which one of the developers was actively participating.

No wonder they chose to shut it down.
 

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Smash Game: Remove one, add another.

I'll start.

Remove: :ultdarkpit:

Add: Dillon

Extra points for controversial.
Remove: :ultdoc:
Add: Lloyd

Remove::ultpokemontrainer:
Add: Hoen Pokemon Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle, and Blaziken

Remove::ultrob:
Add: Elma

Remove: :ultpit:
Add: Isaac

Remove: :ultmiifighters:
Add: Mythra

Controversial Time I suppose 0.0

Remove::ultfalco:
Add: Haar from Fire Emblem

Remove::ultfox:
Add: Magalor

Remove::ultwario:
Add: Ninten

and finally....

Remove: :ultfalcon:
Add: Guy Cecill from Tales of the Abyss
 

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That would be amazing. Not holding out hope though. But if ATs get upgraded for DLC I’m rooting for her (along with Ashley and Wah)
Now that I have Daisy, Midna is my most desired character. I'm with you.

But the joke was that it's another Link.
 

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Remove: :ultdoc:
Add: Lloyd

Remove::ultpokemontrainer:
Add: Hoen Pokemon Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle, and Blaziken

Remove::ultrob:
Add: Elma

Remove: :ultpit:
Add: Isaac

Remove: :ultmiifighters:
Add: Mythra

Controversial Time I suppose 0.0

Remove::ultfalco:
Add: Haar from Fire Emblem

Remove::ultfox:
Add: Magalor

Remove::ultwario:
Add: Ninten

and finally....

Remove: :ultfalcon:
Add: Guy Cecill from Tales of the Abyss
ALRIGHT BOYS TIME WE CLOSE THIS GAME UP
 

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Cut: Half the roster
Add: Newcomers.

Smash is like most games. Too many characters, not enough resources to go around.
And when we faced clones, I offered a solution

Cutting.

They called me a mad man. And what I predicted came to pass.
 

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Best case idea I can think of is a trailer that drops hints at MULTIPLE characters to sell a season pass with an Echo as day 1 DLC for those who buy in.

Octoling? Hilda? (may be why Zelda has no Hilda alt) Dry Bowser? Big Boss?
An echo suggestion is alright, though still makes you wonder why they would be DLC and not in the base game, which is the main problem with day 1 DLC. Trailer hint at a season pass is interesting--could be something like how Zelda's DLC was announced. Still, the way the rumors make it sound, it sounds like something concrete, like a character, would be announced.

People often forget that Mewtwo was announced to be DLC a month and a half before Smash for Wii U was released. The game hadn't even gone gold yet.

"Day 1 DLC" isn't the same as working on DLC before the game ships. When a game enters the home stretch, there are multiple workers without a job left to do because their work is finished. You either lay off those employees, move them to another studio, or have them work on DLC. It's quite common for developers to go the DLC route these days; it's not always for money-grubbing purposes. Just an appropriate use of resources.

That said, from a marketing standpoint, announcing new DLC on the day of release in Japan isn't a good move. I don't think the announcement will be Smash related, personally.
I could see DLC being talked about a month in advance like last time--my issue was with it being the day before/day of... it's a bit weird. Which is why I struggle to think of something Smash related to be announced the day prior.
 

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Okay, I'm bored again, so I'll give a task/challenge for imagination.

Try to give every playable character a team partner (can only have 1), but it has to make sense (characters should fit well together). Or just come up with just some if it's that hard.
 
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I hope that they do add more Street Fighter 3 music. Primarily from Third Strike's OST. Chun-Li, Elena, Akuma, Dudley, Makoto, Ken/Alex, Ibuki, Ryu's themes are all great. Q's too. Some of the 2nd Impact songs are cool too.
 

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Okay, I'm bored again, so I'll give a task/challenge for imagination.

Try to give every playable character a team partner (can only have 1), but it has to make sense (characters should fit well together). Or just come up with just some if it's that hard.
I only need one

:ultyoshi::ultkirby:

Not hard to guess what the connection is...
 

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Remove : :ultpacman:

Add: :4pacman:

I miss 4 Pac :c I'm still reeling from the footage where Ultimate Pac was nerfed
His fire hydrant does conk :ultbayonetta: on the head pretty nicely now, at least.

Better idea: Cut

Add


If you're gonna get rid of Princess Azalea, at least replace her with Daisy instead of fit Azalea.
Plum when? There needs to be golf club dueling.
 

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Okay, I'm bored again, so I'll give a task/challenge for imagination.

Try to give every playable character a team partner (can only have 1), but it has to make sense (characters should fit well together). Or just come up with just some if it's that hard.
I would go with Mario For Sonic.
 
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Okay, I'm bored again, so I'll give a task/challenge for imagination.

Try to give every playable character a team partner (can only have 1), but it has to make sense. Or just come up with just some if it's that hard.
:ultfalcon::ultsamus:/:ultzss: - Bounty hunters
:ultduckhunt:/:ultness: - Pet & Owner
:ultike::ultshulk: - God killers
:ultkrool::ultridley: - Big pirates
:ultlittlemac::ultwiifittrainer: - Fitness
:ultlucas::ultrosalina: - Son & Mother
:ultryu::ultlucario: - Trainer & Companion
 
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We should be getting information sometime around the end of the month or early November. Has to be before November 7th.

So, sometime in the next 20 or so days. removing weekends, in the next 16 or so days, we have to be getting a direct.

Last month is critical month. They will not let it wait.
 

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We should be getting information sometime around the end of the month or early November. Has to be before November 7th.

So, sometime in the next 20 or so days. removing weekends, in the next 16 or so days, we have to be getting a direct.

Last month is critical month. They will not let it wait.
While I agree it'll be before November 7th, nothing says it's required to be before the 7th. It's incredibly likely though, yes.
 

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You just had to ask for it you troglodyte, you've damned this page and smash.
This isn't a game anymore.

Cut: :ultinkling::ultridley::ultdaisy::ultmario::ultlink::ulticeclimbers::ultcorrin::ultsnake::ultdk::ultsonic::ultfalco::ultyounglink::ultpokemontrainer::ultmarth::ultkirby::ultmegaman::ultpit::ultpichu::ultbowserjr::ultmiifighters::ultrob::ultfalcon::ultjigglypuff::ultwario::ultsamus::ultsimon::ultkrool::ultrichter::ultchrom::ultdarksamus::ultvillager::ultdarkpit::ultduckhunt::ultness::ultpeach::ultwolf::ultike::ultkingdedede::ultbowser::ulttoonlink::ultryu::ultisabelle::ultganondorf::ultpikachu::ultlucina::ultlucario::ultsheik::ultfox::ultwiifittrainer::ultdoc::ultgreninja::ultshulk::ultyoshi::ultchrom::ultinkling::ultpacman::ultsamus::ultdoc::ultzss::ultlucas::ultcorrin::ultmetaknight::ultroy::ultpit::ultpalutena::ultryu::ultmewtwo::ultdiddy::ultrosalina::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultbowserjr::ultsheik::ultganondorf::ultlucina::ultgnw::ultolimar::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer::ultbayonetta:

Add: Waluigi to every empty slot.
you caused this and everyone hates you.
Aw. You cut Lucina twice.

That's just unnecessarily hurtful.
 

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We should be getting information sometime around the end of the month or early November. Has to be before November 7th.

So, sometime in the next 20 or so days. removing weekends, in the next 16 or so days, we have to be getting a direct.

Last month is critical month. They will not let it wait.
I dunno why it 'has' to be before November 7th.

Yeah, that's a month until the game launches, but if they're waiting until November for the final direct, we can throw the "Advertising Let's Go" argument straight in the trash.
 

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While I agree it'll be before November 7th, nothing says it's required to be before the 7th. It's incredibly likely though, yes.
I'm sticking to my guns on that November 7th prediction.

On the day. Take it to the bank and smoke it or however that phrase goes.
 

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Remove: everyone
Add: everyone

It's Everyone Is Here for a reason.

I could certainly see Ultimate newbies I would cut... but despite some moments of weaknesses, I try not to go out of my way to **** on people's favorite characters (though will offer my honest opinions when prompted). I just want my Banjo. :scared:
 

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We should be getting information sometime around the end of the month or early November. Has to be before November 7th.

So, sometime in the next 20 or so days. removing weekends, in the next 16 or so days, we have to be getting a direct.

Last month is critical month. They will not let it wait.
While I agree it'll be before November 7th, nothing says it's required to be before the 7th. It's incredibly likely though, yes.
And then the day after, :ultluigi:finally gets his blog post, since his LM 3DS game arrives in Japan.
 

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I dunno why it 'has' to be before November 7th.

Yeah, that's a month until the game launches, but if they're waiting until November for the final direct, we can throw the "Advertising Let's Go" argument straight in the trash.
That is one of the reasons why I think it will be early November. Wii U was fully set a month in advance. This has been a faster news cycle.
Mainly I think it will be before the 7th because Sakurai hates leaks, and once review copies start going out, it is over for holding the cat in the bag.
 

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Remove: everyone
Add: everyone

It's Everyone Is Here for a reason.

I could certainly see Ultimate newbies I would cut... but despite some moments of weaknesses, I try not to go out of my way to **** on people's favorite characters (though will offer my honest opinions when prompted). I just want my Banjo. :scared:
Hoy ease up.
It's a dumb forum game.
 

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Remove: :ultdoc:
Add: Lloyd

Remove::ultpokemontrainer:
Add: Hoen Pokemon Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle, and Blaziken

Remove::ultrob:
Add: Elma

Remove: :ultpit:
Add: Isaac

Remove: :ultmiifighters:
Add: Mythra

Controversial Time I suppose 0.0

Remove::ultfalco:
Add: Haar from Fire Emblem

Remove::ultfox:
Add: Magalor

Remove::ultwario:
Add: Ninten

and finally....

Remove: :ultfalcon:
Add: Guy Cecill from Tales of the Abyss
By controversial you mean literally awful.
 

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Man, remember when everyone got the idea that Incineroar 100% was going to be revealed at the end of a "Pokemon direct" for some reason? That was weird.
 
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You just had to ask for it you troglodyte, you've damned this page and smash.
This isn't a game anymore.

Cut: :ultinkling::ultridley::ultdaisy::ultmario::ultlink::ulticeclimbers::ultcorrin::ultsnake::ultdk::ultsonic::ultfalco::ultyounglink::ultpokemontrainer::ultmarth::ultkirby::ultmegaman::ultpit::ultpichu::ultbowserjr::ultmiifighters::ultrob::ultfalcon::ultjigglypuff::ultwario::ultsamus::ultsimon::ultkrool::ultrichter::ultchrom::ultdarksamus::ultvillager::ultdarkpit::ultduckhunt::ultness::ultpeach::ultwolf::ultike::ultkingdedede::ultbowser::ulttoonlink::ultryu::ultisabelle::ultganondorf::ultpikachu::ultlucina::ultlucario::ultsheik::ultfox::ultwiifittrainer::ultdoc::ultgreninja::ultshulk::ultyoshi::ultchrom::ultinkling::ultpacman::ultsamus::ultdoc::ultzss::ultlucas::ultcorrin::ultmetaknight::ultroy::ultpit::ultpalutena::ultryu::ultmewtwo::ultdiddy::ultrosalina::ultluigi::ultpeach::ultbowserjr::ultsheik::ultganondorf::ultlucina::ultgnw::ultolimar::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer::ultbayonetta:

Add: Waluigi to every empty slot.
you caused this and everyone hates you.
I see you cut Chrom twice. Good. The double cut cancels the cut out. :p
 
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