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[PsychoIncarnate]

Or Metal Greymon if they want to go with the OG classic badboi.
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MetalGreymon is my favorite Digimon.

He's the best

 

[Zinith]

- Giga Boshi

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Bandana Dee if anything I think would have the Megaton Punch as his Final Smash.

 

[HyruleHero]

I think WarGreymon makes more sense being its Agumon's most powerful digi-form.

but wargreymon requires a new model whereas metal greymon only needs wings.
I think skull greymons a better final smash because at the forms of agumon, greymon and metalgreymon they can all digivolve into skullgreymon. this allows a digievolution gimick to make sense for when the final smash is obtained.

 

[Chumpodile]

the one time we actually talk about agumon Graizen is MIA

 

[AugustusB]

I wanted to post this up a while ago but never got the chance to because of reasons.

I’ve been thinking a lot about Final Smashes and potential ones for upcoming potential newcomers. What Final Smashes do you think these characters may have? This also includes potential Echoes and thier either Echofied FS (Dark samus) or unique ones (Chrom).

Skull Kid
Impa
Dixie Kong
Geno
Isaac
Incinceror
Dedidueye
Bandana Dee
Black Shadow
Black Knight
Medusa
Mach Rider
Mike Jones
Ayumi Tachibana
Rhythm Heaven character
Elma
Rex and Pyra
Springman
Fatal Frame character
Agnes Oblige
Sora
Ken
Dante
Lloyd Irving
Heihachi
Agumon
Shadow the Hedgehog
Doctor Eggman
Banjo-Kazooie
Steve?
Master Chief
Ray Man
Assassin’s Creed character
Dragonborn
Pip-Boy
Doomslayer
Son Goku

Skull Kid: Transforms into Majora's Wrath, lashes at opponents THEN drops the moon on them.
Geno: Geno's Grand Finale - A combination of Blast and Flash.
Shadow the Hedgehog: Chaos Control and Super Shadow. Same as Sonic's, but time is slower for the opponents.
Banjo & Kazooie: The Mighty Jinjonator. Summon cinematic where they beak bash foes while Jinjonator is being summoned to finish them off.

 

[Fenriraga]

Bandana Dee if anything I think would have the Megaton Punch as his Final Smash.

Oh my God, now I just imagine Dee throwing them on to the bricks, slamming down on it and absolutely demolishing the fighter's back/spine, with the Mortal Combat-esque zoom in showing the bones break and everything.

I want it.

 

[Koopaul]

I'd like Banjo's Final Smash to be Mumbo changing him into something like the T-Rex so that we can have Mumbo also in Smash.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I'd like Banjo's Final Smash to be Mumbo changing him into something like the T-Rex so that we can have Mumbo also in Smash.

He could be an assist trophy.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

The ones I know enough to think of something:

-Isaac - Judgement: The angelic knight appears on top middle of the stage, and releases an attack that, on collision to the ground, makes a powerful wave to both sides of the stage.

-Decidueye - Sinister Arrow Raid: Decidueye's Z-Move is honestly a perfect Final Smash. Make him catch his opponents like Meta Knight does, and then the cutscene of the Z-Move plays.

-Bandana Dee - Dee Army: A cinematic Final Smash with the many variations of the Waddle Dees doing attacks, finishing with a final stab of Bandana Dee.

-Black Knight - Eclipse: Black Knight catches opponents surrounding him, and performs the opposite of a Great Aether. He attacks all of his opponents on the spot, and only has 5, very powerful hits, finishing with a powerful wave from Alondite.

-Rex and Pyra - Drive and Blade: A cutscene FS where Pyra and Rex use Flame Sword together, to finish up with -SPOILERS FOR XENOBLADE 2- Pyra transforming into Mythra, and using Sacred Arrows to finish things up.

-Ken - Master of the Dragon Punch: A close range Final Smash that would consist of him performing a Shoryureppa, to finish off things with a Shinryuken. It would be stronger than Ryu's Shin Shoryuken, but he wouldn't have access to Shinkou Hadouken.

-Lloyd - Falcon's Crest: Whoever is close to Lloyd when this Final Smash triggers will instantly get pulled to it. Lloyd channels energy into his sword, damaging his opponents. He then raises up in the air, and smashes his opponents, sending them far away.

I could probably do more but I'm a bit tired at the moment

If you asked me, I feel that Sakurai is more likely to use

Spoiler

Pneuma

as the final smash for Rex. Man doesn't give a crap about spoilers, so...

 

[Zinith]

Oh my God, now I just imagine Dee throwing them on to the bricks, slamming down on it and absolutely demolishing the fighter's back/spine, with the Mortal Combat-esque zoom in showing the bones break and everything.

I want it.

Bandana Dee getting that Final Smash will upstage Kirby's own FS...

Spoiler

Therefore he should have it

 

[Danpal65]

If you asked me, I feel that Sakurai is more likely to use

Spoiler

Pneuma

as the final smash. Man doesn't give a crap about spoilers, so...

Spoiler: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Spoilers!

I feel like Pneuma would only be used if both Pyra and Mythra are a part of Rex's move set. Being their true form it would seem weird if it were just Pyra. If Rex has both Pyra and Mythra I'd totally agree with you.

On one hand I enjoy seeing spoiler characters in Smash if I've completed the game because they're always cool, but on the other it can really ruin it for some people. I honestly don't know how I avoided spoilers about 7 before playing Xenoblade Chronicles having collected all the trophies in Sm4sh.

 

[Idon]

If you asked me, I feel that Sakurai is more likely to use

Spoiler

Pneuma

as the final smash for Rex. Man doesn't give a crap about spoilers, so...

Well there's got to be a reason he doesn't use

Spoiler

Monado III

for Shulk

 

[CosmicQuark]

I'd like Banjo's Final Smash to be Mumbo changing him into something like the T-Rex so that we can have Mumbo also in Smash.

I like Mumbo Jumbo as an assist trophy--changes your opponent temporarily into a washing machine that you can beat up.

(alternatively, Banjo & Kazooie are turned into a T-Rex)

 

[Noipoi]

If you asked me, I feel that Sakurai is more likely to use

Spoiler

Pneuma

as the final smash for Rex. Man doesn't give a crap about spoilers, so...

I read that as pneumonia, and I got even more confused about Xenoblade for a second.

 

[Arcanir]

On the MetalGreymon vs. Wargreymon debate, unless it comes down to ease of asset use (which I'm not sure would be that much of an issue, especially if it's just for an Final Smash) the latter has a huge edge over the former.

Ever since Wargreymon's appearance in the Adventure anime, it's not only usurped MetalGreymon as the most prominent Agumon form, it's probably one of the most widely used and known form for the Agumon line and serves as his ultimate evolution in every major showcase of the line. When Agumon cameo'd in Appmon, Wargreymon took precedence over Greymon and MetalGreymon, when it comes to figurines and merchandise, Wargreymon has had a huge presence with examples like D-Arts, with the card games, he's had multiple across its many iterations, and so on and so forth. Similarly, like Agumon, he's had multiple variations and expies across the franchises with examples like Gaioumon, ShineGreymon, and BlackWarGreymon all drawing from him, which showcases how prominent he's been in the franchise.

Really, the only higher level Agumon form that I'd say beats out WarGreymon would be Omnimon as he's been an even bigger presence in the franchise thanks to his iconic scene in the movie and use across its history since.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

Well there's got to be a reason he doesn't use

Spoiler

Monado III

for Shulk

But Mecha Fiora in the FS is alright, I guess

-Sakurai logic

 

[KingofKoopas]

Skull Kid- Moon Crash or Majoras Wrath
Impa - Would probably be
Dixie Kong- Same as Diddys i guess, or DK's Old FS but with her Guitar
Geno - Geno Flash or Geno Whirl
Isaac- Still need to actually play golden sun
Incinceror- Moonsault
Dedidueye - Sinister Air Raid
Bandana Dee - Megaton Punch
Black Shadow - Black Bull
Black Knight - Can he do Great Aether too?
Medusa - dont recall her attacks from Uprising as a boss fight but she could turn giant, or she could have an instant kill where she turns opponents to stone and then smashes them (like the mythological medusa)
Mach Rider - No clue
Mike Jones - never played
Ayumi Tachibana - Never Played
Rhythm Heaven character - Remix
Elma - Doesnt she have a form thats spoilerific?
Rex and Pyra - I know this but it'd be spoilers so anyone whos played xenoblade 2 would know what im talking about
Springman - Whatever that thing is from Arms where they fire off a bunch of punches
Fatal Frame character - Never Played Fatal Frame
Agnes Oblige - Never played Bravely Default
Sora - That thing from KH2 with both the limit break forms whatever that was called
Ken - I know hes got an exclusive ultra combo of Tatsumaki hes famous for
Dante- Devil Trigger
Lloyd Irving - Never played tales wouldnt know
Heihachi - IF he was his son or Grandson Devil, he isnt so IDK maybe the rocket from his ending of tekken 5, or he puts on his speedo from Lee's Ending from the same game.
Agumon - Digivolve to WarGreymon (assuming digivoliton is part of its moveset lock it to only as far as Metal Greymon with this as final smash)
Shadow the Hedgehog - Super Shadow plus Chaos Control
Doctor Eggman - Death Egg Robo
Banjo-Kazooie - Cant think of one
Steve? - uhhh griefer spam?
Master Chief - I guess call in a Warthog. Or a Chupathingy
Ray Man - Only played the first one on ps1, and even then never finished it
Assassin’s Creed character - Can only speak for Ezio or Altiar, the Apple of Eden.
Dragonborn - Fusrodah
Pip-Boy - Drops a Nuke or Power Armor
Doomslayer- BFG9000
Son Goku - Not even gonna Qualify this one, It Aint Happening... (Dragon Fist)


And i figured all this out while AT&T had my internet down. Really need to Rename their comapany to AS&... family site...

 

[osby]

But Mecha Fiora in the FS is alright, I guess

-Sakurai logic

It's been almost 10 years since the first game.

 

[Danpal65]

But Mecha Fiora in the FS is alright, I guess

-Sakurai logic

Even though it doesn't make sense for chain attacks like that and Reyn totally should have replaced Riki since he's an Assist it's a hype inclusion to have her there for Shulk.

Appropriate that my 1000th post is about Xenoblade.

 

[Idon]

It's been almost 10 years since the first game.

Yeah, so they'd spoil Mecha Fiora, but not Shulk's ultimate final attack for the move that's supposed to be Shulk's ultimate final attack.

 

[Jetsurge]

I'd like Banjo's Final Smash to be Mumbo changing him into something like the T-Rex so that we can have Mumbo also in Smash.

JINJO!

Mumbo should be the assist trophy.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

and Reyn totally should have replaced Riki since he's an Assist

This, this, and this. I like your thinking.

 

[Zinith]

Man, with how my boi has been kinda left in the dark this entire cycle, he BETTER have a hype moveset/Final Smash that warrants the absence

 

[Jetsurge]

It's been almost 10 years since the first game.

Ouch, now I feel old.

 

[NineS]

Man, with how my boi has been kinda left in the dark this entire cycle, he BETTER have a hype moveset/Final Smash that warrants the absence

What are your thoughts on the alt?

Forgot to ask.

 

[Idon]

What are your thoughts on the alt?

Forgot to ask.

IMAGE...

TOO...

HIGH DEFINITION...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

 

[Jetsurge]

Man, with how my boi has been kinda left in the dark this entire cycle, he BETTER have a hype moveset/Final Smash that warrants the absence

His new final Smash is him transforming into Fat Yoshi and squashing his opponents

 

[osby]

Even though it doesn't make sense for chain attacks like that and Reyn totally should have replaced Riki since he's an Assist it's a hype inclusion to have her there for Shulk.

Appropriate that my 1000th post is about Xenoblade.

Just my guess but I think he's in the Final Smash because they already have a model of him from the Assist Trophy.

 

[Zinith]

What are your thoughts on the alt?

Forgot to ask.

I like it, though I'm confused why they have that publically available in archives but there's been no formal announcement....

 

[KMDP]

Agumon's Final Smash that'd make the most sense is WarGreymon honestly.

Or Metal Greymon if they want to go with the OG classic badboi.
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Or they could go all-out and give him Omegamon.

(Yes, I call this form "Omegamon" and not "Omnimon", I prefer the original name because it makes it's ties to Alphamon more apparent)

 

[Danpal65]

Just my guess but I think he's in the Final Smash because they already have a model of him from the Assist Trophy.

Yeah it makes sense, just would be cool if Reyn, Shulk's childhood best friend and major character in the game, actually got a chance in the spotlight. I mean Shulk stole all of his lines it's the least he could do.

 

[Zinith]

His new final Smash is him transforming into Fat Yoshi and squashing his opponents

I'd take that as well

 

[Shroob]

His new final Smash is him transforming into Fat Yoshi and squashing his opponents

This is the setup to an awful Deviantart picture....

 

[Zinith]

This is the setup to an awful Deviantart picture....

To be fair, ANYTHING Yoshi does is a setup for an awful Deviantart pic

 

[NineS]

This is the setup to an awful Deviantart picture....

Ssh, don't mention it! You don't want to give them any ideas!

It's bad enough already on there! So many things I can never unsee...

 

[KMDP]

the one time we actually talk about agumon Graizen is MIA

...I almost missed a conversation about Agumon because I was too busy playing New Mystery of the Emblem.

Shame on me!
(By the way, "Tearing Shadows" is awesome and should be included in Smash Bros.)

 

[osby]

Yeah it makes sense, just would be cool if Reyn, Shulk's childhood best friend and major character in the game, actually got a chance in the spotlight. I mean Shulk stole all of his lines it's the least he could do.

To be honest, that was the localization team's doing.

 

[NineS]

...I almost missed a conversation about Agumon because I was too busy playing New Mystery of the Emblem.

Shame on me!
(By the way, "Tearing Shadows" is awesome and should be included in Smash Bros.)

This game doesn't have enough Marths.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

What are your thoughts on the alt?

Forgot to ask.

We need more character alts